Netlogon service problem

D

danieltan

In my event viewer i noticed that netlogon services has problem. It
started first and then followed by dns, which is incorrect sequence.
The event id in event viewer is 5781. The error is as below. Currently
i'm using Win2000 AD domain and dynamic update. I've refered to
article Q193888 which describe this problem , but don't quite
understand how to solve this. I also have dcdiag and netdiag result.
Below are the results. Anyone pls advise. Thanks

"Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records
failed because no DNS servers are available. "

Computer Name: MP419B
DNS Host Name: mp419b.mp420.afraid.org
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)
Processor : x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel
List of installed hotfixes :
Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
Per interface results:
Adapter : Local Area Connection
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server. . . . : 192.168.1.2
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
192.168.1.2
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Passed
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
WINS service test. . . . . : Passed

Adapter : {E6036B1E-8CBF-43C8-A98B-AEAFC810EE75}
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway. . . . . . :
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Skipped
[WARNING] No gateways defined for this adapter.
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
No remote names have been found.


DC Diagnosis
Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.
Doing initial non skippeable tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Connectivity
......................... MP419B passed test Connectivity
Doing primary tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Replications
......................... MP419B passed test Replications
Starting test: NCSecDesc
......................... MP419B passed test NCSecDesc
Starting test: NetLogons
......................... MP419B passed test NetLogons
Starting test: Advertising
......................... MP419B passed test Advertising
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
......................... MP419B passed test
KnowsOfRoleHolders
Starting test: RidManager
......................... MP419B passed test RidManager
Starting test: MachineAccount
......................... MP419B passed test MachineAccount
Starting test: Services
......................... MP419B passed test Services
Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
......................... MP419B passed test ObjectsReplicated

Starting test: frssysvol
......................... MP419B passed test frssysvol
Starting test: kccevent
......................... MP419B passed test kccevent
Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0xC0001B72
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:20:47
Event String: The following boot-start or system-start
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:24:17
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:32:18
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:51:46
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
......................... MP419B failed test systemlog
Running enterprise tests on : mp420.afraid.org
Starting test: Intersite
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
FsmoCheck
 
P

ptwilliams

That's just because DNS hadn't loaded properly and Netlogon tried to
reregister it's SRV records in DNS.

You can safely ignore this. Netlogon will attempt to, and succeed,
reregister later.

You can play around with the order that services start in the registry to
stop this from happening - I've done this in the past, but there's really no
need. However, if like I used to be, you hate seeing errors in the logs,
then make netlogon depend on w32time. You do this by navigating to:

HKLM\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Netlogon

And editing the REG_MULTI_SZ value. You should add, w32time and press
return (there has to be a line underneath the last string).

Note. In Win2000, you'll need to use reged32 as regedit can't do
REG_MULTI_SZ.


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net
http://forums.msresource.net


In my event viewer i noticed that netlogon services has problem. It
started first and then followed by dns, which is incorrect sequence.
The event id in event viewer is 5781. The error is as below. Currently
i'm using Win2000 AD domain and dynamic update. I've refered to
article Q193888 which describe this problem , but don't quite
understand how to solve this. I also have dcdiag and netdiag result.
Below are the results. Anyone pls advise. Thanks

"Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records
failed because no DNS servers are available. "

Computer Name: MP419B
DNS Host Name: mp419b.mp420.afraid.org
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)
Processor : x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel
List of installed hotfixes :
Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
Per interface results:
Adapter : Local Area Connection
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server. . . . : 192.168.1.2
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
192.168.1.2
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Passed
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
WINS service test. . . . . : Passed

Adapter : {E6036B1E-8CBF-43C8-A98B-AEAFC810EE75}
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway. . . . . . :
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Skipped
[WARNING] No gateways defined for this adapter.
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
No remote names have been found.


