Norton Ghost 9.0

J

Jack Gillis

I received an announcement from Symantec about the new Ghost 9.0. When
I looked into it, I found that it apparently requires .NET Framework to
run. I checked and I don't have it installed on my system at least
according to Add/Remove Programs. I am hesitant to install stuff
without checking up on it first.

Would someone please tell me what .Net Framework is and why perhaps the
new Ghost requires it? My old Ghost 2003 gets along happily without it.

Also, does anyone have any experience with Ghost 9.0?

Thank you very much.
 
L

Larry

I received an announcement from Symantec about the new Ghost 9.0. When
I looked into it, I found that it apparently requires .NET Framework to
run. I checked and I don't have it installed on my system at least
according to Add/Remove Programs. I am hesitant to install stuff
without checking up on it first.

Would someone please tell me what .Net Framework is and why perhaps the
new Ghost requires it? My old Ghost 2003 gets along happily without it.

Also, does anyone have any experience with Ghost 9.0?

Thank you very much.

More and more new software will be requiring .net framework. It is
included with the Ghost 9.0 install CD.

Ghost 9.0 has worked quite well for me. YMMV.
 
J

Jack Gillis

Larry,

I forgot to ask. Does Ghost 9 allow you to make a bootable recovery CD
rather than a floppy? My laptop doesn't have a floppy and I had to jump
through some hoops to create a bootable recovery CD.

Thanks again.
 
D

Don MI

The Norton Ghost CD is bootable.

Don

Jack Gillis said:
Larry,

I forgot to ask. Does Ghost 9 allow you to make a bootable recovery CD
rather than a floppy? My laptop doesn't have a floppy and I had to jump
through some hoops to create a bootable recovery CD.

Thanks again.
 
C

CS

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:32:12 -0500, "Jack Gillis"

Save your money and aggravation. Ghost is no longer Ghost..... The
new version 9.0 is actually Drive Image 7.X reboxed. That's why it
requires the bloated .NET Frame to run it.

Take a look at True Image 8.0 from www.acronis.com. It does not
require the .NET Frame to run, creates a nice Boot CD for recovery and
works with just about any hardware I've tried it on. Your choice of
course.....
 
J

Jerome M. Katz

Acronis True Image has major problems saving to DVD's. The only DVD's
it can use are those formatted for UDF which means they are
rewriteable, an unrealiable medium for backups.
 
J

Jack Gillis

Jerome M. Katz said:
Acronis True Image has major problems saving to DVD's. The only DVD's
it can use are those formatted for UDF which means they are
rewriteable, an unrealiable medium for backups.

Do these problems apply to plain vanilla CD-R's?
 
C

CS

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:22:17 -0500, "Jack Gillis"

True Image 8.0 will write to a CDR or CDRW directly without the media
first having to be formatted. And it will also write to a DVD+R or
+RW provided the media has been formatted UDF (packet writing) first.
An update to True Image 8.0 is forthcoming where it will write
directly to all DVD media without UDF.

I use True Image 8.0 to write to my external Maxtor USB 2.0 HDD which
I use for backup. The program has worked flawlessly for me. I also
have not had a problem with Ghost 2003 except that it will not
reliably write to an external USB 2.0 HDD.
 
A

Art

CS said:
I use True Image 8.0 to write to my external Maxtor USB 2.0 HDD which
I use for backup. The program has worked flawlessly for me. I also
have not had a problem with Ghost 2003 except that it will not
reliably write to an external USB 2.0 HDD.

CS:
My experience has been directly counter to yours with respect to the
reliability of Ghost 2003 writing to USB 2.0 external hard drives. I've
found the program virtually problem-free and extremely reliable.
I've used Symantec's Norton Ghost 2003 version to clone USB external hard
drives countless times (probably more than 100X), using a wide variety of
USB 2.0 EHD's and many different hard drives in USB external enclosures. I
routinely use a Ghost 2003
bootable floppy (on occasion a Ghost bootable CD) to perform the cloning
operation and I can't recall the last time I had any difficulty in doing so
that was attributable to the Ghost program. Whatever problems I've run into
were due to either defective USB enclosures or defective hard drives, not
the program itself. Similarly, I've not encountered a single problem with
the Ghost 2003 program in copying/moving files from an internal hard drive
to the USB 2.0 EHD.

