need help sorting text by trailing Numbers Value

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Barry A&P

I am looking for some help sorting a text field (PartNumbers) alphabetically
but correctly depending on the value of the ending few charachters if theyre
numbers..

Here is some sample data

an960pd10
an960pd300
an960pd6

i would like it sorted like this
an960pd6
an960pd10
an960pd300

any ideas?
Thanks
Barry
 
D

Duane Hookom

I looks like your values have a fixed length to the left of the numbers. If
this is true, you can use the following in the Sorting and Grouping dialog
expression:

=Left([PartNumbers],7)
=Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8))
 
B

Barry A&P

Duane

Thanks for looking at my post.. Im sorry but i gave a pretty poor example
of my sample data as they are not fixed length PartNumbers and i forgot some
have a trailing alpha.

i tried out your suggestion in a query and although my results (because of
the non fixed length) are a little goofy you have me heading in the right
direction.

Unless maybe my data is too complex and needs a little VBA code??

here is what a hardware p/n consists of
an960pd416L
an960 is the style
pd is the material
416 is the size
L is a revision attribute

Here is another sample
an960-416
an960 is the style
- is added in because material is not specified
416 is the size
and there is no revision

additional samples
ms28778-1-034A
ms28778-1-066A
ms28778-1-4

so my sort needs to (starting from the end of the partNumber) first split
off a trailing alpha charachter (if Present)

Next get value of all numeric charachters to the next Alpha (hopefully this
includes - /#)

Now sort first by whats left of the leading part numbers
then by the value of the extracted numerical section
and lastly by the trailing alpha if present

here is the query where i tried your earlier suggestion

SELECT T_PartNumbers.PartNumber
FROM T_PartNumbers
ORDER BY Left([PartNumbers],7), Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8));

I have been trying to add a sort value field but ive only covered a few
hundred records of a few thousand.

Thanks for any help
Barry

Duane Hookom said:
I looks like your values have a fixed length to the left of the numbers. If
this is true, you can use the following in the Sorting and Grouping dialog
expression:

=Left([PartNumbers],7)
=Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8))

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


Barry A&P said:
I am looking for some help sorting a text field (PartNumbers) alphabetically
but correctly depending on the value of the ending few charachters if theyre
numbers..

Here is some sample data

an960pd10
an960pd300
an960pd6

i would like it sorted like this
an960pd6
an960pd10
an960pd300

any ideas?
Thanks
Barry
 
D

Duane Hookom

Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers.
If I were you, I would immediately change the structure so a field stores a
single value/item.


--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


Barry A&P said:
Duane

Thanks for looking at my post.. Im sorry but i gave a pretty poor example
of my sample data as they are not fixed length PartNumbers and i forgot
some
have a trailing alpha.

i tried out your suggestion in a query and although my results (because of
the non fixed length) are a little goofy you have me heading in the right
direction.

Unless maybe my data is too complex and needs a little VBA code??

here is what a hardware p/n consists of
an960pd416L
an960 is the style
pd is the material
416 is the size
L is a revision attribute

Here is another sample
an960-416
an960 is the style
- is added in because material is not specified
416 is the size
and there is no revision

additional samples
ms28778-1-034A
ms28778-1-066A
ms28778-1-4

so my sort needs to (starting from the end of the partNumber) first split
off a trailing alpha charachter (if Present)

Next get value of all numeric charachters to the next Alpha (hopefully
this
includes - /#)

Now sort first by whats left of the leading part numbers
then by the value of the extracted numerical section
and lastly by the trailing alpha if present

here is the query where i tried your earlier suggestion

SELECT T_PartNumbers.PartNumber
FROM T_PartNumbers
ORDER BY Left([PartNumbers],7), Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8));

I have been trying to add a sort value field but ive only covered a few
hundred records of a few thousand.

Thanks for any help
Barry

Duane Hookom said:
I looks like your values have a fixed length to the left of the numbers.
If
this is true, you can use the following in the Sorting and Grouping
dialog
expression:

=Left([PartNumbers],7)
=Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8))

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


Barry A&P said:
I am looking for some help sorting a text field (PartNumbers)
alphabetically
but correctly depending on the value of the ending few charachters if
theyre
numbers..