DC Diagnosis
Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.
Doing initial non skippeable tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Connectivity
......................... MP419B passed test Connectivity
Doing primary tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Replications
......................... MP419B passed test Replications
Starting test: NCSecDesc
......................... MP419B passed test NCSecDesc
Starting test: NetLogons
......................... MP419B passed test NetLogons
Starting test: Advertising
......................... MP419B passed test Advertising
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
......................... MP419B passed test
KnowsOfRoleHolders
Starting test: RidManager
......................... MP419B passed test RidManager
Starting test: MachineAccount
......................... MP419B passed test MachineAccount
Starting test: Services
......................... MP419B passed test Services
Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
......................... MP419B passed test ObjectsReplicated

Starting test: frssysvol
......................... MP419B passed test frssysvol
Starting test: kccevent
......................... MP419B passed test kccevent
Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0xC0001B72
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:20:47
Event String: The following boot-start or system-start
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:24:17
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:32:18
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:51:46
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
......................... MP419B failed test systemlog
Running enterprise tests on : mp420.afraid.org
Starting test: Intersite
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
FsmoCheck
 
D

danieltan

Paul, what causes this to happen ? Isn;t that all the services will be
loaded sequentially one b4 another ?

Rgds
Daniel
 
R

Ryan Hanisco

Paul,

Is there a problem here because the DC also has a NIC with a different IP
address with the loopback as its DNS server. If it is trying to register
the SRV records through that NIC too, it may not find a DNS server listening
on that IP address.

thoughts??

--
Ryan Hanisco
MCSE, MCDBA
FlagShip Integration Services

ptwilliams said:
That's just because DNS hadn't loaded properly and Netlogon tried to
reregister it's SRV records in DNS.

You can safely ignore this. Netlogon will attempt to, and succeed,
reregister later.

You can play around with the order that services start in the registry to
stop this from happening - I've done this in the past, but there's really
no
need. However, if like I used to be, you hate seeing errors in the logs,
then make netlogon depend on w32time. You do this by navigating to:

HKLM\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Netlogon

And editing the REG_MULTI_SZ value. You should add, w32time and press
return (there has to be a line underneath the last string).

Note. In Win2000, you'll need to use reged32 as regedit can't do
REG_MULTI_SZ.


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net
http://forums.msresource.net


In my event viewer i noticed that netlogon services has problem. It
started first and then followed by dns, which is incorrect sequence.
The event id in event viewer is 5781. The error is as below. Currently
i'm using Win2000 AD domain and dynamic update. I've refered to
article Q193888 which describe this problem , but don't quite
understand how to solve this. I also have dcdiag and netdiag result.
Below are the results. Anyone pls advise. Thanks

"Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records
failed because no DNS servers are available. "

Computer Name: MP419B
DNS Host Name: mp419b.mp420.afraid.org
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)
Processor : x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel
List of installed hotfixes :
Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
Per interface results:
Adapter : Local Area Connection
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server. . . . : 192.168.1.2
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
192.168.1.2
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Passed
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
WINS service test. . . . . : Passed

Adapter : {E6036B1E-8CBF-43C8-A98B-AEAFC810EE75}
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway. . . . . . :
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Skipped
[WARNING] No gateways defined for this adapter.
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
No remote names have been found.


DC Diagnosis
Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.
Doing initial non skippeable tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Connectivity
......................... MP419B passed test Connectivity
Doing primary tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Replications
......................... MP419B passed test Replications
Starting test: NCSecDesc
......................... MP419B passed test NCSecDesc
Starting test: NetLogons
......................... MP419B passed test NetLogons
Starting test: Advertising
......................... MP419B passed test Advertising
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
......................... MP419B passed test
KnowsOfRoleHolders
Starting test: RidManager
......................... MP419B passed test RidManager
Starting test: MachineAccount
......................... MP419B passed test MachineAccount
Starting test: Services
......................... MP419B passed test Services
Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
......................... MP419B passed test ObjectsReplicated

Starting test: frssysvol
......................... MP419B passed test frssysvol
Starting test: kccevent
......................... MP419B passed test kccevent
Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0xC0001B72
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:20:47
Event String: The following boot-start or system-start
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:24:17
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:32:18
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:51:46
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
......................... MP419B failed test systemlog
Running enterprise tests on : mp420.afraid.org
Starting test: Intersite
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
FsmoCheck
Click to expand...
 
