Old ASUS CUV4X

[jamesjaddah1755]

I have a older ASUS CUV4X motherboard that I'm using in a pc in an attempt to get videos to play.

After fresh install of Windows XP, using several different drives, I cannotseem to get a video playing in either of the three media players I tried. Not DVDs or video files.

At best I might get a frozen or near frozen image that looks like this: http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/...ter/ASUSCUV4XMediaPlayerImage_zps4b1fd60a.jpg

Or the pc would just freeze when I attempted to play open up a video file/DVD. It's as if this is beyond the PCs power.

The only odd thing is that the computer does occasionally/randomly send me into set-up upon booting up prompting me to correct the CPU frequency settings, but I don't know why since I corrected them using just the dip switches as per what is in the manual. And also in BIOS. http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/CUV4X2_zpsccea01ef.jpg

I tried different settings, but I'm presently at 133 x 7.5.

Could the real problem be the ram? They are not matching sticks. But the entire 512mb(256 x 256) does show up.

I can however play mp3s, that is the most I can do.

Any advice on what to do?

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

 

[Paul]

I have a older ASUS CUV4X motherboard that I'm using in a pc in
an attempt to get videos to play.

After fresh install of Windows XP, using several different drives,
I cannot seem to get a video playing in either of the three media
players I tried. Not DVDs or video files.

At best I might get a frozen or near frozen image that looks like this:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/...ter/ASUSCUV4XMediaPlayerImage_zps4b1fd60a.jpg

Make sure the Display control panel, has your AGP video card
set for 32 bit color. The colors look like you're in 16 bit
or some lower mode. And if it is a lower mode, then the
driver is not working. Go to Device Manager, and review the
video card and driver file entry. Or even, run dxdiag from
command prompt, and play with the test buttons, to get some
idea how well things are working.

Please give us details on the video card make and model.
It means less guessing.

Or the pc would just freeze when I attempted to play open up a video
file/DVD. It's as if this is beyond the PCs power.

The only odd thing is that the computer does occasionally/randomly
send me into set-up upon booting up prompting me to correct the CPU
frequency settings, but I don't know why since I corrected them using
just the dip switches as per what is in the manual. And also in BIOS.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/CUV4X2_zpsccea01ef.jpg

I tried different settings, but I'm presently at 133 x 7.5.

Do you think that's crash recovery perhaps ?
Like something Asus would do, if it thought the PC had crashed.
If you've turned on the "jumper settings" switch, it
should be hard wired (JEN at position 1-2 should hard wire
the speed).

Could the real problem be the ram? They are not matching sticks.
But the entire 512mb(256 x 256) does show up.

Could be CPU instability. Is it really a 133 x 7.5 = 1GHz processor ?

You have to be careful of any internal ratios. If 1:1 with RAM,
you'd want PC133 RAM sticks, or they'd be run out of spec.

Check the System/SDRAM Frequency ratio. For example, 4/3
would take a 133MHz CPU and create a 100MHz RAM clock for
PC100 RAM. Something along those lines. Some later motherboards,
might have supported the other direction, such as 3:4, and
running RAM faster than CPU. In any case, check your math.

At one time, there was also a ratio setting, between CPU (133)
and AGP slot. We'd have set that to 2:1 to get AGP 66MHz. That's
the correct clock for AGP (twice the PCI clock).

I can however play mp3s, that is the most I can do.

Any advice on what to do?

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

To help decode DVDs, Inverse Discrete Cosine Transform helps (IDCT).
Most video cards have that, so it's not worth checking for it.
I don't really know when that came in. Before my time.

(An unimportant link...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete_cosine_transform

But that's only a portion of video playback. IDCT only
helps a tiny bit.

On my previous P4 system, I found a pretty large
overhead for "scaling". If a video is 720, and you
stretch it to 1024 wide, and the video card lacks
a scaler, it uses 40% of my P4 just doing that. So
*don't* display video in non-native format. I only
have one video card here, with a decent scaler, where
the CPU does nothing when asked to scale. The GPU does
it all. Older cards (MX440), wouldn't have a scaler
as far as I know. I don't think my 9800 Pro had a scaler.

