No DNS resolution with ICS

[Stephan]

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In Stephan <[email protected]> posted their thoughts, then I
offered mine


From both machines, at a command prompt, type in:

net start <enter>

and post the results please.

Thanks



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Ace, Kevin,
please see below

Rgrds,
Stephan


PC-1:

C:\>net start
These Windows 2000 services are started:

Automatic Updates
AVSync Manager
COM+ Event System
Computer Browser
DHCP Client
Distributed Link Tracking Client
DNS Client
Epson Printer Status Agent
EPSON STM Service03
Event Log
Internet Connection Sharing
IPSEC Policy Agent
Logical Disk Manager
McShield
Messenger
Network Connections
Plug and Play
Print Spooler
Protected Storage
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Remote Registry Service
Removable Storage
RunAs Service
Security Accounts Manager
Server
SNMP Service
System Event Notification
Task Scheduler
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service
Telephony
Windows Management Instrumentation
Windows Management Instrumentation Driver Extensions
Workstation

The command completed successfully.


PC-2:

C:\>net start
These Windows 2000 services are started:

Automatic Updates
AVSync Manager
COM+ Event System
Computer Browser
DHCP Client
Distributed Link Tracking Client
DNS Client
Event Log
Logical Disk Manager
McShield
Messenger
Network Connections
Plug and Play
Print Spooler
Protected Storage
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Remote Registry Service
Removable Storage
RunAs Service
Security Accounts Manager
Server
System Event Notification
Task Scheduler
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service
Telephony
Windows Management Instrumentation
Windows Management Instrumentation Driver Extensions
Workstation

The command completed successfully.

 

[Stephan]

Kevin,

Then that pretty much answers my question, unless you have installed
something that has a DNS server in it then you don't have a DNS server.
Have you disabled any services?
Run the command Ace gave you in a command prompt: "net start" (without
quotes) and post the results. This will list the running services.

For the net start command results, please refer to my
reply to Ace's message.

Have you enabled packet filtering on any interfaces?
Are all ports open?
Packet filtering on interfaces cannot take the place of a good firewall
because it does not allow for port redirection for outgoing connections, and
you have to open too many ports to get functionality. I suggest you use a
firewall or get a good router that has a firewall.

No packet filtering installed, as far as I am aware. And
if all port are open: how do I test that, please?


Thank you, Kevin.

Regards,
Stephan

 

[Stephan]

-----Original Message-----
In Kevin D. Goodknecht [MVP] <[email protected]> posted their thoughts,
then I offered mine


Kevin, I don't believe he has DNS running on this box. If he did, he would
be getting the NATHLP error in his event viewer, which I think I asked him
if he was getting any errors. Kind of getting to be a long thread at this
point.

I hope he doesn't have DNS on this machine. That would be the cause of the
whole thing. I was somewhat assuming these are both Pro machines since he
wasn't even sure what I meant by "if AD is running".


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Ace,

To be honest, I did get a few error messages. Don't know
if they are relevant, but here they are:


On PC-1, There are two error messages that I get
frequently (like about each time the machine is booted)
- ID 3, Source cannot be found
- ID 7000, Legacy Modem Driver service failed to start

And today there was a new one that I hadn't seen before:
- ID 7011, Timeout on Dnscache

On PC-2, I get the same ID 7000 driver service errors, and
yesterday there were also these two warnings:
- ID 8021, The browser being unable to retrieve a list of
servers
- ID 3019, Failure of connection type determination


Full details, see below,


Regards,
Stephan


PC-1:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: HpSpdSys
Event Category: None
Event ID: 3
Date: 23/03/2004
Time: 10:43:38
User: N/A
Computer: VECTRA
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 3 ) in Source ( HpSpdSys )
cannot be found. The local computer may not have the
necessary registry information or message DLL files to
display messages from a remote computer. The following
information is part of the event: , Bad OS Version.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 02 00 56 00 ......V.
0008: 00 00 00 00 03 00 07 c0 .......À
0010: 00 00 00 00 83 01 00 c0 ....ƒ..À
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7000
Date: 23/03/2004
Time: 10:43:43
User: N/A
Computer: VECTRA
Description:
The Microsoft Legacy Modem Driver service failed to start
due to the following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is
disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated
with it.


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7011
Date: 23/03/2004
Time: 16:45:01
User: N/A
Computer: VECTRA
Description:
Timeout (30000 milliseconds) waiting for a transaction
response from the Dnscache service.



PC-2:


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7000
Date: 22/03/2004
Time: 21:44:04
User: N/A
Computer: ROTTERDAM
Description:
The Microsoft Legacy Modem Driver service failed to start
due to the following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is
disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated
with it.


Event Type: Warning
Event Source: BROWSER
Event Category: None
Event ID: 8021
Date: 22/03/2004
Time: 20:16:37
User: N/A
Computer: ROTTERDAM
Description:
The browser was unable to retrieve a list of servers from
the browser master \\VECTRA on the network
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7A34795B-8151-400B-92C4-
26092D21D4DD}. The data is the error code.
Data:
0000: 35 00 00 00 5...


Event Type: Warning
Event Source: MRxSmb
Event Category: None
Event ID: 3019
Date: 22/03/2004
Time: 21:51:33
User: N/A
Computer: ROTTERDAM
Description:
The redirector failed to determine the connection type.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 04 00 4e 00 ......N.
0008: 00 00 00 00 cb 0b 00 80 ....Ë..€
0010: 00 00 00 00 84 01 00 c0 ....„..À
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

 

[Stephan]

Ace,

I see what you mean about pinging. But, just for testing, did you alter that
reg entry to just see if it works? You can always *EASILY* change it back to
the original setting, just export that key, then save it as a .reg file. If
it doesn't work, then double click on that file and it will put it back in,
or just change it manually.

