Need to disable offer from Outlook Express "to free up disk space, outlook express can compact messa

[Kevin J. Nielsen]

I use the following because my computer is on at 1:00AM every morning:
Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools,
and then click Scheduled Tasks. Add Scheduled Task Under the Task tab Run: ,
type C:\Tasks\RunTasks.bat Under the Task tab Start in: , type C:\Tasks
Under the Task tab Run as: , your computer name\your account name
Under the Schedule tab > Schedule Task:, enter Daily Under the Schedule tab

Start time:, enter 1:00AM

Under the Schedule tab > Every:, enter 1 Hit OK and exit .

Open Windows Explorer. Create the directory Tasks on the C: drive
(C:\Tasks) Use Notepad to create the following .bat files and .reg file in
C:\Tasks

----RunTasks.bat----------------------
@ECHO OFF
REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat

----NoCompact.bat-------------------
regedit.exe /s C:\Tasks\NoCompact.reg

----NoCompact.reg-------------------
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{......what ever your idenity
is.........}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0]
"Compact Check Count"=dword:00000000

The above registery change makes sure that the count never gets to 100
(which causes the compress or pop-ups). The counter is set to zero every
night at 1:00AM. I can compress the email whenever I think about
it...which is not to often.


If you do NOT want to run a scheduled task every day, then create a batch
file that launches Outlook Express. The batch file also includes the procedure to zero the count.

----LaunchOE.bat-----------------------------
@ECHO OFF
REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat
MSIMN.EXE


Create a shortcut from LaunchOE.bat
Drag the shortcut to the desk top.
Use the shortcut to launch OE.

have a nice day,
JE

Thank You very much Jerry Ed. That is exactly what I was looking for. It
is nice to be able to have more control over my computer.

Also, thank you to every one else who helped me see the light. Thank you
especially to Pa Bear for sending me that link so I could learn more about
Outlook Express.

Thanks again

Keven

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Yes. Inbox and Sent Items should not be used to store messages.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[Crossposted to OE General]

See this recent discussion about the problem:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/fcd35fbfa457fd6f

For reference, here's a list of things which are known to cause this
behavior:

• Various & sundry anti-virus applications (including Norton);
• Various & sundry anti-spyware applications;
• Various & sundry third-party firewalls;
• Any/all of the above running when SP3 was installed;
• IBM Rapid Access keyboard (driver) RAKDLL.DLL;
• Nero plug-in(s);
• Windows Desktop Search is installed;
• Windows Live Mail is or had been installed;
• Disk defragmentation; and/or
• MailWasher

Were all components of CA Security Suite 2008 disabled prior to installing
SP3?

WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

Steps to take before you install WinXP SP3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

 

[Alias]

My "Compact Messages" nag in Outlook Express is out of control. Several
times during a single session the little notify bell will go off like
some one is leaning on the keyboard and won't stop until I close OE.

Through the helpful info on HTFC I think I figured out how to stop it
temporarily. Problem is after I reset the counter to zero eventually
within hours, the multiple ringing of the nag bell comes back. When I
check the counter it has some crazy hex value in there that looks like a
really big number. And this happens regardless of whether or not I
compact the messages manually or accept the nag with an "OK." If I open
regedit and watch the counter, I can see it go up 2 or 3 points just
opening and closing OE one time. How could the counter be logging so
many hits??

I've read that having a corrupt .dbx file could cause strange effects
but compacting the files should fix that. I did not try to replace a
corrupt folder because I have many folders and no way to know which
could be corrupt.

I'm not running an virus scanner and I just did a full reformat of my
windows install. I even bought a program that deletes duplicate emails
(Remove Duplicate Emails by 'MAPILab - http://www.mapilab.com/'
(http://www.mapilab.com/)) which worked great. After many reinstalls of
windows and running the Transfer Wizard I ended up with 4 copies of
every saved email. I don't know if that could be a problem, but the
program works great and deleted all the dupes.

I don't think I have a really large number of saved messages though
after many years I'm sure I have over 1,000 - but I can't be alone
there.

For now Jerry Ed's batch file trick with the reg edit and shortcut
launcher seems to ease the pain a bit but I still think I have a
problem. Put them all in the root directory for OE (C:\Program
Files\Outlook Express). Download the files here: '4shared.com - online
file sharing and storage - download LaunchOE-NoCompact.zip'
(http://www.4shared.com/file/75892605/36aa0461/LaunchOE-NoCompact.html)

The only problem with Jerry's scripts is that it leaves open a black
CMD window. It will close when you close OE or you can delete it. Any
idea on how to fix that?

Anyway, this is a long message and maybe it will help some one. And
maybe someone can help me?