If you could find a modern video card (with AGP slot),
that might have a DVD video decoder inside it. We may
have discussed this, at some point in the past.

The driver situation on stuff like this, can be pretty grim.
Always read the reviews for the still-for-sale AGP cards,
as they'll have the details about where to get a driver.
There aren't many good cards left to choose from.

HD 4350
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161318

The 4350 is UVD 2.2, meaning a certain vintage of decoder
is in the GPU. This would likely work better than your
current card - as long as a driver can be found that
actually works. Still, you've only got a 1GHz processor,
which is too slow for the ~1.5GHz suggested limit, so
your video card has to be "damn good" on its decoder.
With an MX440 say, you'd have next to nothing in terms of
decoding. The video should still play, but drop frames
in an attempt to keep the audio in sync.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVD

RV710 Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series UVD 2.2

HTH,
Paul

 

[Flasherly]

I tried different settings, but I'm presently at 133 x 7.5

That's somewhat marginal for an AMD AthlonXP or similar Intel to
process today's AVI files. I'd struggle at times with a 2.4Ghz
CeleronD. Still, does seem they should play or at least offer a token
more info than just to crash. Try some lesser encodes, MPG, changing
your codecs ... might want to find some older software, closer anyway
to when/if players ran at 1Ghz core speeds. Look up if GOM is
available on SIMTEL.

 

[jamesjaddah1755]

Make sure the Display control panel, has your AGP video card

set for 32 bit color. The colors look like you're in 16 bit

or some lower mode. And if it is a lower mode, then the

driver is not working. Go to Device Manager, and review the

video card and driver file entry. Or even, run dxdiag from

command prompt, and play with the test buttons, to get some

idea how well things are working.



Please give us details on the video card make and model.

It means less guessing.

Um, there is no video card. The monitor is plugged directly into the motherboard, so it is integrated video.

Do you think that's crash recovery perhaps ?

Like something Asus would do, if it thought the PC had crashed.

If you've turned on the "jumper settings" switch, it

should be hard wired (JEN at position 1-2 should hard wire

the speed).

Nope. As I mentioned this happens "occasionally/randomly", so I doubt it has anything to do with crash recovery. And since a pc can crash for many reasons, why would ASUS do that as opposed to prompting with a warning on boot up?

Could be CPU instability. Is it really a 133 x 7.5 = 1GHz processor ?



You have to be careful of any internal ratios. If 1:1 with RAM,

you'd want PC133 RAM sticks, or they'd be run out of spec.



Check the System/SDRAM Frequency ratio. For example, 4/3

would take a 133MHz CPU and create a 100MHz RAM clock for

PC100 RAM. Something along those lines. Some later motherboards,

might have supported the other direction, such as 3:4, and

running RAM faster than CPU. In any case, check your math.



At one time, there was also a ratio setting, between CPU (133)

and AGP slot. We'd have set that to 2:1 to get AGP 66MHz. That's

the correct clock for AGP (twice the PCI clock).

The ram is from different companies. But perhaps this is the problem: PC100-222-620 and PC100-333-542

To help decode DVDs, Inverse Discrete Cosine Transform helps (IDCT).

Most video cards have that, so it's not worth checking for it.

I don't really know when that came in. Before my time.



(An unimportant link...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete_cosine_transform



But that's only a portion of video playback. IDCT only

helps a tiny bit.



On my previous P4 system, I found a pretty large

overhead for "scaling". If a video is 720, and you

stretch it to 1024 wide, and the video card lacks

a scaler, it uses 40% of my P4 just doing that. So

*don't* display video in non-native format. I only

have one video card here, with a decent scaler, where

the CPU does nothing when asked to scale. The GPU does

it all. Older cards (MX440), wouldn't have a scaler

as far as I know. I don't think my 9800 Pro had a scaler.



