one of the two networked PCs can't get to the shared files.

[Guest]

I have set up a network between XP home and Professional. While both PCs ping
properly each other I can't find a way to make XP Pro see the shared files of
XP Home. I have tried setting up a guest account but it didn't work. I even
created an account like the one i connect from XP Pro but no luck. Both PCs
connect directly via ethernet cards of the same brand and model. None of them
has SP2 on and XP Home is a greek version while Pro is U.S. English. They
belong to the same workgroup and the network was set up through the wizard.
XP Home connects to the internet properly through Pro but that is as far as
it goes. XP Pro acts as the server of course.
Some friends say that a network can't really work between XP Home and Pro
and they even said that MS is officialy deterring people from setting up such
networks.I simply hope that it's not true.

any suggestions?

 

[Guest]

WindowsXp home and Pro should see other in a Workgroup setting. But NOT in a
Domain.
As to your sharing problem, have you check your firewall Policies, either
Windows' or Norton?

 

[Chuck]

I have set up a network between XP home and Professional. While both PCs ping
properly each other I can't find a way to make XP Pro see the shared files of
XP Home. I have tried setting up a guest account but it didn't work. I even
created an account like the one i connect from XP Pro but no luck. Both PCs
connect directly via ethernet cards of the same brand and model. None of them
has SP2 on and XP Home is a greek version while Pro is U.S. English. They
belong to the same workgroup and the network was set up through the wizard.
XP Home connects to the internet properly through Pro but that is as far as
it goes. XP Pro acts as the server of course.
Some friends say that a network can't really work between XP Home and Pro
and they even said that MS is officialy deterring people from setting up such
networks.I simply hope that it's not true.

any suggestions?

Yiannis,

Firstly, it is absolutely poss bile to network XP Home and Pro. And AFAIK, it
should be possible to network two different languages.

This is actual XP Home, NOT XP Light that they're selling in Asia, right? XP
Light does NOT network.
<http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=18826293&_requestid=205456>

When you activated Guest on the XP Pro computer, did you use Local User Manager
(Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc")? Did you also activate Guest on the XP Home
computer?

Are you running both Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer Sharing
for Microsoft Networks (Local Area Connection - Properties), on each computer?
Do you have shares setup on each?

Are you running NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP
- Properties - Advanced - WINS) on each computer?

Make sure the browser service is running on each computer. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser service is
started.

Is the XP Pro computer running ICS? Make sure that ICF is not activated on the
Ethernet connection. And make sure ICF is NOT running on the XP Home computer.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Guest]

Hi and thank you both.

This is actual XP Home, NOT XP Light that they're selling in Asia, right? XP
Light does NOT network.

I'm in Greece that is why XP Home version is Greek so no asian cut down
versions here
since Greece whether for good or bad was\is not under any circumstances a
part of Asia.

When you activated Guest on the XP Pro computer, did you use Local User Manager
(Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc")? Did you also activate Guest on the XP Home
computer?

yup although unfortunately the problem is the Pro version can't connect to
home
and afaik Home doesn't have a LUM unless it's a hidden feature.as a matter
of fact
i just tried to use it on XP Home the feature is there but it's locked and
it "reminds"
me that i'm running Home and that LUM is not available for this version.

Are you running both Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer Sharing
for Microsoft Networks (Local Area Connection - Properties), on each computer?
Do you have shares setup on each?

Yes they are running on each one and shares are set up properly.
XP by default share specific folders anyway when on LAN.

Are you running NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP
- Properties - Advanced - WINS) on each computer?

yes they are all running on default settings.
should I turn on DHCP settings perhaps since i'm on fixed IPs atm.

Make sure the browser service is running on each computer. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser service is
started.

CB service is up and running

Is the XP Pro computer running ICS? Make sure that ICF is not activated on the
Ethernet connection. And make sure ICF is NOT running on the XP Home computer.

XP Pro is running ICS. ICF is disabled as I run a different firewall
software which is shut down
when i'm not connected to the internet.
I got the same response when the firewall was off as when it was on.

 

[Guest]

btw I failed to denote the error i get, which is:

"\\Remote is not accessible.You might not have permission to use..blah blah.
Access is Denied"

Thank you
YiannisK

 

[Chuck]

Hi and thank you both.


I'm in Greece that is why XP Home version is Greek so no asian cut down
versions here
since Greece whether for good or bad was\is not under any circumstances a
part of Asia.



yup although unfortunately the problem is the Pro version can't connect to
home
and afaik Home doesn't have a LUM unless it's a hidden feature.as a matter
of fact
i just tried to use it on XP Home the feature is there but it's locked and
it "reminds"
me that i'm running Home and that LUM is not available for this version.



Yes they are running on each one and shares are set up properly.
XP by default share specific folders anyway when on LAN.



yes they are all running on default settings.
should I turn on DHCP settings perhaps since i'm on fixed IPs atm.


CB service is up and running


XP Pro is running ICS. ICF is disabled as I run a different firewall
software which is shut down
when i'm not connected to the internet.
I got the same response when the firewall was off as when it was on.

