Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang Opens A Can of Words on Intel

[NV55]

http://tinyurl.com/3htnuq

I've never heard Jen-Hsun go on about Intel like that in a conference
call before.

He must truly be worried about Intel's upcoming Larrabee
architecture.

I think Larrabee scares the living shit out of him.

 

[pg]

http://tinyurl.com/3htnuq

I've never heard Jen-Hsun go on about Intel like that in a conference
call before.

He must truly be worried about Intel's upcoming Larrabee
architecture.

I think Larrabee scares the living shit out of him.

Larrabee is nothing. Huang was right to say that Larabee, which will
come out to the market in 2010, is inferior to current crop of low-end
GPU, such as Radeon HD 2600, which has a whooping 120 stream
processors !

If you take account of the top GPUs that is available today, all
equipped with 512 stream processors (and more!), Larrabee, with its
puny 16-core, is nothing.

By 2010, top-of-the-line GPU would have 1K or more processors embedded
inside. How long would it take Intel to come up with 1K-core
Larrabee??

Stop and think. Don't buy into Intel's FUD.

 

[Ed]

Larrabee is nothing. Huang was right to say that Larabee, which will
come out to the market in 2010, is inferior to current crop of low-end
GPU, such as Radeon HD 2600, which has a whooping 120 stream
processors !

If you take account of the top GPUs that is available today, all
equipped with 512 stream processors (and more!), Larrabee, with its
puny 16-core, is nothing.

By 2010, top-of-the-line GPU would have 1K or more processors embedded
inside. How long would it take Intel to come up with 1K-core
Larrabee??

Stop and think. Don't buy into Intel's FUD.

It's the same old Intel standard, 80+% is based on Marketing/Hype/Stolen
Patents, -20% is actual R&D. They'll do and say anything to keep their
stock price up.

Only thing Jen-Hsun is scared of is the long arm of Intels marketing,
it's hard to compete when you're dealing with brainwashed consumers.

Intel hasn't made a decent integrated graphics chip to date, but I do
hope Larry is better, good GPU competition can only give us consumers
better products at lower prices. As long as Intel does it legally that
is.

 

[Miles Bader]

Intel hasn't made a decent integrated graphics chip to date

Eh? My work pc has some kind of old intel integrated graphics (i845?)
and it's just fine, does a very decent job of running opengl apps etc.
Newer chips are supposedly much faster (and the upcoming generation even
better of course). Intel knows their market.

I suppose gamers want something much studlier, but what intel makes is
fine for normal use.

Intel's also made a lot of friends because of their very open attitude
-- while nvidia is _still_ pulling the "no you can't have the specs that
allow you to support our hardware" bullshit. [They'll come around
eventually, but in the meantime it sure as hell isn't making them look
any better.]

In any case, the Nvidia guy's rant seemed pretty pathetic... If he wants
to project confidence, that was exactly the way _not_ to do it.

-Miles

 

[Ed]

Eh? My work pc has some kind of old intel integrated graphics (i845?)

Some of our work PCs have Intel graphics, they pretty much suck IMO.

 

[Ed]

Onboard video GPUs almost always suck at high end games. Good for the office
but bad for the battlefield.

Intel integrated GPUs aren't even good for most 2D office apps, forget
3D!

 

[Ed Medlin]

How do you figure that? Seems to work fine for me.

They do work fine for what they are designed to do, basic 2d and 3d
rendering. The more complex the video needs, the worse the performance.
Nvidia will be around a long time in their market. These are two completely
different markets.


Ed

 

[Miles Bader]

Some of our work PCs have Intel graphics, they pretty much suck IMO.

Do you have anything to back up such a broad claim?

As I said in the text you omitted in your quoting, Intel's embedded
chips -- even the low-end ones -- seem to work absolutely fine for many
tasks that that need some 3d/opengl support to work sanely (blender,
compiz, etc). Not the best for gaming certainly, but many, many, uses
of 3d have nothing to do with gaming.

Of course the (low-end!) intel cards in question also work great for 2d.
(something which you, bizarrely denied in a subsequent post).

[Note that the reason I know those apps "need" 3d support to work sanely
is because I've tried them on systems with a 2d-only card... not fun... :-]

-Miles

 

[pg]

Like what? The X3100 in my machine does just fine with Autodesk
Inventor; it certainly doesn't have any trouble with Word or Excel or
Visual Studio, etc. So, um, are you just trolling, perhaps?

For me, office apps means visual simulation and virtual conferences.
On board video chips just can't hack that.