OEM XP loaded onto 2nd computer accidentally

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Guest

My younger son's computer was acting up, so my older son took his OEM version
of XP w/SP2 (German Version) and loaded it over the OEM XP (English version)
on his computer. The computer worked, but now comes a message saying that XP
must be activated. I know that you can't run XP on 2 computers, but my
darling children didn't when they did this without asking first. I tried to
turn-back his computer to an earlier date, but that didn't work. If I buy a
new version of XP, will I be able to install it? Can I de-install the German
version of XP from the promp in the safety start-up mode? I don't think I
can/should activate it due to the program already being on my older boy's
computer.

Thanks In Advance
Gus Gofast
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

You'll need to purchase a "Full Version"
of Windows XP and perform a "clean install".

Clean Install Windows XP
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| My younger son's computer was acting up, so my older son took his OEM version
| of XP w/SP2 (German Version) and loaded it over the OEM XP (English version)
| on his computer. The computer worked, but now comes a message saying that XP
| must be activated. I know that you can't run XP on 2 computers, but my
| darling children didn't when they did this without asking first. I tried to
| turn-back his computer to an earlier date, but that didn't work. If I buy a
| new version of XP, will I be able to install it? Can I de-install the German
| version of XP from the promp in the safety start-up mode? I don't think I
| can/should activate it due to the program already being on my older boy's
| computer.
|
| Thanks In Advance
| Gus Gofast
 
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kurttrail

Carey said:
You'll need to purchase a "Full Version"
of Windows XP and perform a "clean install".

Clean Install Windows XP
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

LOL! Have you tried to activate yet?

Carey is such a little bitch, telling everybody to buy software they
really don't need.


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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
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kurttrail

Carey said:
You'll need to purchase a "Full Version"
of Windows XP and perform a "clean install".

Clean Install Windows XP
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

Oh, and an OEM copy (the one originally installed) and a repair install
should work just fine too. And guess what? That won't cost you a dime,
is perfectly legal, and shows that Carey is just a useless pile of sh*t,
trying to get you to spend money that you don't need to spend!

Carey, how do you live with yourself telling people to spend money that
they don't have to spend?


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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
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Ghostrider

Gus said:
My younger son's computer was acting up, so my older son took his OEM version
of XP w/SP2 (German Version) and loaded it over the OEM XP (English version)
on his computer. The computer worked, but now comes a message saying that XP
must be activated. I know that you can't run XP on 2 computers, but my
darling children didn't when they did this without asking first. I tried to
turn-back his computer to an earlier date, but that didn't work. If I buy a
new version of XP, will I be able to install it? Can I de-install the German
version of XP from the promp in the safety start-up mode? I don't think I
can/should activate it due to the program already being on my older boy's
computer.

Thanks In Advance
Gus Gofast


The first thing really to do is to find the Windows XP disc
that came with the OEM XP (English version) computer. Once
found, and depending on the type of XP disc, do a repair or
recovery installation. If the originally-supplied Windows XP
disc or recovery disc could be found, then it would remove
the necessity of buying a new Windows XP disc, retail or a
qualifying generic version.
 
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Steve N.

Carey said:
You'll need to purchase a "Full Version"
of Windows XP and perform a "clean install".

Although that will certainly do the job, I would advise the OP to try to
find the original OEM CD that came with the PC (if one exists) or obtain
a generic OEM CD rather than go out and buy a Full Version of XP.

Steve N.
 
F

Frank

Steve said:
Although that will certainly do the job, I would advise the OP to
try to find the original OEM CD that came with the PC (if one
exists) or obtain a generic OEM CD rather than go out and buy a
Full Version of XP.
Steve N.

Steve I don't know where this Carey Frisch (MVP) is coming from.
Any old XP OEM CD will work as long as one has the CD key.
(A XPSP2 slipstreamed would save a lot of download time).
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

A Genuine Microsoft Windows XP License consists of:

1. The original Certificate of Authenticity
2. The Windows XP Product Key
3. The PC manufacturer's method of restoring Windows XP
4. The original PC manufacturer's licensing documentation.

A substitution of a generic OEM Windows XP CD for the PC
manufacturer's restore method is invalid and is a form of
software piracy. Having just the COA and Product Key alone
is considered an incomplete license which can only be made
complete by contacting the PC manufacturer and ordering "their"
OEM restore or reinstallation CD which is designed for their
Product Key and licensing agreement.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| Steve I don't know where this Carey Frisch (MVP) is coming from.
| Any old XP OEM CD will work as long as one has the CD key.
| (A XPSP2 slipstreamed would save a lot of download time).
 
