Old XP on new system

  • Thread starter Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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JS

Some new PC's no longer support Windows XP, go to the
manufacturer's web site and verify that drivers are available
for your make and model. You will need drivers for your
motherboard, Video, Sound, Network chip or card.

As to your Windows CD (assuming you have the XP drivers):
As long as it's not an OEM copy you should not have a problem.
Even some OEM versions may work (no guaranty).

If your Windows CD is a SP1 or SP2 version you can install SP3
without any problems, if your Windows CD is the original Gold
version then you need to install SP1 or SP2 before installing SP3.

Windows SP2 Download (WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...be-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&DisplayLang=en

Get Your PC Ready for Windows XP SP2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/sp2_whattoknow.mspx

Don't use the Windows Update web site to install SP3.
Download the SP3 file and install. Read all the info below carefully
before you install SP3.

*** Note: If the PC is an HP model
see the very last set of three guidelines I posted ***

Your PC must be at least SP1 or SP2 level as SP3 will not
install on XP Gold.

Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode:
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353

How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389

Where to download the SP3 installation file:
(File is large but will only install components that your PC requires)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Overview
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&displaylang=en
Be sure to download and read the file titled 'Overview of Windows XP Service
Pack 3'
Note: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1
or SP2."

The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3
Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing
Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)
"For a PC on which Windows XP is already installed"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us

Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx

Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929/en-us

List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/

Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3.
Also includes troubleshooting information.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us

Internet Explorer: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP)
"If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta
version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP
SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3,
uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."

XP SP3: Post Installation Cleanup:
http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827

How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of
Windows XP Service Pack 3:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us

Free unlimited installation and compatibility support
(Via Email, Chat or Phone support)
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

Availability of the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix
Describes the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix rollup package
for the Mscorwks.dll, Mscorsvr.dll, and Mscorlib.dll files.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896061/en-us

How to prevent SP3 from being installed on your PC
(Windows Service Pack Blocker Tool Kit)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...7A-5267-4BD6-87D0-E2A72099EDB7&displaylang=en
(Works for 1 year from date SP3 was released)


*** HP Computers with an Intel Processor. ***
Error message after you upgrade a computer that uses a processor other than
an Intel processor to Windows XP Service Pack 2 or to Windows XP Service
Pack 3: "STOP: 0x0000007E"
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=953356
This is the patch to fix the above issue "For non-Intel processors"
***Must be applied before installing SP3***
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A7-54D6-4C31-BDA3-EFD2F7E87A8C&displaylang=en

You receive a "Stop 0x0000007E" error message after you upgrade to Windows
XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3 on a non-Intel-processor-based computer.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888372

From: Jesper Johansson's blog
Does your AMD-based computer boot after installing XP SP3?
(Affects AMD-based computers with OEM images, primarily HP Desktops)
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jes...ed-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx

JS
www.pagestart.com
 
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Bruce Chambers

Dirk said:
I have an installation disc copy of XP that I used on a machine that is
now scrapped. It's around 4 years old IIRC.
Will I still be able to use it on a new machine?
Click to expand...

Can't say. You've omitted all of the information necessary to provide
an answer:

Is the new machine WinXP-compatibile?

Are there WinXP-specific device drivers available for all of the
computer's internal components?

What specific type of WinXP license do you have? Is it a full retail
license? Is it an upgrade license that requires an older, qualifying OS
to be available on the new machine for upgrading? Or is it a
non-transferable (i.e., permanently bound to the forst computer on which
it was installed) OEM license?
Will it automatically
update to SP2,SP3 etc?
Click to expand...


Again, can't say, because you haven't provided us with enough
information to determine if WinXP can even be installed.


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Xandros

Typically you can install XP on a new system but you may have to do a bit of
searching for drivers. I do it all the time and finding drivers can be a bit
taxiing but not impossible. The larger problem has to do with legality. If
your old version of XP can preinstalled on the scraped computer it could be
an OEM version. If so it is tied forever to the first system it was
installed on. Silly as that may sound it is the law. So if this is an OEM
version you may as well scrap the disk and license. But if the license was a
retail license then you will legally be able to install it on another
system. Remember to do your homework first and find drivers.
 
D

DL

As an aside, OEM versions are not legally recognised as such in some EU
countries (Germany being one)
 
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

        Can't say.  You've omitted all of the information necessary to provide
an answer:

Is the new machine WinXP-compatibile?

Are there WinXP-specific device drivers available for all of the
computer's internal components?