If you could find a modern video card (with AGP slot),

that might have a DVD video decoder inside it. We may

have discussed this, at some point in the past.



The driver situation on stuff like this, can be pretty grim.

Always read the reviews for the still-for-sale AGP cards,

as they'll have the details about where to get a driver.

There aren't many good cards left to choose from.



HD 4350

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161318



The 4350 is UVD 2.2, meaning a certain vintage of decoder

is in the GPU. This would likely work better than your

current card - as long as a driver can be found that

actually works. Still, you've only got a 1GHz processor,

which is too slow for the ~1.5GHz suggested limit, so

your video card has to be "damn good" on its decoder.

With an MX440 say, you'd have next to nothing in terms of

decoding. The video should still play, but drop frames

in an attempt to keep the audio in sync.

There is no "scaling" involved.

I'm assuming that getting a video card may help? I really don't have money to spend on this, but if worse comes to worse I was thinking about searching on Craiglist: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sys/3932929739.html

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

 

[jamesjaddah1755]

That's somewhat marginal for an AMD AthlonXP or similar Intel to

process today's AVI files. I'd struggle at times with a 2.4Ghz

CeleronD. Still, does seem they should play or at least offer a token

more info than just to crash. Try some lesser encodes, MPG, changing

your codecs ... might want to find some older software, closer anyway

to when/if players ran at 1Ghz core speeds. Look up if GOM is

available on SIMTEL.

I used Belarc to confirm the processor speed.

These same DVDs, FLV and MP4 files played ok on my 1Ghz mini-ITX that had 1G ram. (Or my previous system which had less than a 1Ghz processor and 512mb of ram).

I have several codec packs, but try to stay away from them because they tend to create more problems than solve, requiring me to uninstall them.

GOM is the player that will crash when I attempt to play a DVD.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

 

[Paul]

There is no "scaling" involved.

On the contrary, grabbing the handles on the viewing window
and changing the window size, triggers scaling, and a sudden
jump in CPU usage. That's what I saw on my P4. Going full
screen will do it - that's scaling, guaranteed.

The movie has an intrinsic size. Say it is 720. It takes
a bloody miracle, for the software to actually display
on screen at 720. And not trigger scaling. Most players
will not make it easy, for the movie to be played at
native size. They don't really have an option that
says "I have limited CPU, please don't scale anything".

I'm assuming that getting a video card may help?

I really don't have money to spend on this, but if
worse comes to worse I was thinking about searching
on Craiglist: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sys/3932929739.html

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

The resources in each computer, are limited. You can
do everything on the CPU (i.e. do output to a dumb
frame buffer, like one of those USB to VGA dongles).
Or, if the CPU is too weak, it's either a shader
program on a GPU, or decoding in a dedicated block
(available even on low end video cards in a product line),
that helps.

The purpose of getting a GPU on a video card to help,
is in some cases, you can add more processing power
to a machine that way, than you can by getting a faster
Pentium III.

On the Google Chromecast, they do exactly that. A lousy
processor, coupled with a so-so GPU fixed decoder (for
VP8 only). As soon as you stray away from VP8, it's not going
to work well at all.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7186/google-chromecast-review-an-awesome-35-hdmi-dongle/2

If you're lucky, your chipset graphics will have IDCT. And
that is only a small percentage improvement. A UVD card or
a Purevideo card may help quite a bit more, but even so,
they cheated on those (as I read recently), and there
are still some activities that the CPU has to do.

And the video card choices are getting more limited as
time goes by. The HD 4350 I selected, isn't the very best
at it, but it's all that is left at retail. There were
a few more HD 5450s. The limiting part now, is two-fold

1) Both ATI and NVidia have stopped making Rialto and HSI.
These are the bridge chips, that convert modern PCI Express
GPUs on video cards, for usage with AGP. The HSI was the
first one to be discontinued, meaning NVidia lost the
ability to make AGP, a long time ago. And while ATI made
Rialto bridges for a while longer, it's just possible the
crappy selection in Newegg, is because those are all gone too.

