No 4x AGP

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Uwe Holter

Hi,

I have a Sapphire 9600XT Edition and an MSI K7N415 Pro Mainboard (nForce
Chipset), Latest BIOS updates and chipset drivers are installed. OS is
WinXP SP2; I use the latest Catalyst drivers.

Both graphics card and mainboard support 4x AGP.

In the SMARTGART tab of the control panel settings, it displays that my
card runs only at 1x AGP. I can move the lever to 4x, but after rebooting
the screen darkens once or twice and the setting is back to 1x.

Any ideas what goes wrong here?

TIA,
Uwe
 
A

Andrew

In the SMARTGART tab of the control panel settings, it displays that my
card runs only at 1x AGP. I can move the lever to 4x, but after rebooting
the screen darkens once or twice and the setting is back to 1x.

What does it say in the BIOS? It is no good changing it with the
drivers if the BIOS tells it to run at 1x.
 
U

Uwe Holter

Andrew said:
What does it say in the BIOS? It is no good changing it with the
drivers if the BIOS tells it to run at 1x.

Wow, what a quick reply!

The only BIOS settings that mention the three letters 'AGP' are "AGP
Aperture Size", set to '64 MB', and "AGB Bus Driver Control", set to
'Auto'. If set to 'Manual', I can choose between 'Weakest', 'Medium' and
'Strongest'.

I can't find a place to set 1x, 2x or 4x in the BIOS. Any suggestions how
the option could be named?
 
A

Andrew

I can't find a place to set 1x, 2x or 4x in the BIOS. Any suggestions how
the option could be named?

Not really. On my NForce2 based board I have an "AGP 8X Support"
option that I have to scroll down to get to.
 
B

Bill

Hi,

I have a Sapphire 9600XT Edition and an MSI K7N415 Pro Mainboard (nForce
Chipset), Latest BIOS updates and chipset drivers are installed. OS is
WinXP SP2; I use the latest Catalyst drivers.

Both graphics card and mainboard support 4x AGP.

In the SMARTGART tab of the control panel settings, it displays that my
card runs only at 1x AGP. I can move the lever to 4x, but after rebooting
the screen darkens once or twice and the setting is back to 1x.

Any ideas what goes wrong here?

TIA,
Uwe



All traces of any old video drivers removed before installing
new ATI drivers?



Bill
 
U

Uwe Holter

Bill said:
All traces of any old video drivers removed before installing
new ATI drivers?

I never had a different graphics adapter since I set up the OS -- I assume
one can safely install newer ATI drivers over older ones.
 
U

Uwe Holter

Uwe Holter said:
The only BIOS settings that mention the three letters 'AGP' are "AGP
Aperture Size", set to '64 MB', and "AGB Bus Driver Control", set to
'Auto'. If set to 'Manual', I can choose between 'Weakest', 'Medium'
and 'Strongest'.

Have now tried setting it to 'Strongest' and it worked! Seems that
'Weakest', 'Medium' and 'Strongest' just mean 1x, 2x, and 4x, respectively.
Would have been too easy to simply name them as such, eh?
 
B

Bill

Have now tried setting it to 'Strongest' and it worked! Seems that
'Weakest', 'Medium' and 'Strongest' just mean 1x, 2x, and 4x, respectively.
Would have been too easy to simply name them as such, eh?

Holey Moley! They ought to take the slug that thought that one up out
and pour salt on it.

Glad to see you got it going. Bet it makes a difference.

Bill
 
D

Derek Baker

Uwe Holter said:
I never had a different graphics adapter since I set up the OS -- I assume
one can safely install newer ATI drivers over older ones.

No. Uninstall the old ones and then reboot first.
 
S

some fatso

yeap, keep smoking it.

It's a myth. 99 % of the time, installing new ATI drivers over old ones
works fine. In fact, I'd be inclined to say 100%. But just in case
something goes wrong that's unrelated, I'll say 99 %.

When you install a driver, you copy files over old ones (at least in ATI's
case), unless some function call in a file is trying to reference anther
function in a file that was supposed to be deleted, you might have a
problem. But then there should have not been such a function call. If
there is one, then there is a bug in the new driver.

What happened to the days when people posted messages with knowledge that
was researched and not just assumed or heard.

This is the second time today I came across a post where somebody made a
statement he/she believed was true when it wasn't.

Listen, if you heard it somewhere, verify it first before you perpetuate the
garbage down the food-chain. BTW, reading about something many times
doesn't make it true. It's no different from being convinced that NASA
invented Velcro which to this day most people believe is true because one
day someone said so and people like you passed it on. I'm not saying that
you're intentionally full of it, just that it isn't true, and you should
study the subject in more detail before you un-educate others with your
flawed knowledge. This also goes for the rest of you who have been making
that exact statement for years.

And don't give me that bs about ATI ever saying that you should uninstall
the old driver before you install a new one. It's similar to MS saying that
you should reboot the OS after every install (back in win 98 days) when in
fact, for the most part, the OS would perform flawlessly without the reboot.
The re-boot is done just in case, because the programmer doesn't quite
understand the system he's developed so just-in-case rebooting does the job,
he'll recommend for the user to do so after he's done creating his
application

....I can already see the 'shit storm' coming my way. :)
 
C

Chuck U. Farley

And don't give me that bs about ATI ever saying that you should uninstall
the old driver before you install a new one. It's similar to MS saying
that

That's why ATI developed the uninstall utility, after all, the s/w engineers
don't have anythng better to do.

...I can already see the 'shit storm' coming my way. :)

Yeah, trolls love to wallow in shit, ya top posting moron.
 
L

Looker007

some said:
yeap, keep smoking it.

It's a myth. 99 % of the time, installing new ATI drivers over old ones
works fine. In fact, I'd be inclined to say 100%. But just in case
something goes wrong that's unrelated, I'll say 99 %.

When you install a driver, you copy files over old ones (at least in ATI's
case), unless some function call in a file is trying to reference anther
function in a file that was supposed to be deleted, you might have a
problem. But then there should have not been such a function call. If
there is one, then there is a bug in the new driver.

What happened to the days when people posted messages with knowledge that
was researched and not just assumed or heard.

This is the second time today I came across a post where somebody made a
statement he/she believed was true when it wasn't.

Listen, if you heard it somewhere, verify it first before you perpetuate the
garbage down the food-chain. BTW, reading about something many times
doesn't make it true. It's no different from being convinced that NASA
invented Velcro which to this day most people believe is true because one
day someone said so and people like you passed it on. I'm not saying that
you're intentionally full of it, just that it isn't true, and you should
study the subject in more detail before you un-educate others with your
flawed knowledge. This also goes for the rest of you who have been making
that exact statement for years.

And don't give me that bs about ATI ever saying that you should uninstall
the old driver before you install a new one. It's similar to MS saying that
you should reboot the OS after every install (back in win 98 days) when in
fact, for the most part, the OS would perform flawlessly without the reboot.
The re-boot is done just in case, because the programmer doesn't quite
understand the system he's developed so just-in-case rebooting does the job,
he'll recommend for the user to do so after he's done creating his
application

...I can already see the 'shit storm' coming my way. :)





No. Uninstall the old ones and then reboot first.
Troll ALERT!
PLONK!!
 
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P&S


Sorry 2 take so long to get back to u.

I have an Award too, 2004 BIOS.

Under "Avanced BIOS Features" there is a setting called "Flexible AGP
8x" and it will let me change from "Auto" to "4X".

If I press Ctrl-F1 at the Main BIOS screen, I get many more settings I
can change when I go to other screens. Advanced feature of Award
BIOSs.

Good luck. :)
 

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