Networking w/ Router

[Guest]

I have set up a home network with a router. I am running a cable modem to a
router connecting 3 computers(2 ME and 1 XP). The 2 ME computers are seeing
the whole network, but the XP only sees itself nothing else. All have
internet access and can ping each other fine. I have went to practically
networked and set the network settings but doesn't help. Does any one know
how to or have a web-site that goes through all the settings on all the
protocols and computer/network settings to go by so I can get the XP to join
the network. Thank you

 

[Malke]

I have set up a home network with a router. I am running a cable
modem to a
router connecting 3 computers(2 ME and 1 XP). The 2 ME computers are
seeing
the whole network, but the XP only sees itself nothing else. All have
internet access and can ping each other fine. I have went to
practically
networked and set the network settings but doesn't help. Does any one
know how to or have a web-site that goes through all the settings on
all the protocols and computer/network settings to go by so I can get
the XP to join
the network. Thank you

Here's a network troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna to go through.
It will help pinpoint the source of the problem. I'll give you some
other links, too.

Remember, you need to create identical user accounts and passwords on
all machines and share out resources. Make sure that all firewalls are
configured to allow lan traffic.

http://www.michna.com/kb/wxnet.htm
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/filesharing.htm (Home)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/howto/
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/addxp.htm - Adding XP to
an existing network

That should get you started.

Malke

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Here's a network troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna to go through.
It will help pinpoint the source of the problem. I'll give you some
other links, too.

Remember, you need to create identical user accounts and passwords on
all machines and share out resources.

Hi, Malke. Identical user accounts are only needed when trying to
access a computer that has XP Pro, and only when you've explicitly
disabled simple file sharing on XP Pro. Identical user accounts
aren't needed to access computers that have ME or XP Home Edition.

However, when computers can't even see each other, like Bill reports,
the problem is at a lower level than user accounts.

Make sure that all firewalls are configured to allow lan traffic.

Yes! Some other things to check, too:

1. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053

http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/filesharing.htm (Home)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/howto/
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/addxp.htm - Adding XP to
an existing network

That should get you started.

--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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[Guest]

Does it matter which computer is the host?

Hi, Malke. Identical user accounts are only needed when trying to
access a computer that has XP Pro, and only when you've explicitly
disabled simple file sharing on XP Pro. Identical user accounts
aren't needed to access computers that have ME or XP Home Edition.

However, when computers can't even see each other, like Bill reports,
the problem is at a lower level than user accounts.


Yes! Some other things to check, too:

1. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053

--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Does it matter which computer is the host?

I'm not sure what you mean by "host", Bill.

Since your computers connect to a router for Internet access, none of
them is an Internet host.

All of the computers on a home network (peer-to-peer) are equal. They
can share their disks and folders with other computers, and they can
access shared disks and folders belonging to other computers.

An XP Pro computer that shares its disks and folders with other
computers requires matching user accounts on the other computers if,
and only if, you've explicitly disabled simple file sharing on XP Pro.
But enabling or disabling simple file sharing doesn't prevent other
computers from seeing XP Pro, and it doesn't prevent XP Pro from
seeing the other computers.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Malke]

Hi, Malke. Identical user accounts are only needed when trying to
access a computer that has XP Pro, and only when you've explicitly
disabled simple file sharing on XP Pro. Identical user accounts
aren't needed to access computers that have ME or XP Home Edition.

Thanks, Steve. I've made a note of it. I appreciate the correction.

Best,

Malke

 

[Guest]

My node type says unknown. What does that mean? Also, can I use only TCP/IP
or do I need IPX/SPX installed as well?

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

My node type says unknown. What does that mean?

I'm not sure what causes the "unknown" node type. I see it on
computers on my network, too. It's OK.

Also, can I use only TCP/IP or do I need IPX/SPX installed as well?

You can use only TCP/IP. There's no reason to install IPX/SPX on
computers that connect to the Internet through a home broadband
router.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Eric Cross [MVP]]

See this MS KB Article.

"Ipconfig /All" Command Shows the Node Type as Unknown
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310570

_______________
Eric Cross
Microsoft MVP (Windows Networking)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Carey Holzman]

Follow these easy steps to get everything working correctly:

www.careyholzman.com/net1.htm

Then let us know the results!

Thanks!
Carey