Ok... if you already tried it...

Haven't *YET*, but I will do later if you want me to - I'm
running out of time for today...

Trying to narrow this sucker down. Ok, let's try another tactic... are there
any services turned off on PC2?

Services such as:
DHCP Client Service
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service
Workstation Service
DNS Client service

Services; see my other reply: seems these are all there on
PC2.

On PC1:
Is File and Print sharing enabled?
Is there a personal firewall installed?

File and Print sharing enabled on both the Internect
Connection and the Local Area Connection of PC1 (Do I
really need that for the Internet Connection?).

Has this machine ever been infected, such as with the QHOSTS virus?
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/tr ojan.bootconf.html

Nope.

Just trying to look at all possibilities at this point. Maybe you can force
an IP to:
IP 192.168.0.100
mask 255.255.255.0
gate 192.168.0.1
DNS 4.2.2.2

Then try it again.

Tried this on PC2, no changes.. (i.e., can still ping IPs,
can't ping names and obviously if I nslookup it returns a
Can't find name for address 4.2.2.2: No response from
server, etc.)

Then switch it back to DHCP.

**PLEASE NOTE**: for PC1 I wasn't using DHCP, but a static
192.168.0.2 instead, as it refuses to obtain an IP address
dynamically (even though it had DHCP enabled). See the
resulting IPCONFIG below for PC1 in this case.

Do you have another machine, such as a laptop, then you can try and put up
on your network as well and see if that experiences the same thing? I'm
trying to narrow down if it's the workstation or your

machine set for ICS.


I understand. Would be nice, but haven't got that option
open easily..

Maybe even switch them around and try it?

Actually, first tried to install the modem on the other
PC, but in attempting so I was getting allsorts of nasty
driver problems (even after installing update drivers
supplied on request by my ISP, .. you can see all the
trouble I've been having with this USB modem, boo-hoo, -
even more so, now wish I started with a router modem in
the first place!!)

Heres a list of links dealing with ICF:
Microsoft Knowledge Base Articles dealing with Internet Connection Sharing
Issues ICS - InfiniSource, Inc. :
http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/ics-mskb.html

Thanks, will look into this later


Regards,
Stephan


PC-2 with the LAN properties set for obtaining IP and DNS
addresses automatically:

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Rotterdamned
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink
XL PCI TPO NIC (3C900
B-TPO)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-01-02-A0-16-
CF
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.221.148
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

In Stephan <[email protected]> posted their thoughts, then I
offered mine
<snip>

Ok, thanks for posting that, so it doesn't seem like you're running DNS
services.

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[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

In

Ace,



Haven't *YET*, but I will do later if you want me to - I'm
running out of time for today...



Services; see my other reply: seems these are all there on
PC2.


File and Print sharing enabled on both the Internect
Connection and the Local Area Connection of PC1 (Do I
really need that for the Internet Connection?).



Tried this on PC2, no changes.. (i.e., can still ping IPs,
can't ping names and obviously if I nslookup it returns a
Can't find name for address 4.2.2.2: No response from
server, etc.)




**PLEASE NOTE**: for PC1 I wasn't using DHCP, but a static
192.168.0.2 instead, as it refuses to obtain an IP address
dynamically (even though it had DHCP enabled). See the
resulting IPCONFIG below for PC1 in this case.




I understand. Would be nice, but haven't got that option
open easily..




Actually, first tried to install the modem on the other
PC, but in attempting so I was getting allsorts of nasty
driver problems (even after installing update drivers
supplied on request by my ISP, .. you can see all the
trouble I've been having with this USB modem, boo-hoo, -
even more so, now wish I started with a router modem in
the first place!!)



Thanks, will look into this later


Regards,
Stephan


PC-2 with the LAN properties set for obtaining IP and DNS
addresses automatically:

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Rotterdamned
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink
XL PCI TPO NIC (3C900
B-TPO)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-01-02-A0-16-
CF
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.221.148
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\>

Wow, what a mess! I have a feeling that either the PPPoE installation on
PC1 is corrupted or you shared the wrong interface or did it incorrectly and
saying this because DHCP is not working, otherwise you would not be getting
the APIPA (Auto Private IP Addr) of 169.254.x.x.

Did you share the correct interface or share it correctly or configure it
correclty? The external interface is what's needed to be shared.

The real way to test it is to get another computer or laptop on the network.
If it doesn't get a DHCP address, then obviously it's PC1 that's not
configured properly. But my feeling at THIS JUNCTURE is that PC1 is the
problem.

No, F&P and MS Client is NOT needed on the external interface.

Take a look at these XP articles. I know you have W2k, but they are very
similar...

316276 - How to Share a PPPoE Internet Connection with Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q316276

283070 - HOW TO Create a PPPoE Connection in Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q283070

Carrick Solutions Limited - WinPoet PPPoE (W2k and XP):
http://www.carricksolutions.com/winpoet.htm



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Ace

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[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

In Stephan <[email protected]> posted their thoughts, then I
offered mine
<snip>


This goes back to what I just posted above today. PC1's driver is NOT
configured properly and therefore ICS is not working due to it. Notice the
one main error (Event ID 7000, Source: Service Control Mgr) saying the
service failed to start? That's a HUGE red flag right there.

I would check the doco's on that and also check those links I gave you on
it, hopefully it will answer all your questions.

Or just get a DSL/Cable router and ask your ISP for a DSL modem with an RJ45
connection.

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