OK. I give up, what's an "RTM"?

[Tom Horsley]

The windows update page has this link that says "RTM" support is ending:

Windows XP RTM support on Windows Update is ending. Learn more.

I can certainly learn a bunch of stuff I don't want to know by following the
link, but I can't learn what in the blue blazes "RTM" stands for .

Anyone know?

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

RTM = Released To Manufacturing. It is the original release
of Windows XP without any Service Packs. Time to
install Service Pack 2.

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| The windows update page has this link that says "RTM" support is ending:
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| Windows XP RTM support on Windows Update is ending. Learn more.
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| I can certainly learn a bunch of stuff I don't want to know by following the
| link, but I can't learn what in the blue blazes "RTM" stands for .
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| Anyone know?

 

[Bruce Chambers]

The windows update page has this link that says "RTM" support is ending:

Windows XP RTM support on Windows Update is ending. Learn more.

I can certainly learn a bunch of stuff I don't want to know by following the
link, but I can't learn what in the blue blazes "RTM" stands for .

Anyone know?

RTM = Released To Manufacturing. In simple terms, it means that the
software has been finalized and passed on to OEM manufacturers and to
the plant to be pressed onto retail CDs.

In the context of Windows Update, RTM refers to the original release of
WinXP, without any Service Packs installed. In short, there will soon
come a time when computers with WinXP installations that lack Service
Pack 2 will not be install future hotfixes.


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[Richard Urban]

Bruce!

Just to clarify for the people here, does that mean that if a person reloads
Windows XP from a CD that he purchased the day XP was released to the
public, the only update he will be able to obtain initially is SP2? Or, will
he NOT even be able to get that?

I have been asked this question 4-5 times in the last few days.

Any knowledge on this subject?

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Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

 

[Michael Stevens]

The windows update page has this link that says "RTM" support is
ending:
Windows XP RTM support on Windows Update is ending. Learn more.

I can certainly learn a bunch of stuff I don't want to know by
following the link, but I can't learn what in the blue blazes "RTM"
stands for .
Anyone know?

Release To Manufacturer
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[Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)]

Bruce!

Just to clarify for the people here, does that mean that if a person reloads
Windows XP from a CD that he purchased the day XP was released to the
public, the only update he will be able to obtain initially is SP2?

From Windows Update: maybe (at least that is what it should offer you
first as I see it).

Or, will he NOT even be able to get that?

Until SP3 is released, SP2 will *always* be available/offered,
regardless of the starting point (e.g. WinXP RTM).

 

[Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)]

In the context of Windows Update, RTM refers to the original release
of WinXP, without any Service Packs installed. In short, there will
soon come a time when computers with WinXP installations that lack
Service Pack 2 will not be install future hotfixes.

Hi

Note that you will get critical security updates for SP1 at least
up to August 2006.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Bruce!

Just to clarify for the people here, does that mean that if a person reloads
Windows XP from a CD that he purchased the day XP was released to the
public, the only update he will be able to obtain initially is SP2? Or, will
he NOT even be able to get that?

I have been asked this question 4-5 times in the last few days.

Any knowledge on this subject?

I haven't seen anything that directly addresses that (very good)
question. I would certainly hope that the RTM version would be allowed
that one update, though.

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[DevilsPGD]

I haven't seen anything that directly addresses that (very good)
question. I would certainly hope that the RTM version would be allowed
that one update, though.

Unless I've misunderstood something, XP RTM support isn't being removed,
only Windows Update access.

I'll bet that when you go to Windows Update you'll just get a link to
SP2's installer. It probably won't install through WU's installation
method but that's not a problem.

 

[Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)]

Unless I've misunderstood something, XP RTM support isn't
being removed,

Hi

XP RTM support has ended (no new security updates will be
released for it), but all the old existing updates for it
will still be available for a long time to come.

 

[DevilsPGD]

XP RTM support has ended (no new security updates will be
released for it), but all the old existing updates for it
will still be available for a long time to come.

Yeah I realize that -- I'm was just trying to point out that WU being
discontinued for RTM doesn't mean you can't update RTM, it just means
you can't use WU to do the updates.

WU's strength is that it can identify which patches you need, you don't
have to do the legwork. As long as WU detects RTM and returns a
"Install SP2" page with a clickable link to the SP2 installer, it's
still doing it's job even if formal support has been discontinued.