Office 97 and Access Database Engines

G

Guest

Help! I just purchased a new laptop with Vista Home Premium and I am unable
to run several applications I need for work. Vista will not register a
dao350.dll file that is a workhorse for several not in print industry
programs. Primarily these are CAD based, surely Vista is not locking out
entire industries? I also have heard horror stories from pilots and several
other trades that use these workhorse type programs that were written just a
few years ago on the Access 97 databases and engines. Am I missing something,
an update or ???? Another week of downtime is all I can afford to resolve
this or I have to go back to XP and advise all my counterparts an upgrade is
not possible.
 
R

Rock

DLLVista said:
Help! I just purchased a new laptop with Vista Home Premium and I am
unable
to run several applications I need for work. Vista will not register a
dao350.dll file that is a workhorse for several not in print industry
programs. Primarily these are CAD based, surely Vista is not locking out
entire industries? I also have heard horror stories from pilots and
several
other trades that use these workhorse type programs that were written just
a
few years ago on the Access 97 databases and engines. Am I missing
something,
an update or ???? Another week of downtime is all I can afford to resolve
this or I have to go back to XP and advise all my counterparts an upgrade
is
not possible.


Access 97 is 10 years old. Sorry I don't know the answer it your problem.
 
G

Guest

I know it is an older app but it was mainstream until just 5 years ago.
Commercially, a new application does not just come out every year like a game
does most of the time, I still have dos programs that have never been
re-written.

Anyway the fix is simple, I figured out. It was the UAC not allowing the
file to be registered. (User Account Control)

Disable "UAC" under users from control panel, reboot

Verify you have the following path with the dao350.dll file in it
"c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\dao\dao350.dll" if not, you
will have to download or copy the file in and create the path if it is not
there

Find the "Run" item under Accessories and type the following: rgsvr32.exe
"c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\dao\dao350.dll"

This will manually register the file properly in vista's registry

You may also need to find and change the permissions for the program exe
that uses dao350.dll by finding it and right cliccking on it, go to the
security tab and set it up to run as administrater or give it full control
under user.

Go back to Users under the control panel and turn the "UAC" back on, reboot.

All is well.
 
R

Rock

Mainstream until _just) 5 years ago? Five years is a long time in computer
reckoning. But any way, glad you got it fixed and thanks for posting back
with the resolution.
 
N

Nate Goulet

Any word from Microsoft if Office 97 Professional is officially
compatible with Vista?

I still work on a lot of PCs that run Office 97. I've learned how to
deal with most of the issues, up until Vista. Haven't yet attempted
Office 97 under Vista.

I believe Microsoft does not claim Office 97 is incompatible with
Windows XP (but a lot of work arounds are needed on some pcs) , but
i'm not sure they'd say the same for Vista.

Office is an expensive program, and when you multiply it times dozens
of users, you really need to justify that users are going to take
advantage of the new features before spending hundreds of dollars on
each pc.

I've worked with Office 2007 Professional (running on Vista Ultimate)
and most previous versions. For the most part, i'm finding Office 97
offers all of the features that users are typically looking for. The
main differences i'm seeing are more wizards. But if your users know
how to do the tasks they need manually, why do they need the latest
version?

I'd certainly admit it does have more features, i'm just saying the
vast majority of pc users will still be using the same features that
even Office 97 had. The most attractive features of 2003 or 2007
include the ability for multiple users to work on the same documents
at the same time, but I can't picture many people wanting to do that.


I did notice that Office 2007 is using a new file format. Microsoft
probably did that to force older users into upgrading if they want the
ability to open files from newer versions of Office. With users
running Office 97, i've not yet seen one case where a user could not
open a Word or Excel file that someone e-mailed from a newer version.

I have seen it with Access files, but my experience has shown Access
changes drastically from one version to the next, so you can't count
on anything working. Not being a database programmer, I typically
have users run the version of Access the files were originally created
it, or we may get unexpected errors when we least expect them.

Typically people are more likely to share Word & Excel files.

Just curious to hear what others are doing about running Office 97
with Vista.
 
W

...winston

You might find more Office related advice in the Office newsgroups.
Have you actually attempted to load, run, enter data, and create new reports in Access 2007 with a 97 version Access database and test for all potential user scenarios. Doing so should answer the primary question on whether or not you need to retain Office 97 and a prior o/s for your installed user base before determining compatibility with Vista.
...winston

: Any word from Microsoft if Office 97 Professional is officially
: compatible with Vista?
:
: I still work on a lot of PCs that run Office 97. I've learned how to
: deal with most of the issues, up until Vista. Haven't yet attempted
: Office 97 under Vista.
:
: I believe Microsoft does not claim Office 97 is incompatible with
: Windows XP (but a lot of work arounds are needed on some pcs) , but
: i'm not sure they'd say the same for Vista.
:
: Office is an expensive program, and when you multiply it times dozens
: of users, you really need to justify that users are going to take
: advantage of the new features before spending hundreds of dollars on
: each pc.
:
: I've worked with Office 2007 Professional (running on Vista Ultimate)
: and most previous versions. For the most part, i'm finding Office 97
: offers all of the features that users are typically looking for. The
: main differences i'm seeing are more wizards. But if your users know
: how to do the tasks they need manually, why do they need the latest
: version?
:
: I'd certainly admit it does have more features, i'm just saying the
: vast majority of pc users will still be using the same features that
: even Office 97 had. The most attractive features of 2003 or 2007
: include the ability for multiple users to work on the same documents
: at the same time, but I can't picture many people wanting to do that.
:
:
: I did notice that Office 2007 is using a new file format. Microsoft
: probably did that to force older users into upgrading if they want the
: ability to open files from newer versions of Office. With users
: running Office 97, i've not yet seen one case where a user could not
: open a Word or Excel file that someone e-mailed from a newer version.
:
: I have seen it with Access files, but my experience has shown Access
: changes drastically from one version to the next, so you can't count
: on anything working. Not being a database programmer, I typically
: have users run the version of Access the files were originally created
: it, or we may get unexpected errors when we least expect them.
:
: Typically people are more likely to share Word & Excel files.
:
: Just curious to hear what others are doing about running Office 97
: with Vista.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
 

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