P

ptwilliams

Yes, good point. I've noticed that although some people say to use the
loopback interface, it doesn't always work properly and can cause issues.
Hadn't thought about not listening -that could be the case, but the user
would have to have changed the DNS server to only listen on a certain IP.
Although I've come across this issue with boxes pointing to their correct IP
address too.

This does beg the question however, of the purpose of that second NIC?

Daniel, what are you using the two NICs for? Don't get me wrong, there's
nothing wrong with this -it just can cause confusion and issues when you're
not expecting it if it's not done properly...


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/

Paul,

Is there a problem here because the DC also has a NIC with a different IP
address with the loopback as its DNS server. If it is trying to register
the SRV records through that NIC too, it may not find a DNS server listening
on that IP address.

thoughts??

--
Ryan Hanisco
MCSE, MCDBA
FlagShip Integration Services

ptwilliams said:
That's just because DNS hadn't loaded properly and Netlogon tried to
reregister it's SRV records in DNS.

You can safely ignore this. Netlogon will attempt to, and succeed,
reregister later.

You can play around with the order that services start in the registry to
stop this from happening - I've done this in the past, but there's really
no
need. However, if like I used to be, you hate seeing errors in the logs,
then make netlogon depend on w32time. You do this by navigating to:

HKLM\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Netlogon

And editing the REG_MULTI_SZ value. You should add, w32time and press
return (there has to be a line underneath the last string).

Note. In Win2000, you'll need to use reged32 as regedit can't do
REG_MULTI_SZ.


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net
http://forums.msresource.net


In my event viewer i noticed that netlogon services has problem. It
started first and then followed by dns, which is incorrect sequence.
The event id in event viewer is 5781. The error is as below. Currently
i'm using Win2000 AD domain and dynamic update. I've refered to
article Q193888 which describe this problem , but don't quite
understand how to solve this. I also have dcdiag and netdiag result.
Below are the results. Anyone pls advise. Thanks

"Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records
failed because no DNS servers are available. "

Computer Name: MP419B
DNS Host Name: mp419b.mp420.afraid.org
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)
Processor : x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel
List of installed hotfixes :
Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
Per interface results:
Adapter : Local Area Connection
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server. . . . : 192.168.1.2
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
192.168.1.2
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Passed
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
WINS service test. . . . . : Passed

Adapter : {E6036B1E-8CBF-43C8-A98B-AEAFC810EE75}
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway. . . . . . :
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Skipped
[WARNING] No gateways defined for this adapter.
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
No remote names have been found.


DC Diagnosis
Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.
Doing initial non skippeable tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Connectivity
......................... MP419B passed test Connectivity
Doing primary tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Replications
......................... MP419B passed test Replications
Starting test: NCSecDesc
......................... MP419B passed test NCSecDesc
Starting test: NetLogons
......................... MP419B passed test NetLogons
Starting test: Advertising
......................... MP419B passed test Advertising
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
......................... MP419B passed test
KnowsOfRoleHolders
Starting test: RidManager
......................... MP419B passed test RidManager
Starting test: MachineAccount
......................... MP419B passed test MachineAccount
Starting test: Services
......................... MP419B passed test Services
Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
......................... MP419B passed test ObjectsReplicated

Starting test: frssysvol
......................... MP419B passed test frssysvol
Starting test: kccevent
......................... MP419B passed test kccevent
Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0xC0001B72
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:20:47
Event String: The following boot-start or system-start
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:24:17
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:32:18
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:51:46
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
......................... MP419B failed test systemlog
Running enterprise tests on : mp420.afraid.org
Starting test: Intersite
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
FsmoCheck
Click to expand...
 
