ntldr error

[Guest]

Running a Compaq DL140 Win2k SP4 server. 512 RAM. One 80gb Maxtor drive.
Made some partitioning changes in disk manager.I then rebooted and now have
had the 'ntldr missing' message on startupfor several days now. Unable to
boot past it of course. Researched and found all the information re going to
the Windows2000 setup console and doing:
fixmbr c:
fixboot c:
copy <cd drive>:\i386\ntldr c:\
copy <cd drive>:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\
All of this goes well EXCEPT copying the ntldr. It tells me file cannot be
copied.

Here is what I've tried:
1)Upgraded the BIOS to most recent version (AMIBIOS)
2)Traded out the hard drive, reformatted and repaired as above with same
boot result.
3)Traded out RAM with new stick from vendor. Ran memtest with no erros.
4)Formatted new drive and successfully ran Win2000 on another machine. Put
it back in this one with ntldr missing result again.
5)Zero'd out disk with Maxtor utility and reformatted.

All these solutions I have found by researching other's experience with this
problem as well as Microsoft's reccomendations. I have not found any other
methods for repair. Does anyone know of something I'm missing here? Not
much left except the board or power supply.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

[Dave Patrick]

Try creating a boot disk. For the floppy to successfully boot Windows 2000
the disk must contain the "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows
2000 machine, not a DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the
floppy), and copy Windows 2000 versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini
to it. Edit the boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you
wish to boot. Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the
operating system located on the first partition of the primary or first
drive (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,1"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,2"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,1"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,2"

Another possibility is to try loading the controller driver also from
floppy. For the floppy to successfully boot Windows 2000 the disk must
contain the "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows 2000 machine,
not a DOS/Win9x, so the "NT" boot sector gets written to the floppy), then
copy ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the boot.ini to give it a
correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.

In order for this to work you'll want to change the arc path in boot.ini
from multi syntax to scsi syntax to indicate that Windows 2000 will load a
boot device driver and use that driver to access the boot partition. Then
also copy the correct manufacturer scsi driver to the floppy but renamed to
ntbootdd.sys


Something like this below;

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\windows
[operating systems]
scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,1"
scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,2"
scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,1"
scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,2"


--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Running a Compaq DL140 Win2k SP4 server. 512 RAM. One 80gb Maxtor drive.
| Made some partitioning changes in disk manager.I then rebooted and now
have
| had the 'ntldr missing' message on startupfor several days now. Unable to
| boot past it of course. Researched and found all the information re going
to
| the Windows2000 setup console and doing:
| fixmbr c:
| fixboot c:
| copy <cd drive>:\i386\ntldr c:\
| copy <cd drive>:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\
| All of this goes well EXCEPT copying the ntldr. It tells me file cannot
be
| copied.
|
| Here is what I've tried:
| 1)Upgraded the BIOS to most recent version (AMIBIOS)
| 2)Traded out the hard drive, reformatted and repaired as above with same
| boot result.
| 3)Traded out RAM with new stick from vendor. Ran memtest with no erros.
| 4)Formatted new drive and successfully ran Win2000 on another machine.
Put
| it back in this one with ntldr missing result again.
| 5)Zero'd out disk with Maxtor utility and reformatted.
|
| All these solutions I have found by researching other's experience with
this
| problem as well as Microsoft's reccomendations. I have not found any
other
| methods for repair. Does anyone know of something I'm missing here? Not
| much left except the board or power supply.
|
| Thanks in advance for your assistance.
|

 

[Guest]

Have looked into this but unfortunately, this model only comes with a cd and
no floppy drive. Know of a good ISO Windows2000 image? That's another of my
dilemas I forgot to mention.

Thanks again for the help.

Try creating a boot disk. For the floppy to successfully boot Windows 2000
the disk must contain the "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows
2000 machine, not a DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the
floppy), and copy Windows 2000 versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini
to it. Edit the boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you
wish to boot. Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the
operating system located on the first partition of the primary or first
drive (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,1"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,2"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,1"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,2"

Another possibility is to try loading the controller driver also from
floppy. For the floppy to successfully boot Windows 2000 the disk must
contain the "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows 2000 machine,
not a DOS/Win9x, so the "NT" boot sector gets written to the floppy), then
copy ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the boot.ini to give it a
correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.

In order for this to work you'll want to change the arc path in boot.ini
from multi syntax to scsi syntax to indicate that Windows 2000 will load a
boot device driver and use that driver to access the boot partition. Then
also copy the correct manufacturer scsi driver to the floppy but renamed to
ntbootdd.sys


Something like this below;

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\windows
[operating systems]
scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,1"
scsi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 0,2"
scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,1"
scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows 2000 1,2"


--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Running a Compaq DL140 Win2k SP4 server. 512 RAM. One 80gb Maxtor drive.
| Made some partitioning changes in disk manager.I then rebooted and now
have
| had the 'ntldr missing' message on startupfor several days now. Unable to
| boot past it of course. Researched and found all the information re going
to
| the Windows2000 setup console and doing:
| fixmbr c:
| fixboot c:
| copy <cd drive>:\i386\ntldr c:\
| copy <cd drive>:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\
| All of this goes well EXCEPT copying the ntldr. It tells me file cannot
be
| copied.
|
| Here is what I've tried:
| 1)Upgraded the BIOS to most recent version (AMIBIOS)
| 2)Traded out the hard drive, reformatted and repaired as above with same
| boot result.
| 3)Traded out RAM with new stick from vendor. Ran memtest with no erros.
| 4)Formatted new drive and successfully ran Win2000 on another machine.
Put
| it back in this one with ntldr missing result again.
| 5)Zero'd out disk with Maxtor utility and reformatted.
|
| All these solutions I have found by researching other's experience with
this
| problem as well as Microsoft's reccomendations. I have not found any
other
| methods for repair. Does anyone know of something I'm missing here? Not
| much left except the board or power supply.
|
| Thanks in advance for your assistance.
|

 

[Dave Patrick]

You might temp connect one to try. The only ISO's I know of are part of an
MSDN subscription.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Have looked into this but unfortunately, this model only comes with a cd
and
| no floppy drive. Know of a good ISO Windows2000 image? That's another of
my
| dilemas I forgot to mention.
|
| Thanks again for the help.