netbook sleeves

[Jo-Anne]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I can't think of
anywhere else: If I take my netbook to the airport in a standard sleeve,
rather than a special case, do I need to remove it from the sleeve to get
through security? I checked the TSA site but couldn't tell. (If there's a
better place to ask this question, please let me know.)

Thank you!

Jo-Anne

 

[SC Tom]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I can't think of
anywhere else: If I take my netbook to the airport in a standard sleeve,
rather than a special case, do I need to remove it from the sleeve to get
through security? I checked the TSA site but couldn't tell. (If there's a
better place to ask this question, please let me know.)

Thank you!

Jo-Anne

I would imagine that the requirements would be the same as any notebook-
take it out and turn it on so they can see that it works.

SC Tom

 

[LVTravel]

I would imagine that the requirements would be the same as any notebook-
take it out and turn it on so they can see that it works.

SC Tom

Tom when was the last time you flew? I haven't had to do that in the last 6
years, either nationally or internationally.

To the OP. Most sleeves allow the laptop to be left in but if it has
anything else in the sleeve like a pen, cables, etc then it has to be taken
out of the sleeve. The sleeve with the laptop inside must still be placed
in a bin and passed through security screening just like if it was out of
the sleeve.

See
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/simplifying_laptop_bag_procedures.shtm
for more information.

 

[Adrian C]

I would imagine that the requirements would be the same as any notebook-
take it out and turn it on so they can see that it works.

Have a program auto run on startup.

An animated display of six large red LED digits counting down from a
couple of minutes, will be enough to show that it's a real laptop
capable of running complex programs and not something dodgy.

 

[Jo-Anne]

I would imagine that the requirements would be the same as any notebook-
take it out and turn it on so they can see that it works.

SC Tom

Thank you, SC Tom! These days certain laptop containers don't have to be
opened, but I wasn't sure if any sleeve automatically fit the requirements.

Jo-Anne

 

[Jo-Anne]

Tom when was the last time you flew? I haven't had to do that in the last
6 years, either nationally or internationally.

To the OP. Most sleeves allow the laptop to be left in but if it has
anything else in the sleeve like a pen, cables, etc then it has to be
taken out of the sleeve. The sleeve with the laptop inside must still be
placed in a bin and passed through security screening just like if it was
out of the sleeve.

See
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/simplifying_laptop_bag_procedures.shtm
for more information.

Thank you, LV Travel! I think I had been to that TSA webpage but still
wasn't sure. Your note about removing anything else from the sleeve helps
tremendously. I gather also after a more careful reading at the TSA page
that the sleeve itself can't contain any pockets if the laptop is to be left
inside it.

Jo-Anne

 

[Jo-Anne]

Have a program auto run on startup.

An animated display of six large red LED digits counting down from a
couple of minutes, will be enough to show that it's a real laptop capable
of running complex programs and not something dodgy.

Thank you, Adrian! I think things have changed recently. Now the TSA claims
it can tell a computer from something else just by looking at the X-ray
image. So with the proper laptop bag, one needn't open even the bag.

Jo-Anne

 

[SC Tom]

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Tom when was the last time you flew? I haven't had to do that in the last
6 years, either nationally or internationally.

*****
I flew from Savannah to Green Bay last Thanksgiving, and had to turn it on
in Savannah on the way up, and then again in Green Bay on the way back. It
didn't need to boot all the up, just show the splash screen. In GB, they
even took my 1 ounce bottle of hand sanitizer because I didn't have it in a
ZipLoc bag!

SC Tom

 

[LVTravel]

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I flew from Savannah to Green Bay last Thanksgiving, and had to turn it on
in Savannah on the way up, and then again in Green Bay on the way back. It
didn't need to boot all the up, just show the splash screen. In GB, they
even took my 1 ounce bottle of hand sanitizer because I didn't have it in
a ZipLoc bag!

SC Tom

Sorry, but you just must look like a terrorist!

Over the past 5 years I have flown to and from Baltimore, Las Vegas,
Orlando, Ft. Lauderdale, Los Angeles, Kona, Honolulu, St. Louis, Phoenix,
Washington DC (DCA), Philadelphia, Reno, Minneapolis, Portland OR, Tokyo,
Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, London, and Barcelona and have never had to turn on
any of my electronic equipment, including the laptop that I always have with
me.

Yep, that hand sanitizer will cause all sorts of problems on a plane! ;-)

 

[SC Tom]

Sorry, but you just must look like a terrorist!

