OMG, NOW NOTHING WORKS! (PART 2 of my CONTROLLING DRIVE LETTERS thread . . .)

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CURIOUS ANGEL

The continuing saga of
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...5d853/c7bd6ef953096166?hl=en#c7bd6ef953096166

Rod, Peter, Andy, GUYS . . .

I fooled around with the IDE cables, trying to get the Zip Drive and my
old Sony CD-Rom onto the Promise IDE Controller and now when I try to
boot up the computer just beeps these hideous beep signals. I can't
even get a BIOS screen! It's black!

And I checked every single power connection. And I even put the IDE
cable back the way it was before! I'm in trouble!

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!

I'm on my old 486 posting this!

Angel

OMG how do you start a computer that won't even get you to the
BIOS???????
 
Rod, Peter, Andy, GUYS . . .
I fooled around with the IDE cables, trying to get the Zip Drive and my
old Sony CD-Rom onto the Promise IDE Controller and now when I try to
boot up the computer just beeps these hideous beep signals. I can't
even get a BIOS screen! It's black!

And I checked every single power connection. And I even put the IDE
cable back the way it was before! I'm in trouble!

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!
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Disconnect all signal and power cables from all mass media devices
(floppy, CD's, DVD's, hard drives, ZIP drives). Remove all cards
but video. Reset/remove memory modules (all but one).
Remove power (AC) cord from Power Supply for 30 seconds,
put it back. Connect just monitor and keyboard. Press power on
button. Does it beep or show any activity on screen?
 
CURIOUS ANGEL said:
The continuing saga of
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...5d853/c7bd6ef953096166?hl=en#c7bd6ef953096166
Click to expand...
Rod, Peter, Andy, GUYS . . .
Click to expand...
I fooled around with the IDE cables, trying to get the Zip Drive
and my old Sony CD-Rom onto the Promise IDE Controller
and now when I try to boot up the computer just beeps these
hideous beep signals. Ican't even get a BIOS screen! It's black!
Click to expand...
And I checked every single power connection. And I even
put the IDE cable back the way it was before! I'm in trouble!

I'm on my old 486 posting this!
Click to expand...

You sure you aint been dancing on graves ? |-(
Angel
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OMG how do you start a computer that won't even get you to the BIOS???????
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Basically by reversing what you did to make it beep.

I'd remove the promise controller and see if it beeps without it.
If it does, remove everything except the boot drive and its controller
and see if it still beeps. If it does, you've just managed to dislodge
something like the ram in the process of molesting it etc. Take it
right back to the absolute minimum, no cards plugged in at all,
see if it still beeps. If it does, check the beep code in the manual
and there will likely be some useful info from that. Remove and
reseat the ram, see if it can at least boot enough to not beep.
If it still beeps, you may have managed to move the motherboard
around enough to produce a short to case etc. The best test for
that is to see if it still beeps with the motherboard out of the case,
loose on the desktop. If it still does, check if you have dislodged
the automatic cpu config jumper etc. If it still beeps, you've killed it.
Order a new motherboard and put a stake thru the old one's heart.
 
Rod Speed, <[email protected]>, the fecal, two-eared giblet, and trainer
of circus clowns, maundered:

Take it
right back to the absolute minimum, no cards plugged in at all,
see if it still beeps.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No video card, BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!

You ****ing techno-retard cuntfungus, Wodleypoo.
 
CURIOUS said:
The continuing saga of
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...5d853/c7bd6ef953096166?hl=en#c7bd6ef953096166

Rod, Peter, Andy, GUYS . . .

I fooled around with the IDE cables, trying to get the Zip Drive and my
old Sony CD-Rom onto the Promise IDE Controller and now when I try to
boot up the computer just beeps these hideous beep signals. I can't
even get a BIOS screen! It's black!

And I checked every single power connection. And I even put the IDE
cable back the way it was before! I'm in trouble!

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!

I'm on my old 486 posting this!

Angel

OMG how do you start a computer that won't even get you to the
BIOS???????
Click to expand...

Not having seen the prior thread, I have to wonder if you unplugged the
computer before messing inside it and use minimal anti-static
precautions. Beyond that, do what we all do: unplug the PC and using
anti-static precautions disconnect everything from the motherboard and
PSU except: video card, CPU, one stick of RAM. Make sure you haven't
bumped and slightly dislodged the RAM, CPU, or video card from the
motherboard. Make sure you haven't left a screw floating around the case
that could be shorting the motherboard. Now try and get the system to
get through a POST.

Ari

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
Also, make sure you reset the CMOS - check your jumpers, you can find this
info on the web. Once the machine boots; shut down and replace everything
the way it was when it worked, before you started mucking about.

Good Luck.