It is true that earlier builds of Ghost 2003 did have problems cloning to
USB EHD's. Symantec released a patch to correct the problem sometime in
2003. The version you should be working with is Ghost 2003.793. If you have
an earlier build you can update it using Ghost's built-in Live Update
feature.

I've been using various versions of Symantec's Norton Ghost program for
about four years now. I find the program simple to use and effective in what
it does. For me that means cloning the contents of one drive to another
drive using the Ghost bootable floppy disk or Ghost bootable CD. I have
frequently remarked that I wish every software program I use (and will use)
was as simple to use, straightforward in design, and effective in what it
does as Ghost.
Art
 
J

John Doue

CS said:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:32:12 -0500, "Jack Gillis"

Save your money and aggravation. Ghost is no longer Ghost..... The
new version 9.0 is actually Drive Image 7.X reboxed. That's why it
requires the bloated .NET Frame to run it.

Take a look at True Image 8.0 from www.acronis.com. It does not
require the .NET Frame to run, creates a nice Boot CD for recovery and
works with just about any hardware I've tried it on. Your choice of
course.....
snip

I fully support recommending True Image, less expensive, less bloat and
does not require .Net, which I have found no use for so far.
 
J

John Butler

Yes, but Symantec arenow pushing Ghost 9 and that is a very different story.
In my experience Acronis True is a better program with very much better
technical support

John
 
A

Alex Nichol

Jack said:
I guess the downloadable version doesn't include it.

If you do not have it, it will be offered by Windows Update. It is
becoming increasingly used as a development platform, and sooner or
later will be needed
 
A

Art

CS said:
I use True Image 8.0 to write to my external Maxtor USB 2.0 HDD which
I use for backup. The program has worked flawlessly for me. I also
have not had a problem with Ghost 2003 except that it will not
reliably write to an external USB 2.0 HDD.

Art's response...
CS:
My experience has been directly counter to yours with respect to the
reliability of Ghost 2003 writing to USB 2.0 external hard drives. I've
found the program virtually problem-free and extremely reliable.I've used
Symantec's Norton Ghost 2003 version to clone USB external hard drives
countless times (probably more than 100X), using a wide variety of
USB 2.0 EHD's and many different hard drives in USB external enclosures. I
routinely use a Ghost 2003 bootable floppy (on occasion a Ghost bootable CD)
to perform the cloning operation and I can't recall the last time I had any
difficulty in doing so that was attributable to the Ghost program. Whatever
problems I've run into were due to either defective USB enclosures or
defective hard drives, not the program itself. Similarly, I've not
encountered a single problem with the Ghost 2003 program in copying/moving
files from an internal hard drive to the USB 2.0 EHD.

It is true that earlier builds of Ghost 2003 did have problems cloning to
USB EHD's. Symantec released a patch to correct the problem sometime in
2003. The version you should be working with is Ghost 2003.793. If you have
an earlier build you can update it using Ghost's built-in Live Update
feature.

I've been using various versions of Symantec's Norton Ghost program for
about four years now. I find the program simple to use and effective in what
it does. For me that means cloning the contents of one drive to another
drive using the Ghost bootable floppy disk or Ghost bootable CD. I have
frequently remarked that I wish every software program I use (and will use)
was as simple to use, straightforward in design, and effective in what it
does as Ghost.
Art


John Butler said:
Yes, but Symantec arenow pushing Ghost 9 and that is a very different
story. In my experience Acronis True is a better program with very much
better technical support

John


My understanding is that the Ghost 9 program includes a separate CD of the
Ghost 2003 program, presumably because the latter program is backwards
compatible with Win9x/Me while the Ghost 9 program is not. Am I correct
about this?

My exclusive use of the Ghost 2003 program is to clone one hard drive to
another for what amounts to a near-failsafe backup program. I perform the
cloning operation using a Ghost bootable floppy disk or should the computer
not contain a floppy drive, a Ghost bootable CD. I find no need nor
advantage to creating disk images to CD/DVD media. My sole objective (and I
would suspect this is the real objective of most users) is to easily and
effectively maintain a reliable backup system. I find I can easily
accomplish this using the Ghost 2003 program. The simplicity of using the
program holds great appeal for me. Just insert the Ghost bootable floppy
disk in the computer's floppy drive (or use the bootable CD) and boot up to
the Ghost program. A half-dozen or so keyclicks to select your source and
destination disks and the cloning process begins. It's simple, reasonably
quick, and effective.

