Netiquette in this newsgroup

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That's not all true. I display posts in text only mode in OE and that's
relatively safe. Quoting can be fixed with various tools available for
free online. The 'begin' bug is theoretically a bug, but I never had a
problem related to it, and I read a huge amount of messages...
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The crash problem is fixed in latter versions - but it didn't matter if
you were in text only mode or not. Not that either one of those bugs,
the input type crash bug and the begin bug are that common. And yes,
you can get tools to fix the quoting, but still OE is not a very good
reader. It encourages top posting by placing the cursor and the sig at
the top of the post. Most place the sig and the cursor at the bottom.
I guess I've gotten too used to my text only reader.
I use gnus, but I am waiting for a new version of OE with the quoting
bug fixed, then I will switch back.


The latter is often caused by Web interfaces.
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Aah, another reason to hate those things :)
 
Charles

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Charles Law said:
Charles

!me just that's maybe But .type to painstaking quite but ,read to difficult
more only not is It .annoying most the of one backwards replying find I
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desrever srettel eht lla htiw ti od uoy ees s'tel won ... doog ytterp ,ko
 
Cor said:
Hi Bill and Marina,

I have nothing against TOP posting. I do it myself forever except
with Armin I try to do it in the other way. With Herfried I mix it
up, and with all others I do TOP posting, because I have always found
that it is more efficient reading the newest message back top down
(the same as Marrina said as I thought).
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Just for the sake of completeness, the arguments against top posting are:
1. There is no sense of continuity within a single post with top posting.
This is especially annoying if a reply appears before the original message
(which happens due to the way usenet propagation works), even more so if the
original message never appears at all.
2. It is more difficult to establish the exact context if you're replying to
a specific part of a message.
3. It discourages proper snipping. When replying to a message using top
posting, people tend to leave the entire original message at the bottom
instead of just those parts necessary to establish context. This wastes
bandwidth.

And I still like this example, from the comp.lang.c++ FAQ:
A: Top Posting!
Q: What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?

^_^

FWIW, I used to be an avid top poster, until I got in a few newsgroups where
it was pretty much expected you didn't. I just complied with the status quo
there, and have since grown partial to bottom posting. I'll never top post
again, but I don't hate people who do it.
 
Herfried said:
In German language groups, rules are more strict and
people not posting inline are usually made aware of that and put into
the killfile if not sticking to that rule. Nevertheless, that's not
the same for English language groups.
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I typically find that outside of the microsoft.* hierarchy people usually
expect you not to top post. It's not really a language dependant thing.

Quoting can be fixed with various tools
available for free online.
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I use OE-QuoteFix myself, and love it. Besides fixing the Quoted-Printable
bug and the line wrapping on quoted messages, it also supplies the means to
let OE bottom post by default (even when auto inserting a signature),
message colouring etc.
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
 
Tom,

Is there a free newsreader out there you would recommend other than Outlook
Express?
 
Hallo,

One of the netiquettes is not to answer newsgroup questions, which are
placed in future.

This behaviour is well known because in this case the message stays in most
newsreaders in top op the reader.

The netiquette says not to answer those questions.

For those who are new can have the excuse that they did not see it, however
strange is that those messages are mostly especially answered by people who
should know that in my opinion.

No answer needed, would only make even more dirt.

Cor
 
* "Sven Groot said:
I use OE-QuoteFix myself, and love it. Besides fixing the
Quoted-Printable bug and the line wrapping on quoted messages, it also
supplies the means to let OE bottom post by default (even when auto
inserting a signature), message colouring etc.

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
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I recommend to use this tool when working with OE, although it slowed
down my machine...
 
Hi Scorpion,

And I was so glad that this answer came at a message from a real Brit with a
name that let me always think on a stiff uperlip.

Cor
 
Hi Scorpion,

Who can better speak English than an Englishman?

Altough I thought that Charles was not from the Thames valey as OHM.

Cor
 
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