ATI Rialto, on the back of an ATI AGP card...

http://www.theinquirer.net/img/2779/rev_tulagp_02rialto.jpg?1241332001

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_BR02

2) Even when you do get the right hardware config, and
there is a "nice" video card with built-in movie decoding,
the card still needs a driver. The video card companies,
generally don't waste a lot of time on these cards, so
support usually consists of just one "good" driver release.

And (2) is why, if you're going to Craigslist for a card,
be damn sure to cross-check the card detail with Newegg
reviews, to see if a driver is available for it. Maybe the
driver comes from a page on the HIS site, rather than from
the ATI driver download page. You have to hunt around,
to find a driver that won't crash or artifact.

*******

I don't know anything about the GPU in your CUV4X chipset.
Even if I had the name, I doubt at this point in time, I
could locate an accurate hardware feature set.

The most modern video cards, have UVD or PureVideo. Articles
in Wikipedia, will go over what accelerations those are
capable of. The player application, has to know about DXVA,
to access the acceleration features in a general way. At
one time, before DXVA, some players had some kind of driver
package, included with the player. But those were
commercial players.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXVA

"Nvidia PureVideo - the bit-stream technology from NVIDIA
used in their graphics chips to accelerate video decoding
on hardware GPU with DXVA.

UVD (Unified Video Decoder) - is the video decoding bit-
stream technology from ATI Technologies to use hardware
(GPU) decode with DXVA."

The HD 4350 I picked out, has some version of UVD on it.
And now, you need a decent OS to use it with. Even if it
meant going to Linux and using VDPAU. You will notice in the
description, that VDPAU may not match DXVA 2.0 exactly in
terms of capability. (And on Windows, if you go to the
most modern OS, like Windows 8.1, that won't install on
a Pentium III, so you can't even run the free preview
version of the OS, as a means to getting to test DXVA 2.0.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU

"ATI/AMD released an open source driver for Radeon 4000+
graphic cards featuring VDPAU acceleration.

VDPAU is implemented in X11 software device drivers, but
relies on acceleration features in the hardware GPU.
(Currently, only the second generation PureVideo HD
bit-stream processor in some of Nvidia's GeForce 8 series
and later video controller hardware work as of Beta device
driver version 180.06."

It's basically a mine-field, in terms of what you get, and
when. You will have better luck with a commercial player
(WinDVD), than with a freebie, as the commercial players
usually get a little more help building their decoder,
from the GPU chip makers. Independent developers don't
tend to get the time of day.

*******

If you get DXVA capable hardware, you can download the
trial version of a commercial player, and see how much
difference the GPU hardware can make. For some of the
Corel software, you'll need .NET 4.0 installed, to make
the installer work. I think some other Corel crap I
tried, the trial was for 30 days. (Since I couldn't use
the interface on it, couldn't figure it out, I got
zero usage, but that's besides the point. This stuff
will undoubtedly work better, than what I was testing.)

http://www.corel.com/corel/product/index.jsp?pid=prod4090069&cid=catalog50008&segid=5000008

And picking another one from this list...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_player_software

you could look for a trial for this one. Cyberlink PowerDVD.

http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd-deluxe/features_en_CA.html

In some of the old Anandtech articles, where they evaluated
UVD and PureVideo, those are the kinds of players that
had beta hardware support.

*******

You also have the option, of playing movies in two steps.

1) Convert DVD VOB to AVI uncompressed (would take hours and hours).
2) Then, play the AVI in real time. Readout rate might be
20MB/sec from the hard drive. This might use less CPU, as
there is no decompression step.

Paul

 

[Flasherly]

I used Belarc to confirm the processor speed.