Given the way I use the Ghost 2003 program in an XP environment, is there
any advantage for me to use the Ghost 9 program in lieu of the 2003 program?
Or, for that matter, using the Acronis True Image program instead?
Art
 
A

Alias

How does is compare to Acronis?

Alias

: : > I use True Image 8.0 to write to my external Maxtor USB 2.0 HDD which
: > I use for backup. The program has worked flawlessly for me. I also
: > have not had a problem with Ghost 2003 except that it will not
: > reliably write to an external USB 2.0 HDD.
:
: Art's response...
: CS:
: My experience has been directly counter to yours with respect to the
: reliability of Ghost 2003 writing to USB 2.0 external hard drives. I've
: found the program virtually problem-free and extremely reliable.I've used
: Symantec's Norton Ghost 2003 version to clone USB external hard drives
: countless times (probably more than 100X), using a wide variety of
: USB 2.0 EHD's and many different hard drives in USB external enclosures. I
: routinely use a Ghost 2003 bootable floppy (on occasion a Ghost bootable
CD)
: to perform the cloning operation and I can't recall the last time I had
any
: difficulty in doing so that was attributable to the Ghost program.
Whatever
: problems I've run into were due to either defective USB enclosures or
: defective hard drives, not the program itself. Similarly, I've not
: encountered a single problem with the Ghost 2003 program in copying/moving
: files from an internal hard drive to the USB 2.0 EHD.
:
: It is true that earlier builds of Ghost 2003 did have problems cloning to
: USB EHD's. Symantec released a patch to correct the problem sometime in
: 2003. The version you should be working with is Ghost 2003.793. If you
have
: an earlier build you can update it using Ghost's built-in Live Update
: feature.
:
: I've been using various versions of Symantec's Norton Ghost program for
: about four years now. I find the program simple to use and effective in
what
: it does. For me that means cloning the contents of one drive to another
: drive using the Ghost bootable floppy disk or Ghost bootable CD. I have
: frequently remarked that I wish every software program I use (and will
use)
: was as simple to use, straightforward in design, and effective in what it
: does as Ghost.
: Art
:
:
: : > Yes, but Symantec arenow pushing Ghost 9 and that is a very different
: > story. In my experience Acronis True is a better program with very much
: > better technical support
: >
: > John
:
:
: My understanding is that the Ghost 9 program includes a separate CD of the
: Ghost 2003 program, presumably because the latter program is backwards
: compatible with Win9x/Me while the Ghost 9 program is not. Am I correct
: about this?
:
: My exclusive use of the Ghost 2003 program is to clone one hard drive to
: another for what amounts to a near-failsafe backup program. I perform the
: cloning operation using a Ghost bootable floppy disk or should the
computer
: not contain a floppy drive, a Ghost bootable CD. I find no need nor
: advantage to creating disk images to CD/DVD media. My sole objective (and
I
: would suspect this is the real objective of most users) is to easily and
: effectively maintain a reliable backup system. I find I can easily
: accomplish this using the Ghost 2003 program. The simplicity of using the
: program holds great appeal for me. Just insert the Ghost bootable floppy
: disk in the computer's floppy drive (or use the bootable CD) and boot up
to
: the Ghost program. A half-dozen or so keyclicks to select your source and
: destination disks and the cloning process begins. It's simple, reasonably
: quick, and effective.
:
: Given the way I use the Ghost 2003 program in an XP environment, is there
: any advantage for me to use the Ghost 9 program in lieu of the 2003
program?
: Or, for that matter, using the Acronis True Image program instead?
: Art
:
:
:
:
 
M

Mike

More and more new software will be requiring .net framework. It is
included with the Ghost 9.0 install CD.
Ghost 9.0 has worked quite well for me. YMMV.

I have two 160GB drives formatted with NTFS. I would like to have a disaster
recovery scheme that would allow me to recover drive 1 from drive 2 using a
boot floppy. Will Ghost 9 allow one to make a image or clone (??) from drive
1 to drive 2 with NTFS format? Does it have to be done via a boot floppy? My
thought is to use Ghost 9 with the second drive as my primary backup scheme.
Opinions?
 
M

Mike

Ghost 9.0 has worked quite well for me. YMMV.

One other question. I have a Linux box and a laptop on the same LAN. Can Ghost
9 be used to image those devices to my backup drive?
 
J

John Butler

I had to give up Ghost 9 because of problems with the .netframework and use
Acorinis True image because it does not need it.

John
 

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