Non-flat negatives -- odd sizes as well

[P. Taine]

I've seen one (unansewerd) query on approximately this subject, but I guess I
have to try too.

I'm using Epson V700 photo scanner.

I have a lot of negatives which have a range of curl (non-flatness is you will).
Some are 35mm color and b&w negatives which have been rolled up for years (50 or
60 in some cases) and really don't want to be flat. Some are for or five frame
strips which are curled from side to side, enough that when put in a hold only
part (edge or center) is in focus.

A lot of the b&w negatives are odd sizes (there must be a dozen or so sizes)
which don't match any of the holders I have, and in many cases have little or no
margin, they are image right up to the edge.

I've been reading about ANR glass, but most of the users are combining this with
film holders, which would do for the 35mm. But, given the price of the glass, I
would rather not have to spend $100 for a set of strips for 33mm holders, and
another (about) $100 for a sheet to hold the other negatives down on the
serface.

So what advice does anyone have?

PS, Ive tried soaking and hanging some of the film (not color, as I've been
warned off photoflo in that case), but there hasn't been much effect.

 

[CSM1]

I've seen one (unansewerd) query on approximately this subject, but I
guess I
have to try too.

I'm using Epson V700 photo scanner.

I have a lot of negatives which have a range of curl (non-flatness is you
will).
Some are 35mm color and b&w negatives which have been rolled up for years
(50 or
60 in some cases) and really don't want to be flat. Some are for or five
frame
strips which are curled from side to side, enough that when put in a hold
only
part (edge or center) is in focus.

A lot of the b&w negatives are odd sizes (there must be a dozen or so
sizes)
which don't match any of the holders I have, and in many cases have little
or no
margin, they are image right up to the edge.

I've been reading about ANR glass, but most of the users are combining
this with
film holders, which would do for the 35mm. But, given the price of the
glass, I
would rather not have to spend $100 for a set of strips for 33mm holders,
and
another (about) $100 for a sheet to hold the other negatives down on the
serface.

So what advice does anyone have?

PS, Ive tried soaking and hanging some of the film (not color, as I've
been
warned off photoflo in that case), but there hasn't been much effect.

You can try plain window glass.
You may get Newton's rings, but you don't know until you try.

You can have your glass dealer cut you a plate of single strength window
glass the size that will fit inside the case of your scanner (You know, down
flat on the scanner platen.)

The size in not important, the glass should be easy to pickup from the
scanner platen.

Best is to use the film holders.
Most of the film holders I have seen will do a good job of flattening the
film.

 

[P. Taine]

You can try plain window glass.
You may get Newton's rings, but you don't know until you try.

You can have your glass dealer cut you a plate of single strength window
glass the size that will fit inside the case of your scanner (You know, down
flat on the scanner platen.)

The size in not important, the glass should be easy to pickup from the
scanner platen.

Best is to use the film holders.
Most of the film holders I have seen will do a good job of flattening the
film.

Thanks, I may try that. The holders were not good enough for the 35mm I tried,
the longitudanal center of the strip was bowed up enough that it was out of
focus. Further, as I commented, many of the negitives I have are odd sizes.

Cyril

 

[P. Taine]

You can try plain window glass.
You may get Newton's rings, but you don't know until you try.

You can have your glass dealer cut you a plate of single strength window
glass the size that will fit inside the case of your scanner (You know, down
flat on the scanner platen.)

The size in not important, the glass should be easy to pickup from the
scanner platen.

Best is to use the film holders.
Most of the film holders I have seen will do a good job of flattening the
film.

On a second thought, I might try anti-glare framing glass. That should have the
textured surface that is recomended on he ANR glass -- emulsion on scanner
glass, textured surface on top of the negative. With one of each surfaces not
being perfctly smooth there is less chance of rings. At least that is what I've
been lead to understand.

 

[tmonego]

I've seen one (unansewerd) query on approximately this subject, but I guess I
have to try too.

I'm using  Epson V700 photo scanner.

I have a lot of negatives which have a range of curl (non-flatness is youwill).
Some are 35mm color and b&w negatives which have been rolled up for years(50 or
60 in some cases) and really don't want to be flat.  Some are for or five frame
strips which are curled from side to side, enough that when put in a holdonly
part (edge or center) is in focus.

A lot of the b&w negatives are odd sizes (there must be a dozen or so sizes)
which don't match any of the holders I have, and in many cases have little or no
margin, they are image right up to the edge.

I've been reading about ANR glass, but most of the users are combining this with
film holders, which would do for the 35mm.  But, given the price of theglass, I
would rather not have to spend $100 for a set of strips for 33mm holders,and
another (about) $100 for a sheet to hold the other negatives down on the
serface.  

So what advice does anyone have?

PS, Ive tried soaking and hanging some of the film (not color, as I've been
warned off photoflo in that case), but there hasn't been much effect.

http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/models/vseries.html These folks
make a nice set of film holders for a V700, they also sell antiNewton
glass for Epson holders (as I read the ad). I haven't used them myself
as most of my negs have been stored flat and have minimal curl. But I
have looked at them for MF & 4x5 film.

Tom

 

[Bob AZ]

So what advice does anyone have?

PS, Ive tried soaking and hanging some of the film (not color, as I've been
warned off photoflo in that case), but there hasn't been much effect.

P Taine

There is some fluid to use to soak/wash negatives so they can be dried
flat after bad curling. Kodak has a site to ask about this. Also
Richard Koppnow (sp?) knows a lot about it.

Do a Google search using the following search words for the place in
Florida that sells AN glass. "antinewton glass florida"

Send your holder and he will cut the glass to fit.

Bob AZ