New Computer Woes - Crashing

N

Noone

I bought and built a new computer recently combining old stuff with a new
athlon 2800xp, msi kt600, large case, aero 7+ fan.

Every now and then the computer reboots itself and says it has "recovered"
from a serious error.

The message says it's something to do with product 768_1.

I went to Microsoft's Knowledge Base article and read that the drivers
should all read 5.1.2600.1 but most of my drivers read 5.1.2535.0.

Could this be a problem??? How do I update this?

Also I have a geforce/nvidia chip, does this create conflicts???

I just want a computer that works. WAAAAH :(

Temperatures: 50oC Idle/56oC Load (getting new thermal compound)
 
W

w_tom

Look at those numbers. Almost 40 degree below maximum
temperature. Have you been reading too many myths about
miracle Arctic Silver? If your heatsink is properly machined,
you don't even need thermal compound. Your CPU temperature is
'the Grand Canyon' away from overheating. Don't waste time
with thermal compounds. They are equivalent once one first
studies specification numbers.

You have hardware problems or driver problems associated
with that hardware (assuming this is some NT based OS such as
XP). Same OS as old system? Same power supply? What
changed? Somehow you are impressed by the less relevant
reasons for computer crashing (thermal compound and CPU heat)
and did not even do the very first thing to locate
intermittents.

Very first thing. What did the 3.5 digit multimeter read for
power supply voltages? What did the system (event) logs say?
What does Device Manager report? What does system
manufacturer diagnostic report (assuming manufacturer provided
what he is expected to provide)

Driver updates would be from the system integrator (if he
was doing his job) or from individual component manufacturers.
 
J

JAD

CAn you get to Cmos? change
'PNP OS installed' to NO
Rest Configuration Data to YES
Boot to safe mode if you can't get to desktop
check device manager for driver problems
rid device manager of ghost drivers of hardware that is no longer there
if you took the HD and just swapped it in the new MB, then thats your biggest problem, as a house built on a flakey foundation soon
falls.
 
S

Shep©

I bought and built a new computer recently combining old stuff with a new
athlon 2800xp, msi kt600, large case, aero 7+ fan.

Every now and then the computer reboots itself and says it has "recovered"
from a serious error.

The message says it's something to do with product 768_1.

I went to Microsoft's Knowledge Base article and read that the drivers
should all read 5.1.2600.1 but most of my drivers read 5.1.2535.0.

Could this be a problem??? How do I update this?

Also I have a geforce/nvidia chip, does this create conflicts???

I just want a computer that works. WAAAAH :(

Temperatures: 50oC Idle/56oC Load (getting new thermal compound)

If this is winXP switch of it's stupid,"Automatically Restart" option
as it may not be as critical a fault as it thinks and least you can
work whilst you sort it if it's not a hardware fault.
My computer/Right click/Properties/Advanced/startup and recovery.

Also,

Click "Start," then "Run."

type, CMD

At the DOS prompt, type SFC/SCANNOW

Hit the Enter key.

Select Scan for altered files



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N

Noone

w_tom said:
Look at those numbers. Almost 40 degree below maximum
temperature. Have you been reading too many myths about
miracle Arctic Silver? If your heatsink is properly machined,
you don't even need thermal compound. Your CPU temperature is
'the Grand Canyon' away from overheating. Don't waste time
with thermal compounds. They are equivalent once one first
studies specification numbers.

You have hardware problems or driver problems associated
with that hardware (assuming this is some NT based OS such as
XP). Same OS as old system? Same power supply? What
changed? Somehow you are impressed by the less relevant
reasons for computer crashing (thermal compound and CPU heat)
and did not even do the very first thing to locate
intermittents.

Very first thing. What did the 3.5 digit multimeter read for
power supply voltages? What did the system (event) logs say?
What does Device Manager report? What does system
manufacturer diagnostic report (assuming manufacturer provided
what he is expected to provide)

Driver updates would be from the system integrator (if he
was doing his job) or from individual component manufacturers.

But lower is better is it not! CPU longevity and all that?

Anyway i've got the thing working again by lowering the FSB and increasing
the mutiplyer. I must have overclocked it at some point and it didn't like
it. And so far so good; played a round of Generals zero:hour with no
problems.

It's now 166*12.5 instead of 185*11.

And yes, I am buying one of Arctic Silver's products. Namely their wonderful
(or so i'm told) Ceramique stuff
:)
 
H

Hank Oredson

Noone said:
I bought and built a new computer recently combining old stuff with a new
athlon 2800xp, msi kt600, large case, aero 7+ fan.

Every now and then the computer reboots itself and says it has "recovered"
from a serious error.

The message says it's something to do with product 768_1.

I went to Microsoft's Knowledge Base article and read that the drivers
should all read 5.1.2600.1 but most of my drivers read 5.1.2535.0.

Could this be a problem??? How do I update this?

Also I have a geforce/nvidia chip, does this create conflicts???

I just want a computer that works. WAAAAH :(

Temperatures: 50oC Idle/56oC Load (getting new thermal compound)


You need need to update your device drivers.

Trying to run XP with drivers from an earlier
version of Windows usually does not work very well.

This explains what to do:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=316424

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Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net
 
A

Ancra

Anyway i've got the thing working again by lowering the FSB and increasing
the mutiplyer. I must have overclocked it at some point and it didn't like
it. And so far so good; played a round of Generals zero:hour with no
problems.

You did the right thing.
It's now 166*12.5 instead of 185*11.

This means your 'external clock' aka 'FSB clock' runs at 166MHz, and
your FSB at 333MHz, which is maximum supported by your cpu.

What speed are you running the memorybus on? If I may be so curious.
Auto?


ancra
 
N

Noone

Ancra said:
You did the right thing.


This means your 'external clock' aka 'FSB clock' runs at 166MHz, and
your FSB at 333MHz, which is maximum supported by your cpu.

What speed are you running the memorybus on? If I may be so curious.
Auto?


ancra

Yes it's auto. The RAM itself is DDR 400 but I suppose it will just be DDR
333 it can manage. I don't suppose manually setting it to 333 in the bios
would make much difference?
 

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