What specific type of WinXP license do you have?  Is it a full retail
license?  Is it an upgrade license that requires an older, qualifying OS
to be available on the new machine for upgrading?  Or is it a
non-transferable (i.e., permanently bound to the forst computer on which
it was installed) OEM license?


        Again, can't say, because you haven't provided us with enough
information to determine if WinXP can even be installed.
Click to expand...

OK - it's a machine I am putting together myself. Intel Quad.
The copy of XP is an OEM I bought for the old machine which is now
expiring (CPU AMD XP2400+)
Strangely, it is once again cheaper to put together a hi spec machine
oneself than buy it from the likes of Dell etc.
Relevant drivers will come with the components, I assume. Otherwise
off the Net.

Dirk
 
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Xandros

Can't say. You've omitted all of the information necessary to provide
an answer:

Is the new machine WinXP-compatibile?

Are there WinXP-specific device drivers available for all of the
computer's internal components?

What specific type of WinXP license do you have? Is it a full retail
license? Is it an upgrade license that requires an older, qualifying OS
to be available on the new machine for upgrading? Or is it a
non-transferable (i.e., permanently bound to the forst computer on which
it was installed) OEM license?


Again, can't say, because you haven't provided us with enough
information to determine if WinXP can even be installed.
Click to expand...

OK - it's a machine I am putting together myself. Intel Quad.
The copy of XP is an OEM I bought for the old machine which is now
expiring (CPU AMD XP2400+)
Strangely, it is once again cheaper to put together a hi spec machine
oneself than buy it from the likes of Dell etc.
Relevant drivers will come with the components, I assume. Otherwise
off the Net.

Dirk

If you actually installed the OEM version on the old machine then you can't
install it on another. that is the rule. OEM versions are cheaper for a
reason. You can install it as many times as you want on the first system but
once installed it becomes forever locked to that system.
 
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

OK - it's a machine I am putting together myself. Intel Quad.
The copy of XP is an OEM I bought for the old machine which is now
expiring (CPU AMD XP2400+)
Strangely, it is once again cheaper to put together a hi spec machine
oneself than buy it from the likes of Dell etc.
Relevant drivers will come with the components, I assume. Otherwise
off the Net.

Dirk

If you actually installed the OEM version on the old machine then you can't
install it on another. that is the rule. OEM versions are cheaper for a
reason. You can install it as many times as you want on the first system but
once installed it becomes forever locked to that system.
Click to expand...

So, no hardware changes allowed?
I'll give it a try and see what happens.

Dirk
 
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Jerry

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax said:
So, no hardware changes allowed?
I'll give it a try and see what happens.

Dirk
Click to expand...

I would be it will activate just fine. Microsoft doesn't keep track of all
those OEM licenses forever, after some time passes that same license will
work on a totally new computer.
 
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gls858

Jerry said:
I would be it will activate just fine. Microsoft doesn't keep track of all
those OEM licenses forever, after some time passes that same license will
work on a totally new computer.
Click to expand...

With XP used to be 120 days. No idea if it's been changed or not.

gls858
 
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Xandros said:
Typically you can install XP on a new system but you may have to do a bit of
searching for drivers. I do it all the time and finding drivers can be a bit
taxiing but not impossible. The larger problem has to do with legality. If
your old version of XP can preinstalled on the scraped computer it could be
an OEM version. If so it is tied forever to the first system it was
installed on. Silly as that may sound it is the law. So if this is an OEM
version you may as well scrap the disk and license. But if the license was a
retail license then you will legally be able to install it on another
system. Remember to do your homework first and find drivers.
Click to expand...

Well, I've installed it and activated it with MS.
Do I have to load SP1, then SP2, then SP3 in that order?
Also, can't find SP1 download - any ideas?

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Bruce Chambers

Dirk said:
OK - it's a machine I am putting together myself. Intel Quad.
Click to expand...


That still doesn't tell us if it's WinXP-compatible. Have you ensured
that there are WinXP-specific device drivers available for all of the
components you'll be using to build the machine?

The copy of XP is an OEM I bought for the old machine which is now
expiring
Click to expand...


Then you'll need to purchase a new license of WinXP for the new
machine, provided the answer to the question above is in the affirmative.


Strangely, it is once again cheaper to put together a hi spec machine
oneself than buy it from the likes of Dell etc.
Click to expand...


Actually, that's not at all strange; I've found that to often be the case.
Relevant drivers will come with the components, I assume. Otherwise
off the Net.
Click to expand...

You can't "assume" that newly purchased components necessarily will
have drivers for a legacy OS, such as WinXP. Check first.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 

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