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bob
Is there any way to create a Csharp Console application that does not
require the user to have the .NET framework installed?
require the user to have the .NET framework installed?
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gabriel
bob said:Is there any way to create a Csharp Console application that does not
require the user to have the .NET framework installed?
Go to thinstall.com
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Cesar Garcia
yes...
if you're using Mircosoft Visual Studio, when you compile the solution,
you're generating MSIL Code in dlls...
when you run this code... JIT engine compiles it to a machine language, but
you lose portability, cause it will only runs in another machine with the
same configuration that yours.
i dont remember very well, but i think that u can use an utility named
nmake.exe that cames with the .Net Framework
Greetings
if you're using Mircosoft Visual Studio, when you compile the solution,
you're generating MSIL Code in dlls...
when you run this code... JIT engine compiles it to a machine language, but
you lose portability, cause it will only runs in another machine with the
same configuration that yours.
i dont remember very well, but i think that u can use an utility named
nmake.exe that cames with the .Net Framework
Greetings
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Erik Frey
bob said:Is there any way to create a Csharp Console application that does not
require the user to have the .NET framework installed?
See http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/csharp/faq/#framework.required
Erik
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gabriel
when you run this code... JIT engine compiles it to a machine
I don't see how this is relevant nor accurate.
what do you mean by "same configuration", and what do you mean by "lose
portability"? "Portability" refers to running on other platforms, .NET is
non-portable already.
language, but you lose portability, cause it will only runs in another
machine with the same configuration that yours.
I don't see how this is relevant nor accurate.
what do you mean by "same configuration", and what do you mean by "lose
portability"? "Portability" refers to running on other platforms, .NET is
non-portable already.
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Cesar Garcia
same configuration = same OS
loose portabilty = you cant run your app in another OS...
loose portabilty = you cant run your app in another OS...
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gabriel
Cesar said:same configuration = same OS
loose portabilty = you cant run your app in another OS...
Portability and .NET do not go int eh same sentence...
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Erik Frey
gabriel said:Portability and .NET do not go int eh same sentence...
See http://www.go-mono.com/
Erik
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Cesar Garcia
have heard about mono?
gabriel said:Portability and .NET do not go int eh same sentence...
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gabriel
Until Mono matures and can genuinlely be called ".NET for non-Windows" then
portability is not achieved.
I'm not being harsh on the Mono project, I'm just saying that .NET is not
portable yet.
Anyway it's a non-issue since "portability" refers to source code, not
binaries. We're talking about binaries here.
portability is not achieved.
I'm not being harsh on the Mono project, I'm just saying that .NET is not
portable yet.
Anyway it's a non-issue since "portability" refers to source code, not
binaries. We're talking about binaries here.
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Jared Parsons [MSFT]
I've compiled binaries on Windows and run them using Mono.
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Sam Gentile [MVP - C#/.NET]
That's right and so have many others. This discussion other than Jared's
post makes no sense as it does not reflect the internals of the CLR. The CLR
was designed to be multi-platform, multi-language, multi-type out of the box
and is. One only need look at the Rotor source code and docs to understand
this.
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post makes no sense as it does not reflect the internals of the CLR. The CLR
was designed to be multi-platform, multi-language, multi-type out of the box
and is. One only need look at the Rotor source code and docs to understand
this.
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Jared Parsons said:I've compiled binaries on Windows and run them using Mono.
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gabriel said:Until Mono matures and can genuinlely be called ".NET for non-Windows" then
portability is not achieved.
I'm not being harsh on the Mono project, I'm just saying that .NET is not
portable yet.
Anyway it's a non-issue since "portability" refers to source code, not
binaries. We're talking about binaries here.
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gabriel
Sam said:That's right and so have many others. This discussion other than
Jared's post makes no sense as it does not reflect the internals of
the CLR. The CLR was designed to be multi-platform, multi-language,
multi-type out of the box and is. One only need look at the Rotor
source code and docs to understand this.
Whatever. If you would like to re-define the question to fit your answer
go ahead. The OP asked the following question: "Is there any way to
create a Csharp Console application that does not require the user to
have the .NET framework installed?"
That's what I was answering by pointing the Op to a producer of software
that allows this to happen.
As to a phylosophical discussion of .NET source code portability vs IL
assembly "portability," we could have it, but it's outside the scope of
the original question.
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bob holder
Cesar Garcia said:have heard about mono?
Everytime I see this issue of .NET portability come up, someone throws mono
around. For a company to embrace .NET, it needs to be available EQUALLY on
Windows as well as Linux/Unix. Pushing mono was like MS pushing Win32s years
ago. It was a sloppy, buggy, incomplete bandaid. If you really wanted Win32
you needed to be on NT. Equally, if you want .NET you need to be on Windows.
bob
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Stoitcho Goutsev \(100\) [C# MVP]
Hi,
Yes, there is such a tool. But even compiled you do have to have .NET
installed. That is because before starting the compiled image the loader
check all versions, etc of referenced assemblies. What you actually do using
that tool is that you skip the JITter. But the rest of the work like
loading the assemblies, loading types, versioning, etc is done as with
normal .NET applications.
i dont remember very well, but i think that u can use an utility named
nmake.exe that cames with the .Net Framework
Yes, there is such a tool. But even compiled you do have to have .NET
installed. That is because before starting the compiled image the loader
check all versions, etc of referenced assemblies. What you actually do using
that tool is that you skip the JITter. But the rest of the work like
loading the assemblies, loading types, versioning, etc is done as with
normal .NET applications.
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William Stacey [MVP]
And why should they? Besides if you want it to be portable, load vmWare on
the Unix box and move your app over - Portable...No? <Just Kidding> If you
really want to write console apps and not use any framework or other MS
libraries, then why not just use GNU and vi/emacs, etc. AFAICT, you have
port issues in both directions. To get most unix programs to run on
windows, you need something like Cygwin (or other) right?
the Unix box and move your app over - Portable...No? <Just Kidding> If you
really want to write console apps and not use any framework or other MS
libraries, then why not just use GNU and vi/emacs, etc. AFAICT, you have
port issues in both directions. To get most unix programs to run on
windows, you need something like Cygwin (or other) right?
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Guest
when you run this code... JIT engine compiles it to a machine language, bu
The above comments are totally wrong, there is no such thing as nmake.exe, there is a utility called ngen.ex
which generates the native image of the assembly to speed up the application startup. But not somehow eliminate the need of .NET framework itself.
you lose portability, cause it will only runs in another machine with th
same configuration that yours
i dont remember very well, but i think that u can use an utility name
nmake.exe that cames with the .Net Framewor
Greeting
The above comments are totally wrong, there is no such thing as nmake.exe, there is a utility called ngen.ex
which generates the native image of the assembly to speed up the application startup. But not somehow eliminate the need of .NET framework itself.
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