Need to enable several processes


M

ms

In an earlier post, I asked about deletng several processes.

I disabled the wrong process and lost my system tray DUN icon. DUN still
works fine from my desktop icon, but when connected, it does not now show
up in the system tray.

I tried enabling processes that were disabled from some time in the past.

These services show as stopped and will not enable:

Windows Net Meeting for Remote Desktop

Windows Messinger

Net Logon

How to enable these services?

How to get my system tray DUN icon back?

TIA
 
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J

John John

In-line.
In an earlier post, I asked about deletng several processes.

I disabled the wrong process and lost my system tray DUN icon. DUN still
works fine from my desktop icon, but when connected, it does not now show
up in the system tray.

I tried enabling processes that were disabled from some time in the past.

These services show as stopped and will not enable:

Windows Net Meeting for Remote Desktop

You don't need that.
Windows Messinger

You need that even less...
Net Logon

You don't need that either.
How to enable these services?
How to get my system tray DUN icon back?

How about Right-click on the icon, select Properties |Shortcut | Find
Target and Right-click the target again to see what is available. Or
you can access it through the Control Panel | Network and Dial-up
Connections.

The thing is handled by Rasphone so you can also just go to Start Menu |
Run and type rasphone in the dialogue box and click OK. Select the
connection and click on properties. There you will see a check box at
the bottom, Show icon in taskbar...

John
 
M

ms

In-line.


You don't need that.


You need that even less...

You don't need that either.



How about Right-click on the icon, select Properties |Shortcut | Find
Target and Right-click the target again to see what is available. Or
you can access it through the Control Panel | Network and Dial-up
Connections.

The thing is handled by Rasphone so you can also just go to Start Menu
| Run and type rasphone in the dialogue box and click OK. Select
the connection and click on properties. There you will see a check
box at the bottom, Show icon in taskbar...

John
Thanks, John, just the data I needed.

But, no luck.

Exactly as you said, ran rasphone, but in my DUN screen, "show icon in
taskbar" is *already* enabled. I also started with the desktop shortcut,
got to the same screen, same result.

I goofed somehow, disabled something this AM that now it does not show up
in the taskbar, of course I tried reboot, no luck.

I did disable MS Webcheck early this AM, now can't find it, could this be
it?

Thanks,

Mike
 
J

John John

Make sure that these services are running:

COM+ Event System
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Telephony
System Event Notification
Network Connections
Plug and Play

John
 
M

ms

Make sure that these services are running:

COM+ Event System
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Telephony
System Event Notification
Network Connections
Plug and Play

John
Thanks for the above.

They are now nearly all running, I used the utilities Codestuff Starter
and Whats Running to between them identify and check all above. The
exception is Remote Procedure Call (RPC) RPC Locator. I tried to enable
it but it won't. There is another Remote Procedure Call (RPC) RPC Ss
that is running.

I rebooted, still no luck. When I lost the icon, I had only disabled 2-3
items, one IIRC was MS Webcheck, don't see it now.

Advice?

Mike
 
M

ms

Make sure that these services are running:

COM+ Event System
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Telephony
System Event Notification
Network Connections
Plug and Play

John
Solved it!

The latest version of Autoruns showed an item in
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ShellServiceObjectDelayLoad

called Network Connection Tray- it showed unchecked. I selected it, and got
the tray icon back to normal. Possibly when I unchecked MS Webcheck the
other day, it also unselected this entry, because with that title I would
not have touched it.

Any comment?

In future, will not mess with those settings, leads to problems.

Mike
 
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J

John John

ms said:
Solved it!

The latest version of Autoruns showed an item in
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ShellServiceObjectDelayLoad

called Network Connection Tray- it showed unchecked. I selected it, and got
the tray icon back to normal. Possibly when I unchecked MS Webcheck the
other day, it also unselected this entry, because with that title I would
not have touched it.

Any comment?

Interesting. That is a pretty obscure and scantly documented registry
entry. You are quite fortunate that you made the changes with Autoruns
and that it created a backup key for restoration. Without that you
would have had a hard time getting to the bottom of this! By default
the key contains three entries. For the benefit of others who might
have deleted the entry here is the registry fix for it:

Network Dial-up Networking (DUN) Monitor Taskbar Systray System Tray
Notification Area Rasmon icon missing fix:
============================================================================
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ShellServiceObjectDelayLoad]
"WebCheck"="{E6FB5E20-DE35-11CF-9C87-00AA005127ED}"
"SysTray"="{35CEC8A3-2BE6-11D2-8773-92E220524153}"
"Network.ConnectionTray"="{7007ACCF-3202-11D1-AAD2-00805FC1270E}"


============================================================================

In future, will not mess with those settings, leads to problems.

You have to be carefull with these tools. They are powerful and can get
you in a real fine mess if you misuse them. Be sure to thourougly
resarch the changes to be made before you make them. Sometimes you
might make a change and all seems right. Then a month later one of
these applications or Windows function that you only use once in a blue
mood might have hiccups and then finding the cause can be very
difficult. I'm not so sure that disabling WebCheck is a good idea, up
to you to satisfiy yourself that it won't cause problems down the road.

John
 
M

ms

ms said:
Solved it!

The latest version of Autoruns showed an item in
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ShellServiceObjectDelay
Load

called Network Connection Tray- it showed unchecked. I selected it,
and got the tray icon back to normal. Possibly when I unchecked MS
Webcheck the other day, it also unselected this entry, because with
that title I would not have touched it.

Any comment?