Yiannis,

What is this "different" firewall? Many third party firewalls are known for
interfering with file sharing, even when "shut down". You need to re enable,
then either un install, carefully following all un install procedures provided
by the vendor, or properly configure for file sharing only on your local LAN.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Chuck]

Hi and thank you both.


I'm in Greece that is why XP Home version is Greek so no asian cut down
versions here
since Greece whether for good or bad was\is not under any circumstances a
part of Asia.



yup although unfortunately the problem is the Pro version can't connect to
home
and afaik Home doesn't have a LUM unless it's a hidden feature.as a matter
of fact
i just tried to use it on XP Home the feature is there but it's locked and
it "reminds"
me that i'm running Home and that LUM is not available for this version.



Yes they are running on each one and shares are set up properly.
XP by default share specific folders anyway when on LAN.



yes they are all running on default settings.
should I turn on DHCP settings perhaps since i'm on fixed IPs atm.


CB service is up and running


XP Pro is running ICS. ICF is disabled as I run a different firewall
software which is shut down
when i'm not connected to the internet.
I got the same response when the firewall was off as when it was on.

Yiannis,

What is this "different" firewall? Many third party firewalls are known for
interfering with file sharing, even when "shut down". You need to re enable,
then either un install, carefully following all un install procedures provided
by the vendor, or properly configure for file sharing only on your local LAN.

Also, what folder are you sharing on the XP Home computer? The "C:\Windows" and
"C:\Program Files" folders (and sub folders) are not shareable on XP Home; you
need administrative (full user) access, which is not available to Guest.

If no solution, do some diagnostic work.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Identify operating system (by name and version) with each ipconfig listing.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
<http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188305>

You can download Browstat from:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
<http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), needs no install, and runs from the command
prompt. Just drop it onto a couple workstations, and run it.

Please provide browstat information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Guest]

Hi Chuck,

i used Zone Alarm as a firewall but not anymore.I uninstalled it just in
case.
I installed SP2 and now i'm using MS firewall which is disabled on my LAN
and works only for the internet connection on XP Pro.

here are the resulting ip config text files:

Windows XP Pro

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : yiannis
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

PPP adapter Otenet:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : #
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : #
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : #
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.170.0.1

195.170.2.2

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : ADMtek AN983 based ethernet adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : #
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Windows XP Home

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : nikos
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : ADMtek AN983 based ethernet
adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : #
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

(from this point on the text is translated from greek to english
and the translation might not be so accurate)

DHCP server(provider?) . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS server(provider?) . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Starting date . . . . . . . . . . : Monday September 6 2004 time
Expiration Date . . . . . . . . . : Monday September 13 2004 time


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I know for sure that NETBIOS over TCP/IP *is* enabled in the advanced
settings wins tab on both PCs
ipconfig says otherwise;

as for browstat info :


Windows XP Pro

Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{6EBD6488-5C35-4899-A00E-4FFF85694EE2}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: YIANNIS
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master YIANNIS
\\YIANNIS
There are 2 servers in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{6EBD6488-5C35-4899-A00E-4FFF85694EE2}
There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{6EBD6488-5C35-4899-A00E-4FFF85694EE2}


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Windows XP Home



Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3A75B0F2-8878-47E4-8105-C5A99281274F}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: YIANNIS
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\YIANNIS . Version:05.01 Flags: 51003 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master YIANNIS
\\YIANNIS
There are 2 servers in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3A75B0F2-8878-47E4-8105-C5A99281274F}
There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3A75B0F2-8878-47E4-8105-C5A99281274F}


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Browstat denotes domain although my network is not on a domain but a
workgroup.
At least that is what i set it up to be


any ideas? i see some potential problems based on the result but i don't
know how to fix those.. perhaps if there was a way to scrap the whole
connection and run the network wizard from scratch cause i think it has
messed up the configurations. but i can't delete those connections.

 

[Chuck]

Hi Chuck,

i used Zone Alarm as a firewall but not anymore.I uninstalled it just in
case.
I installed SP2 and now i'm using MS firewall which is disabled on my LAN
and works only for the internet connection on XP Pro.

here are the resulting ip config text files:

Browstat denotes domain although my network is not on a domain but a
workgroup.
At least that is what i set it up to be


any ideas? i see some potential problems based on the result but i don't
know how to fix those.. perhaps if there was a way to scrap the whole
connection and run the network wizard from scratch cause i think it has
messed up the configurations. but i can't delete those connections.

Yiannis,

Browstat always refers to your workgroup as a domain. For more information
about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
<http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001>
<http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305>
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>

Make sure the browser service is running on nikos. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser service has a
Status of Started.

When you un installed Zone Alarm, did you follow these procedures:
<http://nh2.nohold.net/noHoldCust25/Prod_1/Articles55646/CompleteUninstallNonNT.html>

Yiannis, Zone Alarm has been involved in so many file sharing problems (even
when deleted OR disabled!). Some folks have reported success by:
1) Re install ZA.
2) Enable ZA.
3) Configure ZA for file sharing on the LAN, or
4) Un install ZA following procedures in the above link.

I recommend #3 over #4. You need protection.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.