Here is some sample data

an960pd10
an960pd300
an960pd6

i would like it sorted like this
an960pd6
an960pd10
an960pd300

any ideas?
Thanks
Barry
 
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Barry A&P

Duane
I was looking at my data and i am beginning to fear the sort is too complex,
or atleast too many variables to look at..

The field structure im afraid is correct. as they are manufacturers part
numbers and i am trying to sort the nuts bolts and screws by physical size
instead of alphabetically by partnumber.

I would like to refine my question to these..
if my PartNumber ends with a single Alphabetical charachter how can i get
that value and move it to another field..
so i would remove the "R" from ms234-20R
but would not touch ms35266SS because there are 2 trailing ahpha charachters


Then in the next step how could i move all of the trailing Numerical
charachters to a new field?
so i could then remove the "20" from ms234-20
or 2445 from M83248-1-A2445

I think if i could somehow create a sub that could count the number of
charachters in the part number then use if right(partnumber,1) = alpha and
right(partnumber,2,1) <> alpha
then new field = right(partnumber,1)

and do the same for numbers but keep all the numbers till i get <> Numberchar

but not sure how to test if its a number or a letter or if thats even
possible if its all in a text field..

Thanks
Barry

Duane Hookom said:
Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers.
If I were you, I would immediately change the structure so a field stores a
single value/item.


--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


Barry A&P said:
Duane

Thanks for looking at my post.. Im sorry but i gave a pretty poor example
of my sample data as they are not fixed length PartNumbers and i forgot
some
have a trailing alpha.

i tried out your suggestion in a query and although my results (because of
the non fixed length) are a little goofy you have me heading in the right
direction.

Unless maybe my data is too complex and needs a little VBA code??

here is what a hardware p/n consists of
an960pd416L
an960 is the style
pd is the material
416 is the size
L is a revision attribute

Here is another sample
an960-416
an960 is the style
- is added in because material is not specified
416 is the size
and there is no revision

additional samples
ms28778-1-034A
ms28778-1-066A
ms28778-1-4

so my sort needs to (starting from the end of the partNumber) first split
off a trailing alpha charachter (if Present)

Next get value of all numeric charachters to the next Alpha (hopefully
this
includes - /#)

Now sort first by whats left of the leading part numbers
then by the value of the extracted numerical section
and lastly by the trailing alpha if present

here is the query where i tried your earlier suggestion

SELECT T_PartNumbers.PartNumber
FROM T_PartNumbers
ORDER BY Left([PartNumbers],7), Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8));

I have been trying to add a sort value field but ive only covered a few
hundred records of a few thousand.

Thanks for any help
Barry

Duane Hookom said:
I looks like your values have a fixed length to the left of the numbers.
If
this is true, you can use the following in the Sorting and Grouping
dialog
expression:

=Left([PartNumbers],7)
=Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8))

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


:

I am looking for some help sorting a text field (PartNumbers)
alphabetically
but correctly depending on the value of the ending few charachters if
theyre
numbers..

Here is some sample data

an960pd10
an960pd300
an960pd6

i would like it sorted like this
an960pd6
an960pd10
an960pd300

any ideas?
Thanks
Barry
 
D

Duane Hookom

Again "Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers"
How about giving us at least 10 stored values and how they should be sorted?

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


Barry A&P said:
Duane
I was looking at my data and i am beginning to fear the sort is too complex,
or atleast too many variables to look at..

The field structure im afraid is correct. as they are manufacturers part
numbers and i am trying to sort the nuts bolts and screws by physical size
instead of alphabetically by partnumber.

I would like to refine my question to these..
if my PartNumber ends with a single Alphabetical charachter how can i get
that value and move it to another field..
so i would remove the "R" from ms234-20R
but would not touch ms35266SS because there are 2 trailing ahpha charachters


Then in the next step how could i move all of the trailing Numerical
charachters to a new field?
so i could then remove the "20" from ms234-20
or 2445 from M83248-1-A2445

I think if i could somehow create a sub that could count the number of
charachters in the part number then use if right(partnumber,1) = alpha and
right(partnumber,2,1) <> alpha
then new field = right(partnumber,1)

and do the same for numbers but keep all the numbers till i get <> Numberchar

but not sure how to test if its a number or a letter or if thats even
possible if its all in a text field..

