NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?

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AlexB

Yes he never mentioned that he was an accountant. But if you check the
software he is concerned about, you can make an educated guess.

Also on a different tune, it occurred to me overnight that you can do a good
service to the community if you create a sample menu sort of the one you did
but more expanded (obviously there are many variations) and keep posting it
for such occasions again and again. I am talking about putting together a
totally new machine from spare parts, not necessarily new, they may be
refurbished. You should start with a case. I would love to see if you can
develop a sample with a rack mount. They look especially nice.

Some people may have very vague idea that it is doable. When someone tells
them, look, you can purchase it all on the web and the machine will cost you
about half of what you pay at a store, it may trigger some action.

I still have a rack mount 4-L case for a server sitting in my office. I've
been thinking filling it with semiconductors for more than a year. One thing
after another drags me away from it.

I am not lucky. I work hard for a living. I work 7 days a week and seldom
take a vacation.
 
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AlexB

Aha, here you are crustacean.

I have been waiting for you. I knew you would take a bait. You know, that
(e-mail address removed) character who is apparently familiar with
zoological classification suggested that you may be in fact a worm, not a
crustacean. He said: crustaceans are arthropod, not worms. It means that he
determined (sic!) that you were a worm but I had no prior knowledge of it. I
simply identified you as such based on incomplete information.

Let me take another look. That's right, you are an annelid!!!!!!!

All this makes perfect sense. You said that you wished I would become a ship
wreck, drown and gone to fishes. You actually said that I would be eaten by
WORMS (sic!) and fishes. I doubt you are so presumptuous as to identify
yourselves with the class of fishes. You knew all along who you are!!!

Now, your proper identity restored, I want to remind to you that your dream
of my dropping into your ocean's depth where you dwell and eating me was
foolish. If I am eaten by fishes and you, crawl up to take a bite that will
be your last bite, the worm MICHAEL will be no more. Fishes like worms and
never pass an opportunity to suction one in.

You, see idiot, you are an idiot all around.

I am surprised even among annelids there idiots. It is a huge discovery and
I should submit a paper to Science or Nature. You will make me famous and my
name will be mentioned in the Science Citation Index for the next hundred
years.

Unbeknown to you, little as*sh*ole with even a smaller brain your stupidity
affords incredible opportunity to make fun at your expense. Doctors
determined long ago that laugh is the best medication. Every time you post
something stupid at the tail of my post my health insurance bill declines by
a fraction of a percentage point.

Oh gush, stupid people are here to stay.
 
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DanS

Yes he never mentioned that he was an accountant. But if you check the
software he is concerned about, you can make an educated guess.

We're not here to make educated guesses (nor assumptions) about what a
poster does for a living.
Also on a different tune, it occurred to me overnight that you can do
a good service to the community if you create a sample menu sort of
the one you did but more expanded (obviously there are many
variations) and keep posting it for such occasions again and again. I
am talking about putting together a totally new machine from spare
parts, not necessarily new, they may be refurbished. You should start
with a case. I would love to see if you can develop a sample with a
rack mount. They look especially nice.

Some people may have very vague idea that it is doable. When someone
tells them, look, you can purchase it all on the web and the machine
will cost you about half of what you pay at a store, it may trigger
some action.

While I can't tell if what you have written above is supposed to be
sarcastic or not, I can tell that while it may sound like a promising
venture, it is not.

Assuming that the entire reason for doing the above would be to build
inexpensive computers to sell to people that don't have computers, a
*completely legitimate* business model selling complete systems made up
of spare/used/older parts simply does not work.

Much of the saving's by building a 'spare parts' computer is immediately
wiped out when you figure in the cost of buying the OS to put on said
computer. Sure, you can build a complete system of used parts for < $100,
but add a copy of Windows in there, and the cost goes up by $100.

When people ask me about building a computer for them, unless they want
to spend $1000 or more, I recommend buying one.

For instance, in the beginning of December, Dell had this deal on a
SlimLine Vostro 200 system. It came with a Pentium Dual-core E2180 CPU, 1
Gig RAM, 80 Gig HD, Windows XP Professional, AND a 17" LCD monitor. The
cost was $429. Not much more than building the same thing from new parts.
I still have a rack mount 4-L case for a server sitting in my office.
I've been thinking filling it with semiconductors for more than a
year. One thing after another drags me away from it.

Great. Did you mean a 4U case ? I already have a rackmount server in the
other room, that goes with the rackmount switch and rackmount UPS. I
bought it used in 2003 for $80 from a company liquidating equipment. The
server is mainly used for network storage and runs a couple of network
services.

