Old FP 2000 w/ New Computer XP Home?

[Guest]

Hi I just got a new Windows XP Home system and I am trying to run FP2000,
which is an upgrade from FP98.

I first installed FP98 but I did not choose to install the Microsoft
Personal Web Server, as I was going to install what I use to use the PWS.
Then I installed the Upgrade to FP2000 and it did not find the MPWS or any
server. This is what I see when trying to create a new web:
http://<--No Host-->

This is where I used to see Local Host...

I used to be able to use Personal Web Server to connect to C/inetpub files
on my computer.

I am lost on how I should go about this. I want to be able to publish to
webs on the internet that support FP extensions,
Which my web server does support on a WindowsNT server, enabled FP2000
servers.

1. Should I just reinstall FP98 and the MPWS?
2. Will the PWS still work for me on XP Home and FP2000.
Where do I get the right version or extension?

3. Do I need to go and get all the Service Packs yet again for FP2000?

What is IIS and do I need it? If I do where is it at on XP Home and do I
need to adjust those settings?

4. Are there upgrades I should look at?

5. Should I just buy the upgrade from FP2000 to the newest one, I personally
think that would be over kill for me since I am trying to get out of the Web
design business and would only be interested in doing a small personal web
site for myself in the future.

I hate to go and install a bunch of SPack's or patches only to find I did
them in the wrong order or didn't need them in the first place!! I don't want
to goof up a clean install of FP right off the get go and then try figure out
what steps I need to undo!!!

TIA for all your help and please if possible try to be as discriptive as
possible...I am blonde...as if an excuse is needed to understanding this
stuff!! LOL

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Windows XP Home does not support any Microsoft web servers.
You can run FP 2000 as a disk based web. You would need to uninstall FP
2000 and FP 98.

Then, reinstall FP 2000, and, when it asks for a qualifying product, insert
the FP98 cd. It will not install FP 98, just use the disk as a qualifier.

If you want the use of a web server, you would need to upgrade to WinXP Pro,
which uses IIS5.1

Or, install the free Apache web server to winXP home, but it does not
support FP server extensions.
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| Hi I just got a new Windows XP Home system and I am trying to run FP2000,
| which is an upgrade from FP98.
|
| I first installed FP98 but I did not choose to install the Microsoft
| Personal Web Server, as I was going to install what I use to use the PWS.
| Then I installed the Upgrade to FP2000 and it did not find the MPWS or any
| server. This is what I see when trying to create a new web:
| http://<--No Host-->
|
| This is where I used to see Local Host...
|
| I used to be able to use Personal Web Server to connect to C/inetpub files
| on my computer.
|
| I am lost on how I should go about this. I want to be able to publish to
| webs on the internet that support FP extensions,
| Which my web server does support on a WindowsNT server, enabled FP2000
| servers.
|
| 1. Should I just reinstall FP98 and the MPWS?
| 2. Will the PWS still work for me on XP Home and FP2000.
| Where do I get the right version or extension?
|
| 3. Do I need to go and get all the Service Packs yet again for FP2000?
|
| What is IIS and do I need it? If I do where is it at on XP Home and do I
| need to adjust those settings?
|
| 4. Are there upgrades I should look at?
|
| 5. Should I just buy the upgrade from FP2000 to the newest one, I
personally
| think that would be over kill for me since I am trying to get out of the
Web
| design business and would only be interested in doing a small personal web
| site for myself in the future.
|
| I hate to go and install a bunch of SPack's or patches only to find I did
| them in the wrong order or didn't need them in the first place!! I don't
want
| to goof up a clean install of FP right off the get go and then try figure
out
| what steps I need to undo!!!
|
| TIA for all your help and please if possible try to be as discriptive as
| possible...I am blonde...as if an excuse is needed to understanding this
| stuff!! LOL
|
|

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Windows XP Home doesn't support any MS Web servers or the FP extensions. If you want to work with a
web server, then you have to upgrade to Windows XP Pro and install IIS.

However unlike FP98, FP2000 is designed to work with disk-based webs.

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[Guest]

Thank you both..I will do what you suggest and uninstall both of them.

What is the difference between Disk Based Web & Web Server?
Is Disk based web one that I would create in My Webs folder and then just be
able to publish web to http://www.mysite.com? If it is then that is all I
need!!!

Nice to see you 2 still around...I remember your great help from Years and
Years ago!!!! ;o) Oh Oh are we getting old or what???

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

A disk-based web would be one that you open via the drive letter, such as c:\my documents\my web

A server-based web is open via http://localhost


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[Andrew Murray]

To save trouble that may be presented with PWS, you don't *need* to install
FP98. Just have that disk handy when FP 2000 asks for the qualifying
upgrade product.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Thomas for the explaination of the two web types.

On the server-based web, I can still IMPORT them to c:\my documents\my
web\my site right?

But then this means that I would not longer be able to save and have it save
automatically to the http://www.my_site.com?

It will only save as far as c:\my documents\my web\my site and then from
there I will have to publish this site every time to the
http://www.my_site.com.
In addition I will have to use FTP to publish my changed pages?

Doesn't FTP'ing pages loose the capabilites of some FrontPage2000 abilities?

This might mean I have to keep my older computer working to do my web sites
the "right" way! ;o(

Does this do me any good if it doesn't support FP Server Extensions?
Or, install the free Apache web server to winXP home, but it does not
I sure wish MicrosoftXP had thought of all this when they changed the way it
did work!! Was it done for a security reason? Or just a mis-placed judgement?
;o)

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

If you are using a server-based web (http://localhost) on your machine, you would not use c:\My
Documents\... at all.

How you open a web on your local machine as either http://localhost (server-based) or c:\my
documents\.. (disk-based) has no impact on working with your live/remotely host site at
http://www.yourdomain.com

You will get no benefit from FP running an Apache web server under Windows XP Home, since you will
not be able to open the site on the Apache server.

MS did think it out, and the result is that you have to purchase Windows XP Pro if you want to use a
MS web server and run the FP extensions and/or work with ASP.net, etc. Windows XP Pro does have
additional security for connection to a corporate network and having open access to the internet
when running a web server.

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FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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