no domain controller available

T

Tester

Hi there,
I am receiving a lot of messages 5719 in system viewer on an XP machine
on an NT4 domain that no domain controller is available; there are currently
no logon servers to service the login request. Make sure the machine is
connected to the network.
Machine is brand new Dell and domain has about 10 machines, NT4, W2K ,
XP-this is the first one
Although I have a PDC and a BDC for an NT4 domain.
Thank you,Calin
 
M

Mike Shepperd

Do you have an internal DNS server? Are all of your machines pointed to it?

Tell us more about the network configuration and DNS setup.

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Mike Shepperd
Sunfire Solutions LLC
Seattle, WA

[This posting is provided AS-IS, with no warranties and confers no rights]
 
T

Tester

Hi Mike,
Unix DNS from head office across the Wan, good link, local office NT4
domain with NT4/W2K/XP clients machine about 10 PCs.
Calin
Mike Shepperd said:
Do you have an internal DNS server? Are all of your machines pointed to it?

Tell us more about the network configuration and DNS setup.

--

Mike Shepperd
Sunfire Solutions LLC
Seattle, WA

[This posting is provided AS-IS, with no warranties and confers no rights]


Tester said:
Hi there,
I am receiving a lot of messages 5719 in system viewer on an XP machine
on an NT4 domain that no domain controller is available; there are
currently
no logon servers to service the login request. Make sure the machine is
connected to the network.
Machine is brand new Dell and domain has about 10 machines, NT4, W2K ,
XP-this is the first one
Although I have a PDC and a BDC for an NT4 domain.
Thank you,Calin
 
M

Mike Shepperd

Calin,

You mentioned that you're seeing the error in the event log. Are you able
to login with domain credentials, or are you logging in locally?
If you're able to login with domain credentials, go to a command prompt and
run "Set" then look to see what the logonserver value is.

Also, if you're able to do it, here is what I would do if I were on-site:

1. Plug a hub (not a switch) in between the problem computer and the DC's.
2. Plug in another computer on that hub and install network monitor or
ethereal (ethereal is best if you don't have access to netmon3)
3. Run the network analyzer on the monitoring computer while rebooting the
XP Client and logging in.
4. After the failure or successful login, stop the capture (make sure it's
got a big enough buffer ~10MB so you don't lose any data)
5. Look at the traffic coming from the client, see who it's contacting for
DNS, what referrals it's getting and where it's going.

From that information I can usually deduce what's going on.

If you can't put something like that together or can and don't see the
solution, let us know.

--

Mike Shepperd
Sunfire Solutions LLC
Seattle, WA

[This posting is provided AS-IS, with no warranties and confers no rights]


Tester said:
Hi Mike,
Unix DNS from head office across the Wan, good link, local office NT4
domain with NT4/W2K/XP clients machine about 10 PCs.
Calin
"Mike Shepperd" <newsgroups a t sunfiresolutions d o t com> wrote in
message
Do you have an internal DNS server? Are all of your machines pointed to it?

Tell us more about the network configuration and DNS setup.

--

Mike Shepperd
Sunfire Solutions LLC
Seattle, WA

[This posting is provided AS-IS, with no warranties and confers no
rights]


Tester said:
Hi there,
I am receiving a lot of messages 5719 in system viewer on an XP machine
on an NT4 domain that no domain controller is available; there are
currently
no logon servers to service the login request. Make sure the machine is
connected to the network.
Machine is brand new Dell and domain has about 10 machines, NT4, W2K ,
XP-this is the first one
Although I have a PDC and a BDC for an NT4 domain.
Thank you,Calin
 
M

Mike Shepperd

Will the XP Client use WINS by default when DNS doesn't work?

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Mike Shepperd
Sunfire Solutions LLC
Seattle, WA

[This posting is provided AS-IS, with no warranties and confers no rights]


"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
 
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Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]

NT4 DCs are not published in DNS like AD DCs are.

DNS will be used first and them NetBIOS (provided by WINS)

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Cheers,
(HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)

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Mike Shepperd said:
Will the XP Client use WINS by default when DNS doesn't work?

--

Mike Shepperd
Sunfire Solutions LLC
Seattle, WA

[This posting is provided AS-IS, with no warranties and confers no rights]


"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
for NT4 domains you need NetBIOS name resolution which for example is
provided by WINS

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Cheers,
(HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)

# Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
 
K

Kurt

Jorge said:
NT4 DCs are not published in DNS like AD DCs are.

DNS will be used first and them NetBIOS (provided by WINS)
And clients must be configured, either manually or via DHCP, to use the
WINS server.
 

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