need to remove service packs from cd

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nkomli

Hi, I have an installation disk which includes service pack 2 for xp.
What files would you need to remove if you want to create a backup
installation disk that would not install any service packs at all?

Thanks
 
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Patrick Keenan

Hi, I have an installation disk which includes service pack 2 for xp.
What files would you need to remove if you want to create a backup
installation disk that would not install any service packs at all?

Thanks

Basically, you can't. Files aren't just removed or added, they are
changed.

If you want a no-service pack XP CD, which isn't necessarily a good idea,
you need to find an original CD of the correct type.

HTH
-pk
 
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VanguardLH

I have an installation disk which includes service pack 2 for xp.
What files would you need to remove if you want to create a backup
installation disk that would not install any service packs at all?

Once a service pack has been slipstreamed into the fileset used for the
install, you cannot remove it. The files it *replaced* won't be
available anymore. If you never had the Gold version (no service
packs), you never had that level of the OS to install, anyway.
 
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nkomli

Once a service pack has been slipstreamed into the fileset used for the
install, you cannot remove it.  The files it *replaced* won't be
available anymore.  If you never had the Gold version (no service
packs), you never had that level of the OS to install, anyway.

Alright, does anyone have an original cd without service packs they'll
be willing to part with or know where I can get one? Obviously I don't
want to pay anywhere near regular price but I'll pay shipping
 
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VanguardLH

Alright, does anyone have an original cd without service packs they'll
be willing to part with or know where I can get one? Obviously I don't
want to pay anywhere near regular price but I'll pay shipping

http://www.google.com/search?q=+"windows+xp"++gold

Add +Home or +Pro depending on which one you want. Few users refer to
the Gold version as such but some do refer to it as the 2002 version
(its release year) although I've seen that also used for the Media
Center edition. Add +upgrade if you have a prior *free* license of
Windows to use with this separate copy. Someone might have a junk box
with 7-year old stuff they want to clean out. Anyone that is using
Windows XP and has the Gold version probably wants to keep it since they
might need to do a reinstall (and then have to apply all the service
packs to get current).

You can go hunting at eBay:

http://computers.shop.ebay.com/item...+-64+-64bit+-x64+-recovery+2002&_osacat=18793

Do your own browsing to see what meets your criteria and make sure to
e-mail the seller to verify it is a Gold version (i.e., no service packs
included). If the condition is USED, verify with the seller that you
can activate it (and ensure they *do* have a return policy recorded in
their auction). Also check if the Buy Safely section shows you are
fully covered for the full purchase price.
 
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smlunatick

Alright, does anyone have an original cd without service packs they'll
be willing to part with or know where I can get one? Obviously I don't
want to pay anywhere near regular price but I'll pay shipping

My question: Why do you want to remove SP2? Windows XP "Gold" has a
lot of "problems" with it, especially with large hard drives greater
that 128GB.
 
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Bill in Co.

smlunatick said:
My question: Why do you want to remove SP2? Windows XP "Gold" has a
lot of "problems" with it, especially with large hard drives greater
that 128GB.

Very good point.
 
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nkomli

My question:  Why do you want to remove SP2?  WindowsXP"Gold" has a
lot of "problems" with it, especially with large hard drives greater
that 128GB.

I want to have the option of installing service packs rather than
being forced into them...
 
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Patrick Keenan

My question: Why do you want to remove SP2? WindowsXP"Gold" has a
lot of "problems" with it, especially with large hard drives greater
that 128GB.

I want to have the option of installing service packs rather than
being forced into them...

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In this case, having that option isn't really something that is desirable.

As noted by others, the original version of XP, which you can find here and
there (and you *still* have to have the correct type, ie Retail, Upgrade,
OEM, VL, MSDN, etc) has significant problems.

To overcome one of its larger problems, it is *necessary* to perform a
clean reinstall - starting with deleting and recreating the system
partition - with an install disk with at least SP1. You can not fix the
problem by installing the service packs later.

It's true that there are some applications that break when service packs are
installed, but there are generally fixes for those applications.

So, if you really want, if you know what the disk type is, you will find
copies buried in people's archives, but the bottom line is that it is little
more than a curiosity. It isn't a desirable piece of software.

HTH
-pk
 
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VanguardLH

I want to have the option of installing service packs rather than
being forced into them...

And what about the "service packs" that were used to update the alpha
and beta versions before it was released? How far back a snapshot do
you need into Microsoft's development cycle?

So far, you haven't provided a sane reason for not including a service
pack within the distribution of Windows. Are you actually running a
test lab or doing development and need to qualify your code on that Gold
version of Windows XP just in case you have customers using the Gold
version? You've never developed code that stipulates a minimal service
pack level for an OS? Well, if you did then you would have mentioned
that. You don't know why you want the Gold edition and haven't even
come up with an imagined reason for having it. "I want it" is not an
excuse for a reason to have it. Your parents should've taught you that
by now. Wants and needs aren't the same.

You've already been giving some leads on how to find the Gold version.
No one here is going to give away to you their copy. This is not a
warez or pirate group. Now go do your own hunting for something you
*imagine* that you need.
 
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smlunatick

I want to have the option of installing service packs rather than
being forced into them...

That nice but you need to understand that Microsoft owns XP. They
have complete control on how XP "evolves" and how the install CDs are
produced The "deployment" of the support of XP is now limited to XP
with SP3 installed.

As for being forced to install a Service Pack, any install CD with a
service pack "preinstalled," you are not installing the service pack
but all revisions to the applications that the CD will install. You
always have the "right" to do / not do all the updates / service packs
that were released after the creation of your install CD.
 

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