O&O Defrag versus Microsoft Defrag in Vista

[Guest]

Out of curiosity I wanted to do a side-by-side test of Microsoft Defrag
versus O&O Defrag, and was shocked...

Microsoft Defrag announced at its completion all drives defragmented. When I
loaded O&O Defrag next, it reported that the hard drive was 78% fragmented!!

Whats going on with Microsoft Defrag? Why would it tell me defrag done at
78% fragmentation? (with O&O Defrag you can actualy look at each cluster and
see listings of what sections of what files occupy that cluster and sure
enough there was very wide fragmentation everywhere)

Does Microsoft Defrag work? Or does it have a level of "acceptable
fragmentation" (although I cant imagine why it would think 78% fragmentation
is acceptable)

 

[Robert Moir]

Out of curiosity I wanted to do a side-by-side test of Microsoft Defrag
versus O&O Defrag, and was shocked...

Microsoft Defrag announced at its completion all drives defragmented. When
I
loaded O&O Defrag next, it reported that the hard drive was 78%
fragmented!!

Whats going on with Microsoft Defrag? Why would it tell me defrag done at
78% fragmentation?

Well it might be that you've found a bug, after all Vista is still beta
software.

More importantly, different defrag programs have very different ideas about
how to defrag a drive, what constitutes a defragged drive, what difference a
particular pattern of files will make to performance, etc.

 

[Jeff]

Whoever dumbed down defrag in Vista; ouuta be fired-IMHO
Jeff

 

[Robert Moir]

Whoever dumbed down defrag in Vista; ouuta be fired-IMHO
Jeff

I'm disappointed too, as it happens. What they've done makes perfect sense
at the machine level but shows absolutely no idea of how people interact
with their computer.

 

[Jeff]

Ah,
Robert,
We agree-lol

Jeff
P.S. As you well know; command line defrag works fine;but I miss all the
colors.
LOL

 

[Guest]

With all of the ooo and ahhh of vista, I miss the colors as well.

Please give me a "more information" button, so I know how long I have to
wait...
--
John

PC: (XPS Gen 1) laptop
Mem 1 gb
processor P4 3.4
Video ATI 9800 256 MB
Vista RC1 build 5600/5728 dual boot
Base score 4.3

 

[news.microsoft.com]

With all of the ooo and ahhh of vista, I miss the colors as well.

Please give me a "more information" button, so I know how long I have
to wait...

Yeah. People can talk all day about how much the pictures were worth but not
having any kind of estimate of time left, percentage complete or whatever is
just inexplicable.

Actually, long story short, I've got so annoyed with Vista on my main
machine that I've put XP back on. I'm still running RC1 in a dual boot
config on my Apple MacBook though, for testing, but I'm stunned that such a
ropey piece of software is considered near enough to release to call it a
release candidate.

 

[Guest]

Not ready to ditch yet, though dealing with the UAC system just to allow the
defrag -v -c command (yes I need the information, but still no time estimate)
was a bit frustrating to the standard user.

It seems that there are two levels of information - very "dumbed-down" user
information and the IT Pro information (with whole web sites of "exciting"
information!)

Hey, I hope I can speak for some Vista users out there (at least for home
use) - include the "more detail" option for every application. Let the users
decide the level of information that they want. One would believe that this
is the true test of a RC ready piece of software.

--
John

PC: (XPS Gen 1) laptop
Mem 1 gb
processor P4 3.4
Video ATI 9800 256 MB
Vista RC1 build 5600
Base score 4.3

 

[Telstar]

Out of curiosity I wanted to do a side-by-side test of Microsoft Defrag
versus O&O Defrag, and was shocked...

Which build of O&O are you running?
I remember that I tried one version that I couldnt install.

I'm gonna try diskeeper 10 beta for build 5600 now... so I can
uninstall the crappy auslogic disk defrag (which is very quick btw).

 

[Guest]

Telstar,
I have Diskeeper 10 and loaded Vista RC 1 and Diskeeper 10 works.Now I did a
manually defrag and it did good.Was some files that it coulndn't open to
defrag but that was a small amount.And I have to research to find out how to
get these open so Diskeeper can do its job.

 

[Guest]

Telstar,

I might be wrong on this.It may work but it doesn't work defraging all the
time like it was meant to do.So I just downloaded the Raxco's Perfect Disk 8
for Vista RC 1 and will use that for now until Diskeeper comes out with
another version to work on Vista.Sorry about this.But i really like Diskeeper.

 

[Telstar]

Telstar,
I have Diskeeper 10 and loaded Vista RC 1 and Diskeeper 10 works.Now I did a
manually defrag and it did good.Was some files that it coulndn't open to
defrag but that was a small amount.And I have to research to find out how to
get these open so Diskeeper can do its job.

It seems I'm cursed with defrag in Vista.
After installing Diskeeper 10 and rebooting, ALL the storage is
diappeared from Computer Management and now I cant resize or move any
partition.

Here goes another uninstall hoping I can fix MMC...

 

[Telstar]

Here goes another uninstall hoping I can fix MMC...

Hopefully uninstalling fixed the MMC, I'm waiting for an answer from
Diskeeper for this huge bug.