Thanks
Barry

Duane Hookom said:
Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers.
If I were you, I would immediately change the structure so a field stores a
single value/item.


--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


Barry A&P said:
Duane

Thanks for looking at my post.. Im sorry but i gave a pretty poor example
of my sample data as they are not fixed length PartNumbers and i forgot
some
have a trailing alpha.

i tried out your suggestion in a query and although my results (because of
the non fixed length) are a little goofy you have me heading in the right
direction.

Unless maybe my data is too complex and needs a little VBA code??

here is what a hardware p/n consists of
an960pd416L
an960 is the style
pd is the material
416 is the size
L is a revision attribute

Here is another sample
an960-416
an960 is the style
- is added in because material is not specified
416 is the size
and there is no revision

additional samples
ms28778-1-034A
ms28778-1-066A
ms28778-1-4

so my sort needs to (starting from the end of the partNumber) first split
off a trailing alpha charachter (if Present)

Next get value of all numeric charachters to the next Alpha (hopefully
this
includes - /#)

Now sort first by whats left of the leading part numbers
then by the value of the extracted numerical section
and lastly by the trailing alpha if present

here is the query where i tried your earlier suggestion

SELECT T_PartNumbers.PartNumber
FROM T_PartNumbers
ORDER BY Left([PartNumbers],7), Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8));

I have been trying to add a sort value field but ive only covered a few
hundred records of a few thousand.

Thanks for any help
Barry

:

I looks like your values have a fixed length to the left of the numbers.
If
this is true, you can use the following in the Sorting and Grouping
dialog
expression:

=Left([PartNumbers],7)
=Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8))

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


:

I am looking for some help sorting a text field (PartNumbers)
alphabetically
but correctly depending on the value of the ending few charachters if
theyre
numbers..

Here is some sample data

an960pd10
an960pd300
an960pd6

i would like it sorted like this
an960pd6
an960pd10
an960pd300

any ideas?
Thanks
Barry
 
B

Barry A&P

Duane
i do not have a "sort" expressions other than ORDER BY
T_PartNumbers.PartNumber;
here is more sample data sorted alphabetically..

AN5-12A
AN5-13A
AN525-10R8
AN526-832R6
AN5-35A
AN5-6A
AN960-6
AN960-616
AN960-616L
AN960-6L
AN960-716
AN960-716L
AN960-8
AN960-816
AN960-816L
AN960-8L
AN960-916
AN960-916L
CD-10
CD-12
CD-16
CD-3
CD-4
CD-6
CD-8
CR2249-4-01
CR2249-4-10
CR2249-4-5
CR2249-5-5
CR2249-6-3

here is the same data hand sorted..

AN5-6A
AN5-12A
AN5-13A
AN5-35A
AN525-10R8
AN526-832R6
AN960-6
AN960-6L
AN960-8
AN960-8L
AN960-616
AN960-616L
AN960-716
AN960-716L
AN960-816
AN960-816L
AN960-916
AN960-916L
CD-3
CD-4
CD-6
CD-8
CD-10
CD-12
CD-16
CR2249-4-01
CR2249-4-5
CR2249-4-10
CR2249-5-5
CR2249-6-3

I have been playing with VBA to do this.. and i can handle a few if
statements to see if there is a trailing [a-z] but what i cant figure out
how to do is some kind of loop that will get the numerical section until it
gets to the next [!0-9]
I subsituted the Partnumber value that would m
for example if right(PartNumber,1) like [0-9] then 'partnumber = CR2249-4-01
"start code to get digits until it hits the - so results would be strA =
CR2249-4- and strB = 01

elseif mid(PartNumber,len(PartNumber)-1,1) like [0-9] 'for Partnumber =
an960pd416L
"start code to get digits until it hits the "d" so results would be StrA =
an960pd and StrB = 416

else
strA = partnumber

I feel im so lost on this i am just making stupid comments now.
Hope you can make something of this.
Or shoot me down and put me out of this misery. if im nuts

Thanks
Barry

:


Again "Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers"
How about giving us at least 10 stored values and how they should be sorted?

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


Barry A&P said:
Duane
I was looking at my data and i am beginning to fear the sort is too complex,
or atleast too many variables to look at..

The field structure im afraid is correct. as they are manufacturers part
numbers and i am trying to sort the nuts bolts and screws by physical size
instead of alphabetically by partnumber.