Over the past 5 years I have flown to and from Baltimore, Las Vegas,
Orlando, Ft. Lauderdale, Los Angeles, Kona, Honolulu, St. Louis, Phoenix,
Washington DC (DCA), Philadelphia, Reno, Minneapolis, Portland OR, Tokyo,
Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, London, and Barcelona and have never had to turn
on any of my electronic equipment, including the laptop that I always have
with me.

Yep, that hand sanitizer will cause all sorts of problems on a plane! ;-)

I think it's profiling. I'm 63, clean-shaven, and was wearing a Green Bay
sweatshirt in Savannah. Maybe I should sue
I thought it was strange that the only places that did check were at the
beginning of each trip. I never got checked in Atlanta, Chicago, or DCA when
I changed planes.

 

[LVTravel]

I think it's profiling. I'm 63, clean-shaven, and was wearing a Green Bay
sweatshirt in Savannah. Maybe I should sue
I thought it was strange that the only places that did check were at the
beginning of each trip. I never got checked in Atlanta, Chicago, or DCA
when I changed planes.

Well of course that is profiling. Wearing a Green Bay sweatshirt when
travelling in Jaguar territory. What were you wearing when leaving Green
Bay? A Cowboy sweatshirt!

 

[SC Tom]

Well of course that is profiling. Wearing a Green Bay sweatshirt when
travelling in Jaguar territory. What were you wearing when leaving Green
Bay? A Cowboy sweatshirt!

Would not be caught dead in Cowboy anything. My cold, lifeless body would
probably spontaneously combust if it came in contact with Cowboy attire.

 

[LVTravel]

Would not be caught dead in Cowboy anything. My cold, lifeless body would
probably spontaneously combust if it came in contact with Cowboy attire.

My apologies! As I don't have a favorite NFL team since the Colts left
Baltimore (a really cold and nasty day that was) I figured that the
combinations I gave could really get the ire up of the TSA screeners at
those airports.

 

[SC Tom]

My apologies! As I don't have a favorite NFL team since the Colts left
Baltimore (a really cold and nasty day that was) I figured that the
combinations I gave could really get the ire up of the TSA screeners at
those airports.

Yep, those combos would have raised the ire of the locals, for sure.

Ah, yes, a cold and dark day it was. I went to many a Colt game in '79 and
'80 when I lived in Owings Mills. I still like the Colts, but I think it's
more the Peyton Manning mystique than the team itself, although they are a
formidable foe for anyone.

 

[VanguardLH]

Tom when was the last time you flew? I haven't had to do that in the last 6
years, either nationally or internationally.

I just do continental USA flying with a couple of tourist hotspots in
Mexico. While I have not had to actually turn on my laptop when passed
through the security checkpoint for several years, I have had to always
remove it from whatever enclosure it was within and lay it atop that
enclosure. And that was AFTER the August 2008 change when I was flying in
Nov 2008, Dec 2008, Feb 2009, and June 2009. Guess it depends on how lax or
tight is security at the time (threat level), who are the personnel doing
the checks, and how you fit into their profiling.

The TSA guidelines are just that: guidelines. The security folks still get
to make their own decisions. From the TSA site: "Purchasing one of these
bags will not guarantee that you can leave your laptop in your bag for
screening" and "most current laptop bags will not present a clear X-ray
image and should not be sent through the X-ray with the laptop inside." The
security folks don't distinguish between "bags" and "sleeves". It's hidden
inside some container is all they care about and whether they expect it can
be correctly X-rayed (which they won't know until after they try).

I'm glad I wasn't the guy in front of me in the security line who they made
disrobe down to his boxer shorts and socks and stand in the open right after
the body scanner. Ah, yes, checkpoints: the guise of a gov't pretending to
protect so to get their populace used to checkpoints.

 

[VanguardLH]

These days certain laptop containers don't have to be opened, but I wasn't
sure if any sleeve automatically fit the requirements.

A sleeve does NOT *automatically* fit in their guidelines (for guaranteed
exclusion to inspection by removal). Read the guidelines again. If the
security folks want you to remove it, you will remove it.

 

[Jo-Anne]

A sleeve does NOT *automatically* fit in their guidelines (for guaranteed
exclusion to inspection by removal). Read the guidelines again. If the
security folks want you to remove it, you will remove it.

Yes, I know that nothing is guaranteed when it comes to security personnel.
However, if I understand the TSA guidelines, a sleeve without pockets is
acceptable as a container in which to leave the laptop--unless, of course,
the security person says to take it out.

Jo-Anne

 

[Pavel A.]

.........

Ah, yes, checkpoints: the guise of a gov't pretending to
protect so to get their populace used to checkpoints.

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