SM
 
CURIOUS said:
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!
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Remain calm. Don't do anything at all unless you can start calm and
remain calm.

Being emotional won't help, and it might hurt.

If you are getting a beep code, it's the motherboard trying to tell you
something. If you know what BIOS/motherboard you have, you can research
what the beep codes are. Check the manual or check online. A long
silen-like beep means something different then three quick beeps.
 
spodosaurus said:
Not having seen the prior thread, I have to wonder if you unplugged the
computer before messing inside it and use minimal anti-static
precautions. Beyond that, do what we all do: unplug the PC and using
anti-static precautions disconnect everything from the motherboard and
PSU except: video card, CPU, one stick of RAM. Make sure you haven't
bumped and slightly dislodged the RAM, CPU, or video card from the
motherboard. Make sure you haven't left a screw floating around the case
that could be shorting the motherboard.
Click to expand...

Use a good light and a magnifier for that and take your time. I never will
forget the time that after pulling a $500 board and starting to install the
replacement I spotted the screw wedged under a component lead that I hadn't
seen with the board in the machine.
 
Peter, Rod, ScreamingMan, Aratzio, Spodosaurus . . . good morning.

I got out the Supermicro User's Manual and looked in the back of the
book for beep action. Let me describe the sequence of beeps first:

BEEP BEEP (pause) BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

I'm not sure how to interpret the first two: I either have two
sequential errors (2 + 8) or (10).

2 = PARITY ERROR
A parity error was detected in the base memory (the first 64 KB block)
of the system.

8 = DISPLAY MEMORY READ/WRITE ERROR
The system video adapter is either missing or its memory is faulty.
Please note: This is not a fatal error.

10 = CMOS SHUTDOWN REGISTER READ/WRITE ERROR
The shutdown register for CMOS memory has failed

ON THE NEXT PAGE however, you read this:
4, 5, 7, or _10_ TIMES
The motherboard must be replaced.

:(

So, obviously I want to first rule out the recoverable error issues.

I'm inclined to shoot for the CMOS _first_, but have no idea how to do
it.

What do you guys think? Or should I work on something else first?

I'm here. Thanks everyone.

Angel
 
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CURIOUS ANGEL said:
Peter, Rod, ScreamingMan, Aratzio, Spodosaurus . . . good morning.

I got out the Supermicro User's Manual and looked in the back of the
book for beep action. Let me describe the sequence of beeps first:

BEEP BEEP (pause) BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

I'm not sure how to interpret the first two: I either have two
sequential errors (2 + 8) or (10).

2 = PARITY ERROR
A parity error was detected in the base memory (the first 64 KB block)
of the system.

8 = DISPLAY MEMORY READ/WRITE ERROR
The system video adapter is either missing or its memory is faulty.
Please note: This is not a fatal error.

10 = CMOS SHUTDOWN REGISTER READ/WRITE ERROR
The shutdown register for CMOS memory has failed

ON THE NEXT PAGE however, you read this:
4, 5, 7, or _10_ TIMES
The motherboard must be replaced.

:(

So, obviously I want to first rule out the recoverable error issues.

I'm inclined to shoot for the CMOS _first_, but have no idea how to do
it.

What do you guys think? Or should I work on something else first?

I'm here. Thanks everyone.

Angel
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Looks like its the video card do you have it plugged in correctly.
 
ToolPackinMama said:
Remain calm. Don't do anything at all unless you can start calm and
remain calm.
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Thank you TPM, and good morning to you. Yes, a good night's rest has
placed me in a considerably better mood. :)

Please read the post I made simultaneous to yours for the BEEP codes on
my Supermicro MB. Incidentally, these are not sirens, but fast BEEPs,
with that one short pause mentioned . . .

Curious Angel
 
CURIOUS ANGEL said:
Peter, Rod, ScreamingMan, Aratzio, Spodosaurus . . . good morning.

I got out the Supermicro User's Manual and looked in the back of the
book for beep action. Let me describe the sequence of beeps first:

BEEP BEEP (pause) BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

I'm not sure how to interpret the first two: I either have two
sequential errors (2 + 8) or (10).

2 = PARITY ERROR
A parity error was detected in the base memory (the first 64 KB block)
of the system.

8 = DISPLAY MEMORY READ/WRITE ERROR
The system video adapter is either missing or its memory is faulty.
Please note: This is not a fatal error.

10 = CMOS SHUTDOWN REGISTER READ/WRITE ERROR
The shutdown register for CMOS memory has failed

ON THE NEXT PAGE however, you read this:
4, 5, 7, or _10_ TIMES
The motherboard must be replaced.

:(

So, obviously I want to first rule out the recoverable error issues.

I'm inclined to shoot for the CMOS _first_, but have no idea how to do
it.