Interesting. That is a pretty obscure and scantly documented registry
entry. You are quite fortunate that you made the changes with
Autoruns and that it created a backup key for restoration. Without
that you would have had a hard time getting to the bottom of this! By
default the key contains three entries. For the benefit of others who
might have deleted the entry here is the registry fix for it:

Network Dial-up Networking (DUN) Monitor Taskbar Systray System Tray
Notification Area Rasmon icon missing fix:
=======================================================================
===== Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ShellServ
iceObjectDelayLoad]
"WebCheck"="{E6FB5E20-DE35-11CF-9C87-00AA005127ED}"
"SysTray"="{35CEC8A3-2BE6-11D2-8773-92E220524153}"
"Network.ConnectionTray"="{7007ACCF-3202-11D1-AAD2-00805FC1270E}"


=======================================================================
=====

In future, will not mess with those settings, leads to problems.

You have to be carefull with these tools. They are powerful and can
get you in a real fine mess if you misuse them. Be sure to thourougly
resarch the changes to be made before you make them. Sometimes you
might make a change and all seems right. Then a month later one of
these applications or Windows function that you only use once in a
blue mood might have hiccups and then finding the cause can be very
difficult. I'm not so sure that disabling WebCheck is a good idea, up
to you to satisfiy yourself that it won't cause problems down the
road.

John

You just explained a "mystery" that sometimes happens, W98SE would freeze
while offline and editing a simple text file, lots of spare resources- I
could never figure out why that happened. So maybe it happened awhile
before. I will reenable WebCheck.

BTW, new subject- I found nearly all the time for years that W98SE was
solid as a rock. Now I see lots of opinions that it was basically
unstable.

Do you have an opinion?

Thanks again for the help.

Mike
 
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J

John John

ms said:
ms wrote:

Make sure that these services are running:

COM+ Event System
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Telephony
System Event Notification
Network Connections
Plug and Play

John



ms wrote:







In-line.

ms wrote:




In an earlier post, I asked about deletng several processes.

I disabled the wrong process and lost my system tray DUN icon. DUN
still works fine from my desktop icon, but when connected, it does
not now show up in the system tray.

I tried enabling processes that were disabled from some time in
the past.

These services show as stopped and will not enable:

Windows Net Meeting for Remote Desktop

You don't need that.




Windows Messinger

You need that even less...



Net Logon

You don't need that either.




How to enable these services?

How to get my system tray DUN icon back?

How about Right-click on the icon, select Properties |Shortcut |
Find Target and Right-click the target again to see what is
available. Or you can access it through the Control Panel |
Network and Dial-up Connections.

The thing is handled by Rasphone so you can also just go to Start
Menu
| Run and type rasphone in the dialogue box and click OK. Select
the connection and click on properties. There you will see a check
box at the bottom, Show icon in taskbar...

John





TIA

Thanks, John, just the data I needed.

But, no luck.

Exactly as you said, ran rasphone, but in my DUN screen, "show icon
in taskbar" is *already* enabled. I also started with the desktop
shortcut, got to the same screen, same result.

I goofed somehow, disabled something this AM that now it does not
show up in the taskbar, of course I tried reboot, no luck.

I did disable MS Webcheck early this AM, now can't find it, could
this be it?

Thanks,

Mike



Solved it!

The latest version of Autoruns showed an item in
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ShellServiceObjectDelay
Load

called Network Connection Tray- it showed unchecked. I selected it,
and got the tray icon back to normal. Possibly when I unchecked MS
Webcheck the other day, it also unselected this entry, because with
that title I would not have touched it.

Any comment?

Interesting. That is a pretty obscure and scantly documented registry
entry. You are quite fortunate that you made the changes with
Autoruns and that it created a backup key for restoration. Without
that you would have had a hard time getting to the bottom of this! By
default the key contains three entries. For the benefit of others who
might have deleted the entry here is the registry fix for it:

Network Dial-up Networking (DUN) Monitor Taskbar Systray System Tray
Notification Area Rasmon icon missing fix:
=======================================================================
===== Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ShellServ
iceObjectDelayLoad]
"WebCheck"="{E6FB5E20-DE35-11CF-9C87-00AA005127ED}"
"SysTray"="{35CEC8A3-2BE6-11D2-8773-92E220524153}"
"Network.ConnectionTray"="{7007ACCF-3202-11D1-AAD2-00805FC1270E}"


=======================================================================
=====


In future, will not mess with those settings, leads to problems.

You have to be carefull with these tools. They are powerful and can
get you in a real fine mess if you misuse them. Be sure to thourougly
resarch the changes to be made before you make them. Sometimes you
might make a change and all seems right. Then a month later one of
these applications or Windows function that you only use once in a
blue mood might have hiccups and then finding the cause can be very
difficult. I'm not so sure that disabling WebCheck is a good idea, up
to you to satisfiy yourself that it won't cause problems down the
road.

John


You just explained a "mystery" that sometimes happens, W98SE would freeze
while offline and editing a simple text file, lots of spare resources- I
could never figure out why that happened. So maybe it happened awhile
before. I will reenable WebCheck.

BTW, new subject- I found nearly all the time for years that W98SE was
solid as a rock. Now I see lots of opinions that it was basically
unstable.

Do you have an opinion?

You just can't compare Windows 98 and Windows 2000! Windows 98SE was
way better than Windows 98, which in turn, IMHO, was only slightly
better than Windows 95. For home users Windows 98SE was a big
improvement over it's predecessors and being that the only Windows
alternative at the time was NT 4.0 home users were left with little else
to use. The release of Windows 2000 which included Plug and Play
support as well as support for DirectX above 3.0 was pretty well the
last nail in the Windows 9x line, finally the much more powerful and
robust NT operating system was a suitable operating system for home users.

John
 

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