P

ptwilliams

When looking at this problem in the past, it's been because the netlogon
process is up and running before the DNS server is. Thus, forcing a service
to depend on another forces it to wait for other services to start.

In my example, I chose w32time because it's one of the last services to
load.

Services load sequentially. And, if you were to think about it, on
single-processor systems everything does. The OS just makes it look like
things are happening simultaneously ;-)


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/

Paul, what causes this to happen ? Isn;t that all the services will be
loaded sequentially one b4 another ?

Rgds
Daniel
 
P

ptwilliams

I just did a quick search on this to ensure I wasn't harping on about a
different event : )

I've found a couple of KBs that pertain to this event ID but not the issue
that I've been talking about. Ryan nailed one of the issues - pointing to
the loopback. There's also single-label domain names (which you don't
have), etc.

Have a look at this:
-- http://support.microsoft.com/?id=259277


There's also this, but from speed reading it I'd say this isn't and issue
and not to follow it ;-)
-- http://support.microsoft.com/?id=252695


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/

That's just because DNS hadn't loaded properly and Netlogon tried to
reregister it's SRV records in DNS.

You can safely ignore this. Netlogon will attempt to, and succeed,
reregister later.

You can play around with the order that services start in the registry to
stop this from happening - I've done this in the past, but there's really no
need. However, if like I used to be, you hate seeing errors in the logs,
then make netlogon depend on w32time. You do this by navigating to:

HKLM\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Netlogon

And editing the REG_MULTI_SZ value. You should add, w32time and press
return (there has to be a line underneath the last string).

Note. In Win2000, you'll need to use reged32 as regedit can't do
REG_MULTI_SZ.


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net
http://forums.msresource.net


In my event viewer i noticed that netlogon services has problem. It
started first and then followed by dns, which is incorrect sequence.
The event id in event viewer is 5781. The error is as below. Currently
i'm using Win2000 AD domain and dynamic update. I've refered to
article Q193888 which describe this problem , but don't quite
understand how to solve this. I also have dcdiag and netdiag result.
Below are the results. Anyone pls advise. Thanks

"Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records
failed because no DNS servers are available. "

Computer Name: MP419B
DNS Host Name: mp419b.mp420.afraid.org
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)
Processor : x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel
List of installed hotfixes :
Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
Per interface results:
Adapter : Local Area Connection
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server. . . . : 192.168.1.2
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
192.168.1.2
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Passed
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
WINS service test. . . . . : Passed

Adapter : {E6036B1E-8CBF-43C8-A98B-AEAFC810EE75}
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway. . . . . . :
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Skipped
[WARNING] No gateways defined for this adapter.
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
No remote names have been found.


DC Diagnosis
Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.
Doing initial non skippeable tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Connectivity
......................... MP419B passed test Connectivity
Doing primary tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Replications
......................... MP419B passed test Replications
Starting test: NCSecDesc
......................... MP419B passed test NCSecDesc
Starting test: NetLogons
......................... MP419B passed test NetLogons
Starting test: Advertising
......................... MP419B passed test Advertising
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
......................... MP419B passed test
KnowsOfRoleHolders
Starting test: RidManager
......................... MP419B passed test RidManager
Starting test: MachineAccount
......................... MP419B passed test MachineAccount
Starting test: Services
......................... MP419B passed test Services
Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
......................... MP419B passed test ObjectsReplicated

Starting test: frssysvol
......................... MP419B passed test frssysvol
Starting test: kccevent
......................... MP419B passed test kccevent
Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0xC0001B72
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:20:47
Event String: The following boot-start or system-start
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:24:17
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:32:18
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:51:46
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
......................... MP419B failed test systemlog
Running enterprise tests on : mp420.afraid.org
Starting test: Intersite
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
FsmoCheck
 
D

danieltan

Paul, i just discovered why there is 2 nic. The 2nd nic is the RRAS
setting ( actually i have only 1 nic) so i removed it but still got
that error. Is this the case Ryan was talking about in the KB ?