I would like to refine my question to these..
if my PartNumber ends with a single Alphabetical charachter how can i get
that value and move it to another field..
so i would remove the "R" from ms234-20R
but would not touch ms35266SS because there are 2 trailing ahpha charachters


Then in the next step how could i move all of the trailing Numerical
charachters to a new field?
so i could then remove the "20" from ms234-20
or 2445 from M83248-1-A2445

I think if i could somehow create a sub that could count the number of
charachters in the part number then use if right(partnumber,1) = alpha and
right(partnumber,2,1) <> alpha
then new field = right(partnumber,1)

and do the same for numbers but keep all the numbers till i get <> Numberchar

but not sure how to test if its a number or a letter or if thats even
possible if its all in a text field..

Thanks
Barry

Duane Hookom said:
Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers.
If I were you, I would immediately change the structure so a field stores a
single value/item.


--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


Duane

Thanks for looking at my post.. Im sorry but i gave a pretty poor example
of my sample data as they are not fixed length PartNumbers and i forgot
some
have a trailing alpha.

i tried out your suggestion in a query and although my results (because of
the non fixed length) are a little goofy you have me heading in the right
direction.

Unless maybe my data is too complex and needs a little VBA code??

here is what a hardware p/n consists of
an960pd416L
an960 is the style
pd is the material
416 is the size
L is a revision attribute

Here is another sample
an960-416
an960 is the style
- is added in because material is not specified
416 is the size
and there is no revision

additional samples
ms28778-1-034A
ms28778-1-066A
ms28778-1-4

so my sort needs to (starting from the end of the partNumber) first split
off a trailing alpha charachter (if Present)

Next get value of all numeric charachters to the next Alpha (hopefully
this
includes - /#)

Now sort first by whats left of the leading part numbers
then by the value of the extracted numerical section
and lastly by the trailing alpha if present

here is the query where i tried your earlier suggestion

SELECT T_PartNumbers.PartNumber
FROM T_PartNumbers
ORDER BY Left([PartNumbers],7), Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8));

I have been trying to add a sort value field but ive only covered a few
hundred records of a few thousand.

Thanks for any help
Barry

:

I looks like your values have a fixed length to the left of the numbers.
If
this is true, you can use the following in the Sorting and Grouping
dialog
expression:

=Left([PartNumbers],7)
=Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8))

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


:

I am looking for some help sorting a text field (PartNumbers)
alphabetically
but correctly depending on the value of the ending few charachters if
theyre
numbers..

Here is some sample data

an960pd10
an960pd300
an960pd6

i would like it sorted like this
an960pd6
an960pd10
an960pd300

any ideas?
Thanks
Barry
 
J

John Spencer

You can try the following VBA code and see if it works to give you a sort
string you can use. It seems to work in my limited testing.

Public Function fStringNumberSort(strIn) As Variant
Dim strReturn As String
Dim i As Long
Dim strNumbers As String
'Set the number of zeros to be used for the sort string
Const csZeroString As String = "00000000"

If Len(Trim(strIn & vbNullString)) = 0 Then
'return null or spaces or zero length string
fStringNumberSort = strIn

ElseIf strIn Like "*[0-9]*" = False Then
'No numbers so we are done
fStringNumberSort = strIn

Else 'Handle cases where there is one of more number characters
For i = 1 To Len(strIn)
If IsNumeric(Mid(strIn, i, 1)) = True Then
strNumbers = strNumbers & Mid(strIn, i, 1)

Else
'Add the number string
If Len(strNumbers) > 0 Then
strReturn = strReturn & Format(strNumbers, csZeroString)
strNumbers = vbNullString
End If

'Add the non-number characters
strReturn = strReturn & Mid(strIn, i, 1)

End If
Next i

If Len(strNumbers) > 0 Then
strReturn = strReturn & Format(strNumbers, csZeroString)
strNumbers = vbNullString
End If

fStringNumberSort = strReturn
End If
End Function



John Spencer
Access MVP 2002-2005, 2007-2010
The Hilltop Institute
University of Maryland Baltimore County
Duane
i do not have a "sort" expressions other than ORDER BY
T_PartNumbers.PartNumber;
here is more sample data sorted alphabetically..