These same DVDs, FLV and MP4 files played ok on my 1Ghz mini-ITX that
had 1G ram. (Or my previous system which had less than a 1Ghz
processor and 512mb of ram). I have several codec packs,
but try to stay away from them because they tend to create more
problems than solve, requiring me to uninstall them. GOM is the player
that will crash when I attempt to play a DVD.

-

Yea, GOM and some of those older ones are rough to get working
nowadays. The best IMO is the Chinese PotPlayer, but different people
use different stuff. Media packs, true, are a pain but nice to have
when getting a curve ball encode;- better of course is to locate the
individual codecs for Curve Ball.

Hey, you know what Darren -- that MB you got is the Kitchen Sink.
Really, those things used to be a blast. Hell it's even got a IDE
slot on it, for gods sake. In their day, I thought they were great. I
know EXACTLY what it is from this review...
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=314&page=2

Memory: Pull ONE memory stick first, one at a time, to determine if
it's a memory mismatch or bad stick;- see if either will run stable.
Research their nomenclatures to find out their speed/setting specs,
and underclock them when possible or allow the MB auto-ID if
allowable.

UNDERCLOCK everything when possible with an aim to first establish
stability. Yea, the boot to CMOS MISMATCH & setup screen happens with
ASUS. Been there & done that. (Hope like hell you don't have bad
capacitors and a deteriorating board. It's well past old enough to
qualify, hate to say.) Reboot on that setup screen and either it
returns immediately (bad/mis-set CMOS values), or not (BIOS defaults
are successfully taken.)

Video. It's intensive and is sending a marginal condition into
immediate fault. Do not pass GO do not collect $200. I should think if
you run Prime95 you get the same effect in short enough order.

It's a handheld board, like I was saying -- Those sorts of boards want
to be held and cuddled, Finely Tweaked. What's probably happening is
between the video and the CPU - they can't do video replay either/or
but only in an and/both condition. UnderClock that CPU for stability
first.

Your onboard videochip should be the way to go. Simplest, actually.
(Yea, I've got a SwEEt AGP Radeon 9800 series. As well as a dual-head
Matrox PCI. Tough. Can't have 'em. -) ).

Know Thine Settings. And play, play, play with them. Eventually it
should settle in. Check your temperatures, to include a fingertip on
support heatsinks. (I've got an InFraRed temperature gun. No, damnit,
you can't have that, either. ).

Play and pray it'll work. It may be beyond hope. The nice thing
about it is, in a sense, it's just a precursor to the same 'ol. I
still drive 4- and 5-speeds, and it just pisses a world full of
bullshit people off. Right. So, I stick to the middle lane and let
them vent their big PIG SUV Spleen, on either side lanes, <WOOSH!! w/
Finger/Nose High UpInAir>and Never, Ever deviate into 2-lane streets
late at night -- when the gun-carriers in their pieces of shit are out
just looking for a chip that fell off their shoulder.

Sorry, I can't offer more. What seems help, for some I notice, in
case it's not enough, is to piss up a puddle and proceed to stomp,
then cry, and finally whine into it. (Owning a board like that is a
badge of distinction in my book - it's exactly what's sent PCs into
heldheld subscription-only devices, i.e. - requires study and
forethought on the part of the Operator.)

 

[jamesjaddah1755]