Daniel

I just did a quick search on this to ensure I wasn't harping on about a
different event : )

I've found a couple of KBs that pertain to this event ID but not the issue
that I've been talking about. Ryan nailed one of the issues - pointing to
the loopback. There's also single-label domain names (which you don't
have), etc.

Have a look at this:
-- http://support.microsoft.com/?id=259277


There's also this, but from speed reading it I'd say this isn't and issue
and not to follow it ;-)
-- http://support.microsoft.com/?id=252695


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/

That's just because DNS hadn't loaded properly and Netlogon tried to
reregister it's SRV records in DNS.

You can safely ignore this. Netlogon will attempt to, and succeed,
reregister later.

You can play around with the order that services start in the registry to
stop this from happening - I've done this in the past, but there's really no
need. However, if like I used to be, you hate seeing errors in the logs,
then make netlogon depend on w32time. You do this by navigating to:

HKLM\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Netlogon

And editing the REG_MULTI_SZ value. You should add, w32time and press
return (there has to be a line underneath the last string).

Note. In Win2000, you'll need to use reged32 as regedit can't do
REG_MULTI_SZ.


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net
http://forums.msresource.net


In my event viewer i noticed that netlogon services has problem. It
started first and then followed by dns, which is incorrect sequence.
The event id in event viewer is 5781. The error is as below. Currently
i'm using Win2000 AD domain and dynamic update. I've refered to
article Q193888 which describe this problem , but don't quite
understand how to solve this. I also have dcdiag and netdiag result.
Below are the results. Anyone pls advise. Thanks

"Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records
failed because no DNS servers are available. "

Computer Name: MP419B
DNS Host Name: mp419b.mp420.afraid.org
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)
Processor : x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel
List of installed hotfixes :
Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
Per interface results:
Adapter : Local Area Connection
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server. . . . : 192.168.1.2
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
192.168.1.2
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Passed
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
WINS service test. . . . . : Passed

Adapter : {E6036B1E-8CBF-43C8-A98B-AEAFC810EE75}
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway. . . . . . :
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Skipped
[WARNING] No gateways defined for this adapter.
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
No remote names have been found.


DC Diagnosis
Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.
Doing initial non skippeable tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Connectivity
......................... MP419B passed test Connectivity
Doing primary tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Replications
......................... MP419B passed test Replications
Starting test: NCSecDesc
......................... MP419B passed test NCSecDesc
Starting test: NetLogons
......................... MP419B passed test NetLogons
Starting test: Advertising
......................... MP419B passed test Advertising
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
......................... MP419B passed test
KnowsOfRoleHolders
Starting test: RidManager
......................... MP419B passed test RidManager
Starting test: MachineAccount
......................... MP419B passed test MachineAccount
Starting test: Services
......................... MP419B passed test Services
Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
......................... MP419B passed test ObjectsReplicated

Starting test: frssysvol
......................... MP419B passed test frssysvol
Starting test: kccevent
......................... MP419B passed test kccevent
Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0xC0001B72
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:20:47
Event String: The following boot-start or system-start
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:24:17
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:32:18
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:51:46
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
......................... MP419B failed test systemlog
Running enterprise tests on : mp420.afraid.org
Starting test: Intersite
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
FsmoCheck
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D

danieltan

Paul, i followed the article and it works, thanks. Btw when Ryan did
mentioned that the DC would refer itself as DNS does it mean that it
has loopback on its tcpip setting which also mentioned in the article ?
Thanks

Rgds
Daniel
 
P

ptwilliams

Yes, I believe so. Instead of having 127.0.0.1 configured in the DNS
settings you should have the *actual* IP address of the DC/ DNS.

Glad that worked. All the best.



--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/

Paul, i followed the article and it works, thanks. Btw when Ryan did
mentioned that the DC would refer itself as DNS does it mean that it
has loopback on its tcpip setting which also mentioned in the article ?
Thanks

Rgds
Daniel
 
P

ptwilliams

From this, I'd say that the issue is still the order in which the services
are loading.


