New AV emergency utility

[null]

Why are you updating the def files with a bat file, why not use the
kavupd.exe which seems to work without problems?

Here's a simple manual procedure:

1. Create a new folder C:\Downloads
2. Download MSAV.EXE into a different download folder from:

http://www.mwti.net/antivirus/free_utilities.asp

3. Using Winzip or Power Archiver or whatever, extract the files
from MWAV.EXE to C:\Downloads

4. Update using C:\Downloads\KAVUPD.EXE
5. Run av program C:\Downloads\MWAVSCAN.EXE

Do not use any but the default setting of the av program because of
the danger of false alerts and deletes. It's sufficient for a
emergency or backup av to just scan the system area.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Roger Johansson]

No, or I would have used it. It creates a folder named Downloads and
puts the def in it. I didn't want to use a folder with that name since
it might well conflict with an existing folder by that name.

If you want to use it that way, you'll have to copy the def files from
c:\Downloads to c:\mwavscan

That works for me. Maybe I will write a bat file which runs the updater
and then moves the files from c:\Downloads to c:\mwavscan.

Such a bat file is much less prone to errors than bat files which use
wget.exe and is dependent upon internet connections and ftp servers far
away.

By the way, you asked if I am on a dial-up connection.
No, I have a cable connection.
But I don't need to use wget now so the problems with wget may wait for
another day.

 

[null]

That works for me. Maybe I will write a bat file which runs the updater
and then moves the files from c:\Downloads to c:\mwavscan.

See my manual procedure in a different post. No need for any batch
files or copying.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Roger Johansson]

Here's a simple manual procedure:

1. Create a new folder C:\Downloads
2. Download MSAV.EXE into a different download folder from:
http://www.mwti.net/antivirus/free_utilities.asp

3. Using Winzip or Power Archiver or whatever, extract the files
from MWAV.EXE to C:\Downloads

4. Update using C:\Downloads\KAVUPD.EXE
5. Run av program C:\Downloads\MWAVSCAN.EXE

Do not use any but the default setting of the av program because of
the danger of false alerts and deletes. It's sufficient for a
emergency or backup av to just scan the system area.

I think this is a good method.
C:\Downloads is not used by any other program, as far as I know, so the
risk of the folder being used by another program is very low.

 

[null]

I think this is a good method.
C:\Downloads is not used by any other program, as far as I know, so the
risk of the folder being used by another program is very low.

Good, since I've already put the manual procudure up at my web site as
an alternative


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Roy]

Done this, but it doesn't help.
Wget still gets stuck, after logging in successfully it stops at the
list command, waiting for a minute or so.
It ends with this message:
Error in server response, retrying. And it starts all over again.

I get exactly the same result on my XP machine but, ironically, it works OK
on my W98se machine - except it sprays the resultant downloaded files all
over my C drive.

The application itself is very interesting, and seems very thorough. I
deliberately ran it to scan all files, two drives, and after the first
56,000 files or so, took rather more than an hour to do those, I gave up
watching and timing.

My *big* complaint, however, is that I could find no way of stopping it
renaming suspicious files (not a problem), or deleting those it considered
definitely viral. The latter is a *big* problem, since it thought it had
detected a virus in several text files (which I know were completely free
of any malware) and proceeded to delete them without a by your leave! No
trace of them in the recycle bin and, presumably, no chance of recovery.

Luckily the files were expendable, but I'm not going to run this on my main
machine where most of the stuff matters.

Pretty dangerous behaviour, is this WAD?

Cheers,

Roy

 

[Roger Johansson]

I get exactly the same result on my XP machine but, ironically, it works OK
on my W98se machine - except it sprays the resultant downloaded files all
over my C drive.

So it is not a certain operative system which causes this problem with
wget. I have tried it on win98 and win98se, it doesn't work in either
for me. I wonder what makes it work for some people and not for others.

The application itself is very interesting, and seems very thorough. I
deliberately ran it to scan all files, two drives, and after the first
56,000 files or so, took rather more than an hour to do those, I gave up
watching and timing.

My *big* complaint, however, is that I could find no way of stopping it
renaming suspicious files (not a problem), or deleting those it considered
definitely viral. The latter is a *big* problem, since it thought it had
detected a virus in several text files (which I know were completely free

Did it scan .txt files in spite of being set to scan only program files,
or did you change the default settings to include text files?

of any malware) and proceeded to delete them without a by your leave! No
trace of them in the recycle bin and, presumably, no chance of recovery.

So we need to backup partitions/folders before scanning, or find another
way..

Luckily the files were expendable, but I'm not going to run this on my main
machine where most of the stuff matters.

Pretty dangerous behaviour, is this WAD?

There are a couple of config files in the program directory, I wonder if
they could be used to change the delete behaviour into something safer?

 

[null]

I get exactly the same result on my XP machine but, ironically, it works OK
on my W98se machine - except it sprays the resultant downloaded files all
over my C drive.

Weird. Never had that kind of feedback/report/complaint on any updater
programs I've designed using wget.

The application itself is very interesting, and seems very thorough. I
deliberately ran it to scan all files, two drives, and after the first
56,000 files or so, took rather more than an hour to do those, I gave up
watching and timing.

My *big* complaint, however, is that I could find no way of stopping it
renaming suspicious files (not a problem), or deleting those it considered
definitely viral. The latter is a *big* problem, since it thought it had
detected a virus in several text files (which I know were completely free
of any malware) and proceeded to delete them without a by your leave! No
trace of them in the recycle bin and, presumably, no chance of recovery.

I've included a warning now at my web site to only use the scanner
with its default setting to scan just the system area. I was concerned
about the false alarm problem from the beginning. You never set a
scanner to delete before you find out what's going on.

The text file alerts/deletes strike me as extremely odd. I've been
using versions of KAV for many years, and I've never seen anything
like that. KAV has been the most reliable av scanner I've ever used
and evaluated. Microworld may have screwed it up somehow.

If these kinds of reports keep on coming in, I'll withdraw the
utility. It's a shame since I was so enthused over the idea of a top
notch GUI on-demand scanner for free that people could use as a backup
and emergency scanner. Oh well


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Roy]

Did it scan .txt files in spite of being set to scan only program files,
or did you change the default settings to include text files?

I'd told it to scan all files, as I wished to see just how thorough it
would be.

As I said previously, I wouldn't have risked this on my main machine as
there was no indication of what this application would do with whatever it
found - or thought that it had found.

Cheers,

Roy

 

[Roger Johansson]

I'd told it to scan all files, as I wished to see just how thorough it
would be.

As I said previously, I wouldn't have risked this on my main machine as
there was no indication of what this application would do with whatever it
found - or thought that it had found.

This is not a problem as far as I can see, because I see no reason to
scan other files, program files are the only files I need to scan.

If a program file would be deleted automatically it is no big loss,
compared to data files I want to keep.