(e-mail address removed) wrote: > > I'm assuming that getting a video card may help? I really don't have money to spend on this, but if worse comesto worse I was thinking about searching on Craiglist: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sys/3932929739.html > > Thanks. > > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. If you get a card, there is a tool for checking acceleration modes. Just found this. http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DXVA-Checker They have a sample screenshot (from a recent version). http://www.videohelp.com/toolsimages/dxva_checker_1418.jpg And this thread, shows some typical examples for modern cards. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&t=131272&page=3 The MPEG2 ones, might be for DVD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2 On your CUV4X, the issue will be when was the last time VIA updated their driver. I wouldn't expect DXVA-Checker to run on an older machine - it won't find any modes, so the window should remain blank. ******* In your example link (3932929739), the HD2400 Pro is a PCI Express card, and won't fit in the CUV4X. The TNT2 would be so old, it might only have IDCT. The TNT2would be good for 800x600 gaming, but no better than your CUV4X at video decoding. Not likely to have a hardware scaler for movie fullscreen operation. I'd probably look for an HD4350, or HD5450, but it must say "AGP" if it's going to fit in your motherboard. While a "PCI" version (not "PCI Express") would fit, the "PCI" version, the driver will turn off some of the card features. Anything using more than ~100MB/sec bandwidth over PCI, is a non-starter - meaning, PCI doesn't support bandwidth intensive operations. A PCI video card, will still work. It just won't be any good for games, or for certain movie decoding features. And that's why, for your CUV4X, I'm looking at the AGP slot. ******* This manufacturer, is an ATI partner. The two cards in the upper right, might be candidates for "used". http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product1-47.shtml HIS HD 4350 512MB DDR3 AGP <--- movies HIS HD 4650 1GB DDR3 AGP <--- games/movies They don't list any 5xxx or 6xxx AGP cards. The 4670 would be a nice card, but more expensive. Only the 4350 will be reasonably priced. VisionTek doesn't list anything worthwhile, only HD 3xxx (in AGP). http://www.visiontek.com/component/search/?searchword=AGP&searchphrase=all&start=20 Sapphire has a HD 4650 and that's about it. Sapphire used to make "ATI branded" video cards, so were their OEM contractor.http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=4&sgid=571&pid=275&psn=&lid=1&leg=0 So at retail, this is probably about it.. Whereas used, you could look for the HD 4650 AGP. But be prepared for "Sticker Shock". The seller is likely to want to recover the purchase price. Note that the reviews here, reveal "driver hell", so getting the drivers right (at least with Windows 7), involves some hair loss. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161318 HIS shows a driver for WinXP,so you're in luck. A 10-7 driver would be from July 2010. This would likely give DXVA 1 and not DXVA 2 features, so slightly fewer modes. (I think you need Vista or later for DXVA 2 to work.) http://www.hisdigital.com/un/download1-498.shtml And when some stupid advert says "needs a 500W supply" fora 25 watt video card, that is bullshit. The 4350 is a low power card. Paul

I made an error. the monitor is actually plugged into a Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 video card in the first PCI slot. (I've been bouncing around several non-working system that I get confused).

Nevertheless, I'm sure it doesn't change anything you've said. I just don'tsee why none of the other PCs I've had which simular powered processors exhibited these problems.

Thanks.

Darren

 

[jamesjaddah1755]

I did try each memory stick by itself and also swapped between their slots with no changes to my video playing issues.

The board was actually under-clocked before at 133 x 5.5. I don't think there is anything else I can do.

Thanks.

Darren

 

[Paul]

I made an error. the monitor is actually plugged into a
Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 video card in the first PCI slot.
(I've been bouncing around several non-working system that I get confused).

Nevertheless, I'm sure it doesn't change anything you've said.
I just don't see why none of the other PCs I've had which simular
powered processors exhibited these problems.

Thanks.

Darren

There are some cards here, and it mentions only 2MB or 4MB of video RAM.
That's barely enough for a frame buffer. I'm surprised there'd
even be a driver for WinXP. That would be more like a Win98 card.

http://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php...nd-multimedia/342-diamond-stealth-3d-2000-pro

Does it actually have "24 or 32 bit color" ? Without a
high color mode, that may make extra work for the
CPU decoding process (map colors to 16 bit or 8 bit color).
You'd check the Display control panel, and the settings area.

It's possible the card is old enough, it doesn't have IDCT.
(Which is part of helping with decoding MPEG or the like.)

And I don't know of a way to check that.

