.net framework in xp sp2

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Yes, .NET Framework 1.0 and usually .NET Framework 1.1 SP1.

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/kb00318785.aspx

Note: Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that date,
computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical
security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows Update
website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

Trying to install TurboTax or other Intuit Tax Prep software? See...

Aaron Stebner's WebLog: TurboTax 2009 can fail to install because it thinks
the .NET Framework is not installed, even when it is
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2010/01/26/9953883.aspx
 
C said:
I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
answer is no.
Click to expand...

Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework <=this
folder?
 
C said:
Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under C:\WINDOWS
Click to expand...

Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now button:
Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?

OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now? Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on
10 July 2010. After that date, computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be
offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not
work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is
installed.
 
PA said:
Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under C:\WINDOWS
Click to expand...

Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
No.

OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now?
Click to expand...

It is.
Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends
on 10 July 2010. After that date, computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT
be offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will
not work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is
installed.
Click to expand...

I know ;-)
 
C said:
does .net framework included in win xp sp2?

I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
So the
answer is no.

Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
<=this
folder?

I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS

Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html

Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
C:\WINDOWS
Click to expand...

Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
Click to expand...

No...
Click to expand...

Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
installed.
 
PA said:
does .net framework included in win xp sp2?

I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
So the
answer is no.

Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
<=this
folder?

I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS

Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html

Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
C:\WINDOWS

Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
Click to expand...

No...
Click to expand...

Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
installed.
Click to expand...

Weird because it's been working great since I installed it some six
months ago. It's XP Pro if that helps.
 
Neither do I.

Neither do I.

I don't have a microsoft.net folder anywhere.
Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
Click to expand...

No.
Click to expand...

Neither do I.

..NET in any form is missing here as evident by the absence of "NET
Framework" in the registry.


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v<version>]

DWord Value Name and Value Data

SP = <ServiceLevel
 

C didn't write that, Farhan did.
I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
So the
answer is no.

Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
<=this
folder?

I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS

Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html

Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
C:\WINDOWS

Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
Click to expand...

No...
Click to expand...

Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
installed.
Click to expand...

Mine seems to work just fine apparently without any .NET Framework of any
version.
 
does .net framework included in win xp sp2?

I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
So the
answer is no.

Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
<=this
folder?

I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS

Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html

Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
C:\WINDOWS

Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
Click to expand...

No...
Click to expand...

Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
installed.
Click to expand...

Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.

It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
software that does other things to the monitor output.

Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
without .net framework.
 
mm said:
C said:
does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
So the
answer is no.
Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
<=this
folder?
I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
C:\WINDOWS
Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
No...
Click to expand...
Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
installed.
Click to expand...

Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.

It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
software that does other things to the monitor output.

Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
without .net framework.
Click to expand...

nVidia cards do. ATI has used .NET for ages. I don't use ATI.
 
mm said:
Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.

It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
software that does other things to the monitor output.

Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
without .net framework.
Click to expand...

You could have avoided that, if you wished.

ATI splits their install into "driver" and "control panel". The
control panel software needs .NET 2.0 . If you don't attempt
to install the control panel, but just install the driver, then
you don't need to install .NET 2.0.

ATI offers downloads in either a combined driver+control_panel package,
or you can download just the driver or just the control panel.

I'm currently running my computer, without the ATI CCC control panel,
and just have the driver installed. It means I cannot access advanced
features via CCC, but I can play 3D games just fine.

Paul
 
You could have avoided that, if you wished.

ATI splits their install into "driver" and "control panel". The
control panel software needs .NET 2.0 . If you don't attempt
to install the control panel, but just install the driver, then
you don't need to install .NET 2.0.

ATI offers downloads in either a combined driver+control_panel package,
or you can download just the driver or just the control panel.
Click to expand...

I sort of thought that was the case. I especially thought about it
when the install was running. grin. I took comfort in the fact that
it was free, so I got something free! Whoopee.
I'm currently running my computer, without the ATI CCC control panel,
and just have the driver installed. It means I cannot access advanced
features via CCC, but I can play 3D games just fine.
Click to expand...

I first wanted a newer card to use Google Earth, but just Thursday I
started using it to output to my TVs too.

Do you think I could have done that without the ati control panel?
Serious question.

When I first plugged the tv in, the picture was blank and I had to go
into the control panel and set TV Output On. I"m guessing that means
I needed the control panel, but maybe not.
 
mm said:
I sort of thought that was the case. I especially thought about it
when the install was running. grin. I took comfort in the fact that
it was free, so I got something free! Whoopee.


I first wanted a newer card to use Google Earth, but just Thursday I
started using it to output to my TVs too.

Do you think I could have done that without the ati control panel?
Serious question.

When I first plugged the tv in, the picture was blank and I had to go
into the control panel and set TV Output On. I"m guessing that means
I needed the control panel, but maybe not.
Click to expand...

For anything non-trivial, you should have the control panel installed.

And that would include doing things like setting up multiple monitors.
I just change OSes, as my Win2K boot disk has CCC installed and
I can test multiple monitor configurations there if I need to.

One reason for not using CCC, is it wastes RAM when it loads. That
is my philosophical objection to using it. Software which is not
being used, should not burn up RAM for nothing. My attitude might have
been different, if a lightweight process sat there waiting for me
to click the CCC icon, and then loaded the software at that
point in time. That would mean most of the time, I'd get to keep
my RAM for more useful things.

I only own one good monitor, and the TV output on my video card
sucks so bad, I have no wish to use that again. So at least while
I'm running WinXP, the single monitor and no CCC works out fine.

(Why do I run Win2K ? That is my "dirty" OS, where I test cruft, like
200MB commercial software packages. I try to keep WinXP a little cleaner,
by not installing the junk I use on the Win2K partition. If the Win2K
partition falls over, there isn't much to lose.)

Paul
 
One reason for not using CCC, is it wastes RAM when it loads. That
is my philosophical objection to using it. Software which is not
being used, should not burn up RAM for nothing.
Click to expand...


I don't know anything about CCC (not even what it is), but the
statement "Software which is not being used, should not burn up RAM
for nothing" is generally incorrect.

Yes, a program which is started uses RAM, but if other programs need
RAM, and the program in question is not used, the memory that it uses
very quickly gets paged out and has no impact on performance at all.
What gets paged out is the least-recently-used memory.
 
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