What do you guys think? Or should I work on something else first?

I'm here. Thanks everyone.

Angel
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clear the cmos via the jumper...again if you have done this before
take all but 1 memory module out
do you have on board video if so use it instead of an add on card
 
Nick said:
Looks like its the video card do you have it plugged in correctly.
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If that video card were plugged in any more securely it would have to
be soldered lol.

Angel
 
JAD said:
clear the cmos via the jumper...again if you have done this before
take all but 1 memory module out
do you have on board video if so use it instead of an add on card
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Good morning JAD. Did you mean . . . "again if you HAVEN'T done this
before . . ." ?

The only thing I've unplugged this far is the Promise card (and a
couple of the CD drives).

Power is still plugged in, however, as is
RAM
IDE 1 cable (currently 2 GB Maxtor and Zip drive)
IDE 2 cable (two DVD drives).

How do I unjumper the CMOS? I have a schematic of my MB printed out
(thank God!!!) and, of course, the manual. Do I just lift the jumper
off? And then what? RAM?

I have 4 sticks of 512 MB RAM -- take out all but the first? (being
careful of course that the lead slot gets the stick, I do know that
lol).

Thanks JAD, everyone.

Angel
 
JAD said:
clear the cmos <snip>
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I'M BACK IN BUSINESS GUYS!!!!! I found this in the manual:

CMOS CLEAR
". . . A second way of resetting the CMOS contents is by pressing the
<Ins> key, then turning on the system power. Release the key when the
power comes on."

She boots!

And I'm now going to post a new thread having to do with -->CABLING,
since I totally messed it up before, and this time pray I can do it
RIGHT.

I'd go out and get drunk except I'm still on my first cup of coffee
lol.

Thanks everyone!

Angel
 
CURIOUS ANGEL said:
Good morning JAD. Did you mean . . . "again if you HAVEN'T done this
before . . ." ?
Click to expand...

Well for me this procudure is like the parachute...when all else
fails...jump and pull the cord

The only thing I've unplugged this far is the Promise card (and a
couple of the CD drives).
Click to expand...
You should have followed the advice and removed EVERYTHING except the cpu-1
memory module-vidcard/onboard but, you may get lucky

Power is still plugged in, however, as is
RAM
IDE 1 cable (currently 2 GB Maxtor and Zip drive)
IDE 2 cable (two DVD drives).

How do I unjumper the CMOS? I have a schematic of my MB printed out
(thank God!!!) and, of course, the manual. Do I just lift the jumper
off? And then what? RAM?
Click to expand...

some boards have a 'special'shortcut to the reset option otherwise the reset
jumper has three prongs jumper may be on 1 and 2 put it on 2 and 3 with the
psu unplugged(unplugging when removing stuff too)...manual time for you
 
heh heh u did get lucky....cool
CURIOUS ANGEL said:
I'M BACK IN BUSINESS GUYS!!!!! I found this in the manual:

CMOS CLEAR
". . . A second way of resetting the CMOS contents is by pressing the
<Ins> key, then turning on the system power. Release the key when the
power comes on."

She boots!

And I'm now going to post a new thread having to do with -->CABLING,
since I totally messed it up before, and this time pray I can do it
RIGHT.

I'd go out and get drunk except I'm still on my first cup of coffee
lol.

Thanks everyone!

Angel
Click to expand...
 
CURIOUS said:
JAD wrote:




Good morning JAD. Did you mean . . . "again if you HAVEN'T done this
before . . ." ?

The only thing I've unplugged this far is the Promise card (and a
couple of the CD drives).
Click to expand...

Disconnect everything except CPU, video card, and one memory module, as
has been suggested several times.
Power is still plugged in,
Click to expand...

Unplug the PC before doing anything inside it! The ATX boards still have
power even when switched off. You're going to damage something.
however, as is
RAM

IDE 1 cable (currently 2 GB Maxtor and Zip drive)
IDE 2 cable (two DVD drives).
Click to expand...

Disconnect these. Once you get the system to POST you can reconnect, one
at a time, the different devices.
How do I unjumper the CMOS? I have a schematic of my MB printed out
(thank God!!!) and, of course, the manual.
Click to expand...

Not knowing your board, there are often three pins for the CMOS reset
jumper. Switching from the non-reset pins to the reset pins will clear
the CMOS. You then put the jumper back the way it was at the beginning,
or else you'll be continually resetting the CMOS.
Do I just lift the jumper
off? And then what? RAM?

I have 4 sticks of 512 MB RAM -- take out all but the first?
Yes

(being
careful of course that the lead slot gets the stick, I do know that
lol).

Thanks JAD, everyone.

Angel
Click to expand...


--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
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