Most other
database environments will do this automatically.
Actually, I don't know any that do that. In fact, it was not that long ago
that even sql server allowed multi-able queries that were updatable.
virtually all sql engines allow you to join in many tables together...but
the number that allowed those tables to be updated is much less. And even
less so is engines that add the child record for you and setup the foreign
key
It turns out that you can get ms-access to do this (and, I think it was one
the first products to do this). However, you MUST force a disk write on the
parent record first to generate the pk. Then, the child record can be
edited..and the FK (foreign key) will be correctly set/added by ms-access if
no child record yet exits. You also MUST use a left join (but, as I explain
below...90%+ of my sql quires are left join anyway...
So, likely you will have to use a continues form in place of a
datasheet..since you want code to "fire" to write the current record to
write to disk....
And...here is a blurb on left joins....
A left join means that a query will return the "parent" records when the
child table HAS NO correspond record.
To make a left join, you drop in the tables (in the query builder, or the
relationship designer), and draw the join line to the appropriate filed
between each table. You then double click on the join line. You then click
on the join type button
You get three options:
Only include rows where the joined fields from both tables are equal
(this standard default inner join)
Include ALL records from "Customers" and only those records from
"Invoices" where the joined fields are equal
(this is our left join. So, our main table Customers will be returned in
this query, REGARDLESS if the child records (invoices in this example)
exist, or not!. This is left join
Include ALL records from "Invoices" and only those records from
"Customers" where the joined fields are equal
This sis obviously a right join....
For forms, and sub-forms, and related tables, left joins are quite
important.
If you look at the following screen shot, you can see that most relations
ships are this left join, and RI is enforced.
http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKallal/Articles/PickSql/Appendex2.html
tblBgroup (booking group) for example may, or may not have payments made
(tblPayments). Thus, you can add a booking group, and NOT have to add child
records. However, full RI is enforced, and you can see the side ways 8
"omega" sign AND THE ARROW HEAD. The simple lookup fields are simply just a
arrow drawn, and no "1", or omega sign exists (tblPayments to tblHowpaid for
example is a simple lookup). It is GREAT that I can look at the ER diagram,
and instantly know if child records are required, or they are not!!
The tables that MUST have a child records can also clearly be seen. If you
go from the tblBgroup to the its parent table, you will see table
tblBooking. You can easily see that there is a 1 to many here also, but NO
ARROW head exists. Thus, when I create a booking, my designs will ALWAYS
ASSUME that a child records in tblBgroup (booking group) will exist (ie: I
must code, and assume that when I add a tblBooking records, my code also
assumes that a tblBGroup will also have to be added). In plain English this
means that when I make a booking (reservation), my code assumes that
you MUST have people in that booking. However, I most certainly allow
people to be booked, but not yet have made any payments. So, your
relationship(s) if done right should reflect the rules you as a developer
want to maintain. I should point out that a left join, or a standard
(inner join) both allow child records to NOT exist, but you still
should correctly set this relationship, since when it comes to making
reports, and writing code...I will know what my assumptions
were at the time (ie: do I HAVE to add those child records
for the software to function correctly. So, if I write code to
make a booking, all of my code thus assumes that people
are also to be added to the booking. Break that assuming
of mine, and likely my code will break).
So, the ER diagram can convey a lot about your designs. Down the road, I can
now look at that diagram, and when writing code, I will know if the design
can, and does assume if child records are required. If you look at that
table, it is VERY RARE that I require the child record. That application has
about 60 tables, and I think only 1 or 2 in the whole thing is NOT a left
join. Hence, you most certainly should set the relation in the window for
future reference, and also it will help you when you create a query, or a
report.