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/

Paul, i just discovered why there is 2 nic. The 2nd nic is the RRAS
setting ( actually i have only 1 nic) so i removed it but still got
that error. Is this the case Ryan was talking about in the KB ?

Daniel

I just did a quick search on this to ensure I wasn't harping on about a
different event : )

I've found a couple of KBs that pertain to this event ID but not the issue
that I've been talking about. Ryan nailed one of the issues - pointing to
the loopback. There's also single-label domain names (which you don't
have), etc.

Have a look at this:
-- http://support.microsoft.com/?id=259277


There's also this, but from speed reading it I'd say this isn't and issue
and not to follow it ;-)
-- http://support.microsoft.com/?id=252695


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net/
http://forums.msresource.net/

That's just because DNS hadn't loaded properly and Netlogon tried to
reregister it's SRV records in DNS.

You can safely ignore this. Netlogon will attempt to, and succeed,
reregister later.

You can play around with the order that services start in the registry to
stop this from happening - I've done this in the past, but there's really no
need. However, if like I used to be, you hate seeing errors in the logs,
then make netlogon depend on w32time. You do this by navigating to:

HKLM\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Netlogon

And editing the REG_MULTI_SZ value. You should add, w32time and press
return (there has to be a line underneath the last string).

Note. In Win2000, you'll need to use reged32 as regedit can't do
REG_MULTI_SZ.


--

Paul Williams

http://www.msresource.net
http://forums.msresource.net


In my event viewer i noticed that netlogon services has problem. It
started first and then followed by dns, which is incorrect sequence.
The event id in event viewer is 5781. The error is as below. Currently
i'm using Win2000 AD domain and dynamic update. I've refered to
article Q193888 which describe this problem , but don't quite
understand how to solve this. I also have dcdiag and netdiag result.
Below are the results. Anyone pls advise. Thanks

"Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records
failed because no DNS servers are available. "

Computer Name: MP419B
DNS Host Name: mp419b.mp420.afraid.org
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)
Processor : x86 Family 6 Model 3 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel
List of installed hotfixes :
Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
Per interface results:
Adapter : Local Area Connection
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server. . . . : 192.168.1.2
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
192.168.1.2
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Passed
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
WINS service test. . . . . : Passed

Adapter : {E6036B1E-8CBF-43C8-A98B-AEAFC810EE75}
Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
Host Name. . . . . . . . . : mp419b
IP Address . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway. . . . . . :
Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
Default gateway test . . . : Skipped
[WARNING] No gateways defined for this adapter.
NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
No remote names have been found.


DC Diagnosis
Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.
Doing initial non skippeable tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Connectivity
......................... MP419B passed test Connectivity
Doing primary tests
Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\MP419B
Starting test: Replications
......................... MP419B passed test Replications
Starting test: NCSecDesc
......................... MP419B passed test NCSecDesc
Starting test: NetLogons
......................... MP419B passed test NetLogons
Starting test: Advertising
......................... MP419B passed test Advertising
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
......................... MP419B passed test
KnowsOfRoleHolders
Starting test: RidManager
......................... MP419B passed test RidManager
Starting test: MachineAccount
......................... MP419B passed test MachineAccount
Starting test: Services
......................... MP419B passed test Services
Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
......................... MP419B passed test ObjectsReplicated

Starting test: frssysvol
......................... MP419B passed test frssysvol
Starting test: kccevent
......................... MP419B passed test kccevent
Starting test: systemlog
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0xC0001B72
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:20:47
Event String: The following boot-start or system-start
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:24:17
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:32:18
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x00004E8F
Time Generated: 02/13/2005 13:51:46
Event String: A Demand Dial connection to the remote
interface
......................... MP419B failed test systemlog
Running enterprise tests on : mp420.afraid.org
Starting test: Intersite
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... mp420.afraid.org passed test
FsmoCheck
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