Nvidia's 'Nalu' vs ATI's 'Ruby'

[Danny]

Nvidia's GeForce 6800 (NV40) 'Nalu' demo consists of 300,000 polygons.

very very impressive shit!

ATI's Radeon X800 (R420) 'Ruby' demo consists of only 80,000 polygons.
however it is also rendering a background with other elements. closer
to what would be in an actual game.

now, console gamers: keep in mind, whatever ATI has been able to come
up with at this point (re: the R420 / Radeon X800) is a stepping stone
to what they'll be able to have in 2005 for Xbox Next, and in 2006 for
GCNext

Tech demos like these are a load of garbage with only limited appeal, but
there's no doubt in my mind ATi's are utter pants.
Nvidia's are far better.
Completely irrelevant to the discussion but hey.

 

[Andrew Ryan Chang]

Of course, normal video is, by nature, already fully anti-aliased.

True enough! But it's not just current generation rendering's
aliasing that bugs me.

 

[Memnoch]

http://karpo.org/images/Dunno/Ruby.jpg

Nvidia's GeForce 6800 (NV40) 'Nalu' demo consists of 300,000 polygons.
very very impressive shit!

ATI's Radeon X800 (R420) 'Ruby' demo consists of only 80,000 polygons.
however it is also rendering a background with other elements. closer
to what would be in an actual game.

now, console gamers: keep in mind, whatever ATI has been able to come
up with at this point (re: the R420 / Radeon X800) is a stepping stone
to what they'll be able to have in 2005 for Xbox Next, and in 2006 for
GCNext

Thank God they can finally render realistic skin! I hope I'll notice that when
I am blowing the faces of Nazis in Wolfenstein 2!

 

[Asestar]

Thank God they can finally render realistic skin! I hope I'll notice that
when

I am blowing the faces of Nazis in Wolfenstein 2!

Just thinking.. with so realistic graphics, where you can see REAL
expressions on face of your enemy while killing them, it's kind of
disturbing. I mean there might be some people who actually show mercy due to
this..

However, back in old Soldier Of Fortune days things were different. After
playing a multiplayer map with 4 bots for about 10 minutes, made the whole
screen look like tomato soup, without you ever feel a grain of pitty or
guilt

Just a tought..

 

[Asestar]

I mean with so realistic graphics, games just might get a new dimension to
them.

I can remember countless games where i'm supposed to protect someone /
rescue a hostage. Only those ill-fated moron "victums" were so stupid or bad
looking that i ended up replaying the level, just because I shot them
myself.

One such example is Soldier Of Fortune 2 , single player campaign. I still
can't forget those horribly big/terrified (or sometimes missing...) eyes of
hostages I was suppose to protect

 

[Bagpuss]

If it's backwards compatible, it's hardly completely different, from a
compatibility standpoint

On top of that is the maria or what ever just a superset of the
stella. In which case the same applies. Its just another Atari
iteration, just as they did with the whole of the 8 bit and 16 bit
range. The only really out there progressions were the first units of
the type, the Jag, ATW & Lynx (PC clones aside).

 

[JLC]

I mean with so realistic graphics, games just might get a new dimension to
them.

I can remember countless games where i'm supposed to protect someone /
rescue a hostage. Only those ill-fated moron "victums" were so stupid or bad
looking that i ended up replaying the level, just because I shot them
myself.

One such example is Soldier Of Fortune 2 , single player campaign. I still
can't forget those horribly big/terrified (or sometimes missing...) eyes of
hostages I was suppose to protect

It's just to bad that we are probably not going to see any of this latest
technology for a long time in our PC games. It's always cracks me up when a
new demo like Nalu comes out and everyone goes nuts and starts taking about
how great the new games are going to be. The demos are just that, tech demos
to show off what the cards can do. That sure doesn't translate into us
gamers actually seeing any of this stuff in our games. Think about how long
the "Dawn" has been around, or any of the cool looking ATI demos for that
matter. Do we have any games yet that look anything as good as say ATI's
"Nature" demo? Sure we have "Farcry" that looks great, but it's also killing
off most mid level PC's. And it is a long way from what some of the 2 year
plus demos look like. The problem is that for few game makers that are not
afraid to push the envelop, there's many more that want to sell as many
games as they can as cheaply as possible. So we are left playing games that
still are built around 4 year old code. JLC

 

[speed of a cheetah]

I mean with so realistic graphics, games just might get a new dimension to
them.

I can remember countless games where i'm supposed to protect someone /
rescue a hostage. Only those ill-fated moron "victums" were so stupid or bad
looking that i ended up replaying the level, just because I shot them
myself.

One such example is Soldier Of Fortune 2 , single player campaign. I still
can't forget those horribly big/terrified (or sometimes missing...) eyes of
hostages I was suppose to protect

Thats where YOU stop playing games becuase YOU might hurt somebody in real
life. Anyone who cannot differ between virtual reality and reality should
not be watching movies or playing games.

Give me a game where you shoot at Mario that has millions of expressions and
ligaments that fly off, i'll glady buy it and play it with out feeling any
guilt what so ever.

 

[Asestar]

Thats where YOU stop playing games becuase YOU might hurt somebody in real

life. Anyone who cannot differ between virtual reality and reality should
not be watching movies or playing games.

Give me a game where you shoot at Mario that has millions of expressions and
ligaments that fly off, i'll glady buy it and play it with out feeling any
guilt what so ever.

Strangly enough, I was saving planning to buy new rims for my car, and so
saving some money. But after playing SoF games, well, i had this strange
urge to buy an M4
Just a replika, not the real shit!

 

[KillZoneBigNuts]

GameBoySP is backwards compatible and so was the Atari 7800

Even with the release of the PSP it will be nearly impossible for Sony
to take a large chunk of the Gameboy market share simply due to
backwards compatibility.

Also, PC's are backwards compatible.

People don't buy new video cards because they don't work with older games.

 

[Ben Pope]

People don't buy new video cards because they don't work with older games.

Often they do these days. A mate of mine is upgrading from a GeForce4 MX
because it doesn't support DX9 and the games he wants to play require it.

Ben

 

[Darthy]

Thats where YOU stop playing games becuase YOU might hurt somebody in real
life. Anyone who cannot differ between virtual reality and reality should
not be watching movies or playing games.

People who cant tell reality from fantasy who are dangerous don't need
games to make them into killers...

Hitler & Nazis
Jeffry Dahlmer
The dark ages...
Arabs (all of them have been killing each other for centuries)

They rape, mass murder and torture... they did not have MTV, Marylin
Manson, GTA or other violent games or porno videos for them to review
and come up with the sick shit they did other humans.


Guess what... there were never the "good ole" days that people talk
about.... think they'e gonna get somehow.