This server originally had a PII-based MB, and worked fine for it's uses.
Two years ago I upgraded it from the PII to a dual PIII-667 Intel server
board, which I picked up for $20...WITH (2) 667 Mhz CPU's and fans.
 
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DanS

How much does it slow down your apps?

Well, if you have an app that doens't run in Vista at all, but are able
to run it in a virtual machine, running it in VPC doesn't 'slow it down'
at all.

Your question is mathmatically impossible, no matter which way you try to
figure it...using multiplication, multiplying by 0 always gives 0, and
you can't divide by 0, and 0 divided by anything = 0, so the answer is..


What an illogical question.
 
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DanS

Aha, here you are crustacean.

I have been waiting for you. I knew you would take a bait.

Beyond the shadow of a doubt, can not be argued by anyone,
undisputably.......

You have just labelled yourself a troll.

Troll.
 
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AlexB

I was not sarcastic at all. I meant it. I did not know the economics.

I do believe you are correct. In all your points.

Yes, it is 4U case. I bought it on eBay. I paid much more than you did but
it still was a saving at that time. It was a rash decision because I felt I
was about to start building it and needed the case tomorrow. I just checked
the prices. The new ones cost less than I paid for my eBay's although it was
also new, never used.

It is an ATX style 4U Deep 12 bay Rack Mount Case by General Technics
Industrial Rack Mount Computers.

Well, people do build computers. They may do it for instance because they
may not want to cough up a certain amount of money at once or still there
might be a saving or they may use a portion of an old system. I just thought
that if you could make such a prescription some individuals may benefit.

I was not thinking about a business. I was thinking that you can post such
templates for some people to have a starting point in their own adventure.
 
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AlexB

Yes, I am a troll, at least partially. I have said it in the past. But I
also do other good things. Also my trolling is for the right cause. People
who troll here on behalf of Ubuntu are the once to be ashamed of their
behavior.

It is a Vista forum. People of that Ubuntu/Linux/Left Wing/ and other bend
do not belong here. They must be disparaged and if they do not listen driven
away by ridicule. This is precisely what I am doing.

I always tell everyone involved: I take a complete responsibility for
everything I do. Therefore: I am a troll.

This crazy MICHAEL could have avoided that should he have abstained from
posting his unsolicited, untoward, nasty, idiotic, totally out of context
remark in the first place. He is scum.

If people keep their posting constrained to constructive matters I would not
have had a cause to snide. Also I am not a self-appointed morality police
officer around here. I don't give a damn. But as long as I am taking part in
some discussions I will bite a head off of anyone who is trying to cross me.
 
M

MICHAEL

AlexB said:
Yes, I am a troll, at least partially. I have said it in the past. But I
also do other good things. Also my trolling is for the right cause. People
who troll here on behalf of Ubuntu are the once to be ashamed of their
behavior.

It is a Vista forum. People of that Ubuntu/Linux/Left Wing/ and other bend
do not belong here. They must be disparaged and if they do not listen driven
away by ridicule. This is precisely what I am doing.

I always tell everyone involved: I take a complete responsibility for
everything I do. Therefore: I am a troll.

This crazy MICHAEL could have avoided that should he have abstained from
posting his unsolicited, untoward, nasty, idiotic, totally out of context
remark in the first place. He is scum.

If people keep their posting constrained to constructive matters I would not
have had a cause to snide. Also I am not a self-appointed morality police
officer around here. I don't give a damn. But as long as I am taking part in
some discussions I will bite a head off of anyone who is trying to cross me.

You won't bite anything but your upper lip when someone
goes "boo". Sissy boy.

Now, just STFU and move along.


-Michael
 
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SG

Hi AlexB

No slow down at all, it is independent of the operating system you install
it on. If fact you can install several Systems on VM 2007 and run them all
at the same time. One thing to make clear is you DO have to have a valid
license for is operating system you install just as if it was a new machine.
 
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AlexB

All my Vistas are licensed via MSDN Pro membership. Will I qualify? I think
probably so because I saw Virtual PCs download down there. Never paid much
attention, though.

It is very important info, thanks.
 
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Ron

You dont seem to be aware.. there has been considerable talk about this over
the internet

what I propose gives the best bang for the buck, since you actually get 2
versions of the same OS for the same money
or 2 birds with one stone. Of course you cannot run them at the SAME time
but you have more flexibility!

I am replying more for the readers and NOT you Doris.. you dont deserve a
reply
 
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AGreene156

We have an older Brother All In One. I called Brother and they have a Vista
Ready CD which we purchased for a nominal fee. You might contact them to see
if this would help you.
 

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