Paul

 

[Paul]

ere great. I know EXACTLY what it is from this review... http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=314&page=2 Memory: Pull ONE memory stick first, one at a time, to determine if it's a memory mismatch or bad stick;- see if either will run stable. Research their nomenclatures to find out their speed/setting specs, and underclock them when possible or allow the MB auto-ID if allowable. UNDERCLOCK everything when possible with an aim to first establish stability. Yea, the boot to CMOS MISMATCH & setup screen happens with ASUS. Been there & done that. (Hope like hell you don't have bad capacitors and a deteriorating board. It's well past old enough to qualify, hate to say.) Reboot on that setup screen and either it returns immediately (bad/mis-set CMOS values), or not (BIOS defaults are successfully taken.) Video. It's intensive and is sending a marginal condition into immediate fault. Do not pass GO do not collect $200. I should think if you run Prime95 you get the same e
ffect in short enough order. It's a handheld board, like I was saying -- Those sorts of boards want to be held and cuddled, Finely Tweaked. What's probably happening is between the video and the CPU - they can't do video replay either/or but only in an and/both condition. UnderClock that CPU for stability first. Your onboard videochip should be the way to go. Simplest, actually. (Yea, I've got a SwEEt AGP Radeon 9800 series. As well as a dual-head Matrox PCI. Tough. Can't have 'em. -) ). Know Thine Settings. And play, play, play with them. Eventually it should settle in. Check your temperatures, to include a fingertip on support heatsinks. (I've got an InFraRed temperature gun. No, damnit, you can't have that, either. ). Play and pray it'll work. It may be beyond hope. The nice thing about it is, in a sense, it's just a precursor to the same 'ol. I still drive 4- and 5-speeds, and it just pisses a world full of bullshit people off. Right. So, I stick to the middle lane and

I did try each memory stick by itself and also swapped between their slots with no changes to my video playing issues.

The board was actually under-clocked before at 133 x 5.5. I don't think there is anything else I can do.

Thanks.

Darren

I would think another video card would be worth a try.

This one is $43 + $3 shipping, and has a $10 rebate. So $36 final cost.

(Nvidia 6200, doesn't have all the latest decoding options)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130452

But I still like this one, in terms of buzzword compliance.
If you still have a lot of AGP slot computers around, I'd get
this one.

(ATI HD 4350 with AGP bridge chip $60)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161318

If all you've got in the way of AGP based systems, is the CUV4X,
then the 6200 will be better than your current Diamond card. It will have
32 bit color. And if you look under the "AGP Geforce 6200" column,
it has "High Quality Scaler", which means no computing penalty
for going full screen. It doesn't have much else to offer.
That's why I was looking at the HD 4350 instead, because it
has a "real" video decoder inside, and not just a little IDCT assist.

http://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/11036/PureVideo_Product_Comparison.pdf

A look on Craigslist, shows a "vacuum" in terms of appropriate cards.
The TNT AGP card wouldn't be worth your time.

And considering the vintage of your hardware, WinXP is probably
the best compromise OS. Later OSes are just getting too picky
about hardware. I only have one computer here that can run Win8.
A second computer, the CPU is OK for Win8, but I need to change
the video card for it (no Win8 driver for FX5200 AGP).

Paul

 

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I did try each

memory stick by itself and also swapped between their slots with no
changes to my video playing issues.

The board was

actually under-clocked before at 133 x 5.5. I don't think there is
anything else I can do.

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Extras or at least an extra vidboard never is a bad thing to have
around. PCI/AGP, and lately addded PCI-E. I've got once of each now.
I suppose all and any other mini-block toggle switches switches and
jumpers have be checked for pertinence, as already underclocked. That
board is a generation older than seems anything I can actually recall
working with, which was that 2.4Ghz Celeron D, like almost 5 years
ago. An ISA slot is mentioned on that link, which takes that board to
somewhere potentially pushing 10 years ago. Anyone running that old
of equipment on any steady basis is getting away with something, with
lots of potential fault issues more likely. Only one I know older is
turned on maybe once a day, or a few times weekly, for an hour to
three a session.