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Steve N.

Carey said:
A Genuine Microsoft Windows XP License consists of:

1. The original Certificate of Authenticity
2. The Windows XP Product Key
3. The PC manufacturer's method of restoring Windows XP
4. The original PC manufacturer's licensing documentation.

A substitution of a generic OEM Windows XP CD for the PC
manufacturer's restore method is invalid and is a form of
software piracy. Having just the COA and Product Key alone
is considered an incomplete license which can only be made
complete by contacting the PC manufacturer and ordering "their"
OEM restore or reinstallation CD which is designed for their
Product Key and licensing agreement.

You are incorrect Carey. As an educational organization we buy
completely legal and genuine XP licenses and media from WWW.OETC.ORG
that includes no COA, no documentation, only a burned install CD with
and OETC label and a product key printed on the invoice. In fact we
don't even have to buy the CD, all that is needed is the key in this
case, it doesn't matter where the media comes from as long as it is the
correct type.

Steve N.
 
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Steve N.

Steve said:
You are incorrect Carey. As an educational organization we buy
completely legal and genuine XP licenses and media from WWW.OETC.ORG
that includes no COA, no documentation, only a burned install CD with
and OETC label and a product key printed on the invoice. In fact we
don't even have to buy the CD, all that is needed is the key in this
case, it doesn't matter where the media comes from as long as it is the
correct type.

Steve N.

Forgot to include; as far as OEMs go, we buy 10 PCs from a particular
OEM and they ship only 1 install media.

Steve N.
 
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Steve N.

Frank said:
Steve I don't know where this Carey Frisch (MVP) is coming from.

He is apparently misinformed and posts his misinformation as though it
was fact. You will notice that other MVPs do not propogate the same
misinformation as he frequently does.
Any old XP OEM CD will work as long as one has the CD key.
(A XPSP2 slipstreamed would save a lot of download time).

It must be the correct type of OEM CD, there are different kinds.
Usually (but not always) a generic OEM CD will work with an OEM key.
Again, it depends, the key type and CD type must match. However, in the
case of purchasing a new Generic OEM CD the key issue is moot; it comes
with a new key.

Steve N.
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

You misunderstood. I was referring to a computer that
had a customized OEM version of Windows XP preinstalled
by a computer manufacturer.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| You are incorrect Carey. As an educational organization we buy
| completely legal and genuine XP licenses and media from WWW.OETC.ORG
| that includes no COA, no documentation, only a burned install CD with
| and OETC label and a product key printed on the invoice. In fact we
| don't even have to buy the CD, all that is needed is the key in this
| case, it doesn't matter where the media comes from as long as it is the
| correct type.
|
| Steve N.
 
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Steve N.

Carey said:
You misunderstood.

I think you miscommunicated.
I was referring to a computer that
had a customized OEM version of Windows XP preinstalled
by a computer manufacturer.

Then perhaps you should have said that. Nowhere in this thread did I see
OEM customized installation mentioned, only your blanket and incorrect
definition of what an XP license consists of and the false statement
that any method of re-installing the OS other than that supplied by the
OEM equates to piracy. This is simply not true. If it were then everyone
making slipstreamed CDs and using them to re-install the OS are pirates.

Steve N.
 
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kurttrail

Steve said:
I think you miscommunicated.


Then perhaps you should have said that. Nowhere in this thread did I
see OEM customized installation mentioned, only your blanket and
incorrect definition of what an XP license consists of and the false
statement that any method of re-installing the OS other than that
supplied by the OEM equates to piracy. This is simply not true. If it
were then everyone making slipstreamed CDs and using them to
re-install the OS are pirates.
Steve N.

And even then WinXP OEM PKs from major OEM usually work with Generic
WinXP OEM media.

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
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Steve N.

kurttrail said:
Steve N. wrote:




And even then WinXP OEM PKs from major OEM usually work with Generic
WinXP OEM media.

That's what I keep saying, too. In fact I have had to use generic CDs
many times to perform repair installations on PCs that were supplied
with crippled/mangled/b@stardized OEM CDs that fool you into thinking
you're doing a repair install when in fact it does a parallel install on
the same partition, or worse, a clean install with no warning and no way
to bail out. So I know for a fact that in many cases (if not most) it
does work (thankfully).

Steve N.
 

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