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[magineer02]

I understand that this is very off topic but I thought with everyone expertise you might be able to help.

I was thinking of using Gmail versus Hotmail as I've heard Hotmail is beingreplaced with Outlook. Now I do have Yahoo and Verison accounts but hardlyever use them but what bothers me is when I was going through the process of creating a Gmail account it asked for my phone number.

Of course they put a disclaimer that they will never use it. So if they arenever going to use it then why ask for such personal information? I realize that Hotmail is dated but I'm rather leery of giving out personal information just to get an account. Does anyone have any suggestions for a better,secure email?

Thanks,
Robert

 

[magineer02]

Phone number is for using an emergency backup . They have my number .

Nevertheless I still don't feel comfortable about giving such personal information out. I never had to do so with Hotmail or Yahoo. Also how is the phone number used for emergency backups? Do they call you or something? If so, how do I know its them or someone scamming? Sounds too iffy to me.

Robert

 

[magineer02]

Nevertheless I still don't feel comfortable about giving such personal information out. I never had to do so with Hotmail or Yahoo. Also how is the phone number used for emergency backups? Do they call you or something? If so, how do I know its them or someone scamming? Sounds too iffy to me.



Robert

In passing, can someone please tell me why my posts use the entire line where I see other users in nice compact form? Should I use some third party toview and respond to?

Thanks,
Robert

 

[Paul]

In passing, can someone please tell me why my posts use the entire line where I see other users in nice compact form? Should I use some third party to view and respond to?

Thanks,
Robert

You're using Google Groups ? Why exactly ?

*******

Both aioe.org and eternal-september.org are free news servers.
And they make the "nice compact posts".

On aioe.org, no account is required. Just set up a newsreader, like
Thunderbird or Forte Agent, then use it. There is a limit to the
number of text posts you can make a day here (which is part of managing
users that don't need an account).

http://www.aioe.org/

Eternal-September requires a username and password. That's so if you
fail to meet the TOS, you can be TOSsed. You have to register for this
one. Mr. Banana, the admin, is a nice guy.

http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo

http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=faq

Thunderbird is free, and a bit difficult to figure out. But not
nearly as bad as some of the old text-only clients with the
200 or so keyboard shortcuts Thunderbird is free. Seamonkey,
hosted nearby, is a second alternative. Also free, and shares
some of the same code. In fact, there are enough tools available,
you can afford to put email in one tool, and USENET news in another,
and never accidentally post an "email to mom", to something like
alt.flame.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Together, these give you more control over what your posts look
like, than Google Groups would.

Don't forget to adjust the line wrap preference, as you see fit.
I disable line wrap on mine, and "hard-format" posts with the
<return> key. As I'm a control freak (and also like to post
fixed-format tables on occasion).

Paul

 

[Good Guy]

I understand that this is very off topic but I thought with everyone expertise you might be able to help.

I was thinking of using Gmail versus Hotmail as I've heard Hotmail is being replaced with Outlook. Now I do have
Yahoo and Verison accounts but hardly ever use them but what bothers

me is when I was going through the process of creating a

Gmail account it asked for my phone number. Of course they put a
disclaimer that they will never use it. So if they are never going
to use it then why ask for such personal information? I realize that

Hotmail is dated but I'm rather leery of giving out personal information

just to get an account. Does anyone have any suggestions for a

better, secure email? Thanks, Robert



Just make up the number or give somebody's fax number if you don't have
your own fax number.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On 20/02/2013 19:06, (e-mail address removed) wrote: []
Hotmail is dated but I'm rather leery of giving out personal
information

just to get an account. Does anyone have any suggestions for a

better, secure email? Thanks, Robert



Just make up the number or give somebody's fax number if you don't have
your own fax number.

I usually give sites who insist on having a number, one of their own
numbers, if I can see one on their site. Especially if it's any sort of
number that costs more than a standard one to call. (Some UK companies'
sites won't accept non-geographical numbers, though.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

And if you kill Judi Dench, you can't go back home. - Bill Nighy (on learning
to ride a motorbike [on which she would be side-saddle] for "The Best Exotic
Marigold Hotel"), quoted in Radio Times 18-24 February 2012.

 

[micky]

In passing, can someone please tell me why my posts use the entire line where I see other users in nice compact form? Should I use some third party to view and respond to?

Not only that, Google Groups puts in extra blank lines when someone
quotes you, or maybe it's when someone using Google quotes someone
else, but whatever it is, it's google's fault.

It does other bad things too.

Google groups is fine for finding old posts that you don't have on
your own computer, but it's bad for everything else. Get yourself a
newwerver and some software, both free if you want it, and come play
with the big boys.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Capice!

What I'm about to say is *doubly* off-topic. I don't say it be
insulting or to pick on you, but you happen to have struck a sore
point with me. I'm not fluent in Italian, but I know a fair amount of
it, and this is a word that's enormously misused by most Americans
So...

1. It's spelled "capisce."

2. It's pronounced kah-PEE-shay, not kah-PEESH.

3. The infinitive of the verb "to understand" is "capire" (pronounced
kah-PEE-ray).

4. Capisce" is the third-person singular, not the first person
(although it also is used politely for the second person singular). So
it means "he understands, "she understands," "you understand," or "do
you understand?"

5. The first person singular ("I understand") is very different. It's
"capisco" (pronounced kah-PEE-sko).

6. For some reason I don't really understand, when Italians want to
say "I understand," instead of saying "capisco," they usually say it
in the past tense, "ho capito" (pronounced oh-kah-PEE-to) which means
"I understood," or more literally "I have understood."

OK, I'll shut up now <g>

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Odd! What happened to the missing "capisce" in that sentence?

That's quite alright. I appreciate the correction.

Glad to hear you're not insulted, and glad to have provided some extra
info.

Obrigado.

That's Portuguese, I think. The Italian for "Thank you" is "grazie."

Prego, if you meant it in Italian. I don't know how to say "you're
welcome" in Portuguese.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Você é bem-vindo ;-)

Although I've been in both Portugal and Brazil, I know no more than a
tiny handful of Portuguese words, not including those.

You either know more than I do, or you looked it up. ;-)

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Você é bem-vindo ;-)

Tchau.

Unless that was tongue-in-cheek, I think the word you're looking for
there is something like "Ciao"; "Tchau" is a sort of Germanic spelling
of that (though would probably be spelt Tschau). A suitable German
informal goodbye would be Schuss (can't remember whether with an Umlaut
or not - I think yes), pronounced something like shoo with ss on the
end.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Tchau is correct and use it over YIM quite often with a friend who is in
Brazil.

Then I guess that's the Portuguese spelling of the word that, as J. P.
Gilliver says, is spelled "ciao" in Italian.