Thanks,

Jim

Do yourself a favor and dump Outhouse Distress and install Thunderbird.
Unlike OE, it has an excellent junk filter and a real time spell check
that corrects as you type. When you install it, you can import
everything from OE except the email passwords. Get it at
http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. Also, OE is no longer supported by
Microsoft and Thunderbird is supported.

Alias

 

[Elmo]

How do I get my email back? I saved them into folders but the folders
are now empty. I WANT MY EMAIL BACK, PLEASE.....
Cheryl

Your newsreader seems to be:

"X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway"

... but there's no information on your email program. The subject of the
thread you "hijacked" mentions OE. Whatever email program you use, you
can get help in a newsgroup dedicated to that program.

If you in fact use OE, then the email folders, such as Inbox.dbx
probably still exist. This depends on what happened; if you lost your
account information and had to recreate it, you can import the old
emails, settings, etc. from the old account. All this can be best found
in the proper group where the subject is commonplace.

More OE help:

http://www.insideoe.com/

Scroll down to "Outlook Express articles on the Internet Explorer
Community website" and find two links on:

# A Multitude of Multiples: Using Outlook Express with Multiple E-mail
Addresses, Multiple Accounts, and Multiple Identities
# The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[Crossposting reply to hijacked thread to OE General newsgroup]

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and #4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (see Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality than
DBXtract)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Future:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

 

[Gordon]

Hi guys

HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO REMOVE THE ANNOYING OUTLOOK EXPRESS
MESSAGE *FOREVER AND AT ONCE*. Please use this only if you want to have
freedom to choose when you want to compact your messages, not to
completelly avoid compacting messages which can be dangerous as
discussed above.

Discussed "above" what?
Posted and mailed

The "forum" that you are posting in leaches off the Microsoft News servers
in order to make it look far busier than it really is. Everyone who uses the
MS News servers sees your post on it's own - we have NO IDEA what you are
talking about and to whom you are talking.

This is not your fault - the fault lies with the forum owners who do not
explain to members that their posts end up on global Usenet newsgroups.
If you MUST continue to post in this "forum" then please at least quote the
post you are replying to as per Usenet customary usage.

You would be far better off however, using a news reader and subscribing to
these news groups direct.

Setting up Outlook Express/Windows Mail to access Microsoft newsgroups
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express/Windows Mail Newsreader
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx


Thank you

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[Crosspost to OE General again]

Horse hockey!

1. MSOE.DLL is not the executable for Outlook Express.

2. Unless you want to risk the loss of your entire message store, you do NOT
want to disable Automatic Compacting (which was introduced in WinXP SP2
where MSOE.DLL was v6.0.2900.2180 IIRC) or do anything in the post quoted
below, /especially/ messing about in the Registry!

3. If you adhere to all of the following caveats, you will never see the
Automatic Compact prompt:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

PS: This thread dates from April 1st (coincidence?) 2007. Please read all
previous replies to this thread before posting any more replies to it:

http://groups.google.com/group/micr..._frm/thread/a24d524e4e73a212/8a4f7e720f76f64d

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Hi guys

HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO REMOVE THE ANNOYING OUTLOOK EXPRESS
MESSAGE *FOREVER AND AT ONCE*. Please use this only if you want to have
freedom to choose when you want to compact your messages, not to
completelly avoid compacting messages which can be dangerous as
discussed above.

1. Backup your dll (see below) before doing any change.

2a. If you use version 6.0.2900.5512 of msoe.dll (check in c:\program
files\outlook express folder or similar), which should come with Windows
XP SP3, then just change the value of BYTE at address A5290 to 00 (from
64) and at address A5292 to 83 (from 82), all values hexadecimal.

2b. If your version is different, use W32Dasm or a similar tool to find
all references to "Compact Check Count" string (should find 3 or 4) in
msoe.dll. The right reference is the one which precedes the blue text
"Reference to: "SHLWAPI.SHGetValueA ..." (rather than SetValue) by 4 or
so lines in W32Dasm listing. Find a CMP instruction containing constant
00000064, it should be around 20 lines afterwards [that's the
"unchangeble" value of 100 times of OE runs]. The values to change, 64
and 82, are parts of coding of this CMP instruction and the JB
instruction that follows it. Subtract the address of the CMP instruction
from the "Program Entry Point" address (check menu Goto) to find the
actual address and fix these bytes in msoe.dll with Ultra Edit or
another binary editor as above.

3. Try it out! Play with the key in Registry to check if it works for
any value.

Please use this only for educational purposes!

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

@Lurkers: Do NOT install any such utility!

In a SPAM reply to a thread from 01 April 2007 (coincidence?), info_cx
wrote: