NTBackup.exe (from Windows XP)

[System Administrator]

Windows Vista Home Premium.

I have found a couple of articles on how to use NTBackup on Vista and
have been successful in doing Full backups on specified folders.
However, Differential backups don't seem to work. I need to perform
both types on a user's new Vista laptop. Upon installing NTBackup on
the user's laptop, I did a Full backup on selected folders. As a
test, I then attempted a Differential backup on the same folders.
What I obtained was another Full backup. Is this a known issue with
NTBackup on Vista? I would hazard a guess that the "Backup" file
attribute flag is not being reset upon performing a Full backup.
Thanks!

 

[Mary]

You really should not use NTBackup at all. Use the Backup included with Vista
or a third party utility instead. Most of the NTbackup articles are
instructions for transferring XP backups to the vista computer, not to use
them for future bu's. I bet if you tried to restore any of those backups,
they would fail.

 

[System Administrator]

Mary, why would a transferred XP backup (presumably using NTBackup's
restore) work on Vista using NTBackup and a newly created NTBackup
backup not restore?

 

[Dominic Payer]

Installing Ntbackup on Vista was intended only so that data could be
recovered from XP backups. Microsoft has issued a tool
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e2-8b69-4c65-afa3-2a53107d54a7&DisplayLang=en
to avoid the need to install Ntbackup.

Ntbackup is unlikely to work successfully on Vista because it knows nothing
about any detailed changes to the NTFS file system and in particular has no
knowledge of the Vista system structure.

If you want to backup your files in Vista, use the backup in your Vista
version or get a third-party backup program which is written for Vista.

 

[DarkSentinel]

Installing Ntbackup on Vista was intended only so that data could be
recovered from XP backups. Microsoft has issued a tool
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e2-8b69-4c65-afa3-2a53107d54a7&DisplayLang=en
to avoid the need to install Ntbackup.

Ntbackup is unlikely to work successfully on Vista because it knows
nothing about any detailed changes to the NTFS file system and in
particular has no knowledge of the Vista system structure.

If you want to backup your files in Vista, use the backup in your Vista
version or get a third-party backup program which is written for Vista.

It does work with Vista. However I don't use it to back up my system. I DO
use it retrieve archives made under XP.

 

[MICHAEL]

Ntbackup can be made to work just fine in Vista.
http://www.petri.co.il/installing_windows_xp_ntbackup_on_windows_vista.htm

However, I also recommend using third-party software
instead of Ntbackup or the built-in backup offered in Vista.
Use Acronis True Image. Image backups, file and folder backups.
So many more options than Vista's backup.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/index.html


-Michael

Installing Ntbackup on Vista was intended only so that data could be recovered from XP
backups. Microsoft has issued a tool
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e2-8b69-4c65-afa3-2a53107d54a7&DisplayLang=en
to avoid the need to install Ntbackup.

Ntbackup is unlikely to work successfully on Vista because it knows nothing about any
detailed changes to the NTFS file system and in particular has no knowledge of the Vista
system structure.

If you want to backup your files in Vista, use the backup in your Vista version or get a
third-party backup program which is written for Vista.

 

[System Administrator]

I thank everyone for their comments.

Michael, do you know if NTBackup Differential backups work on Vista?
As I mentioned in my original post, they don't seem to work. I
haven't been at a Vista machine since my original test, so I haven't
been able to confirm. Thanks.

Ntbackup can be made to work just fine in Vista.
http://www.petri.co.il/installing_windows_xp_ntbackup_on_windows_vista.htm

However, I also recommend using third-party software
instead of Ntbackup or the built-in backup offered in Vista.
Use Acronis True Image. Image backups, file and folder backups.
So many more options than Vista's backup.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/index.html


-Michael

 

[MICHAEL]

No, sorry I don't know.

Wish I could help more. I really only use Acronis True Image
for most of my backup needs.

Good luck.

Take care,

Michael

 

[System Administrator]

OK, Michael. Thanks!

No, sorry I don't know.

Wish I could help more. I really only use Acronis True Image
for most of my backup needs.

Good luck.

Take care,

Michael

 

[Tom Lake]

Ntbackup can be made to work just fine in Vista.
http://www.petri.co.il/installing_windows_xp_ntbackup_on_windows_vista.htm

I can't get it to work. All I get is an error stating that the Backup
Utility cannot
connect to the Removable Storage Service. I'm looking at the list of
Services and
RSS *is* started.

Tom Lake

 

[MICHAEL]

I can't get it to work. All I get is an error stating that the Backup Utility cannot
connect to the Removable Storage Service. I'm looking at the list of Services and
RSS *is* started.

Tom,

Removable Storage Management is different than what you
are looking at in Services.

Read the instructions, again.
http://www.petri.co.il/installing_windows_xp_ntbackup_on_windows_vista.htm

To turn on Removable Storage Management in Windows Vista:

Click the Start button > Control Panel > Programs, and then click Turn Windows Features on or
off.

Select the check box next to Removable Storage Management to turn the feature on, and then
click OK.


-Michael

 

[MICHAEL]

Tom,

Removable Storage Management is different than what you
are looking at in Services.

Read the instructions, again.
http://www.petri.co.il/installing_windows_xp_ntbackup_on_windows_vista.htm

To turn on Removable Storage Management in Windows Vista:

Click the Start button > Control Panel > Programs, and then click Turn Windows Features on or
off.

Select the check box next to Removable Storage Management to turn the feature on, and then
click OK.

Apologies, Tom.
After looking at what you wrote again, I am the one who is wrong.

My mind saw/read something else. Sorry.

Did you try restarting your computer?

Other than that, I don't know.

I don't use NTBackup on Vista anymore. I tried it awhile back
and it seemed to work fine.


Take care,

Michael

 

[System Administrator]

I was able to do some more testing on a Vista machine today. I have
determined that NTBackup Differential backups do, indeed, work.

The native Vista backup application does not meet our needs. We need
to do full and differential backups on selected folders. Thus the
need to use NTBackup.