AN5-12A
AN5-13A
AN525-10R8
AN526-832R6
AN5-35A
AN5-6A
AN960-6
AN960-616
AN960-616L
AN960-6L
AN960-716
AN960-716L
AN960-8
AN960-816
AN960-816L
AN960-8L
AN960-916
AN960-916L
CD-10
CD-12
CD-16
CD-3
CD-4
CD-6
CD-8
CR2249-4-01
CR2249-4-10
CR2249-4-5
CR2249-5-5
CR2249-6-3

here is the same data hand sorted..

AN5-6A
AN5-12A
AN5-13A
AN5-35A
AN525-10R8
AN526-832R6
AN960-6
AN960-6L
AN960-8
AN960-8L
AN960-616
AN960-616L
AN960-716
AN960-716L
AN960-816
AN960-816L
AN960-916
AN960-916L
CD-3
CD-4
CD-6
CD-8
CD-10
CD-12
CD-16
CR2249-4-01
CR2249-4-5
CR2249-4-10
CR2249-5-5
CR2249-6-3

I have been playing with VBA to do this.. and i can handle a few if
statements to see if there is a trailing [a-z] but what i cant figure out
how to do is some kind of loop that will get the numerical section until it
gets to the next [!0-9]
I subsituted the Partnumber value that would m
for example if right(PartNumber,1) like [0-9] then 'partnumber = CR2249-4-01
"start code to get digits until it hits the - so results would be strA =
CR2249-4- and strB = 01

elseif mid(PartNumber,len(PartNumber)-1,1) like [0-9] 'for Partnumber =
an960pd416L
"start code to get digits until it hits the "d" so results would be StrA =
an960pd and StrB = 416

else
strA = partnumber

I feel im so lost on this i am just making stupid comments now.
Hope you can make something of this.
Or shoot me down and put me out of this misery. if im nuts

Thanks
Barry

:


Again "Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers"
How about giving us at least 10 stored values and how they should be sorted?

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


Barry A&P said:
Duane
I was looking at my data and i am beginning to fear the sort is too complex,
or atleast too many variables to look at..

The field structure im afraid is correct. as they are manufacturers part
numbers and i am trying to sort the nuts bolts and screws by physical size
instead of alphabetically by partnumber.

I would like to refine my question to these..
if my PartNumber ends with a single Alphabetical charachter how can i get
that value and move it to another field..
so i would remove the "R" from ms234-20R
but would not touch ms35266SS because there are 2 trailing ahpha charachters


Then in the next step how could i move all of the trailing Numerical
charachters to a new field?
so i could then remove the "20" from ms234-20
or 2445 from M83248-1-A2445

I think if i could somehow create a sub that could count the number of
charachters in the part number then use if right(partnumber,1) = alpha and
right(partnumber,2,1) <> alpha
then new field = right(partnumber,1)

and do the same for numbers but keep all the numbers till i get <> Numberchar

but not sure how to test if its a number or a letter or if thats even
possible if its all in a text field..

Thanks
Barry

:

Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers.
If I were you, I would immediately change the structure so a field stores a
single value/item.


--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


Duane

Thanks for looking at my post.. Im sorry but i gave a pretty poor example
of my sample data as they are not fixed length PartNumbers and i forgot
some
have a trailing alpha.

i tried out your suggestion in a query and although my results (because of
the non fixed length) are a little goofy you have me heading in the right
direction.

Unless maybe my data is too complex and needs a little VBA code??

here is what a hardware p/n consists of
an960pd416L
an960 is the style
pd is the material
416 is the size
L is a revision attribute

Here is another sample
an960-416
an960 is the style
- is added in because material is not specified
416 is the size
and there is no revision

additional samples
ms28778-1-034A
ms28778-1-066A
ms28778-1-4

so my sort needs to (starting from the end of the partNumber) first split
off a trailing alpha charachter (if Present)

Next get value of all numeric charachters to the next Alpha (hopefully
this
includes - /#)

Now sort first by whats left of the leading part numbers
then by the value of the extracted numerical section
and lastly by the trailing alpha if present

here is the query where i tried your earlier suggestion

SELECT T_PartNumbers.PartNumber
FROM T_PartNumbers
ORDER BY Left([PartNumbers],7), Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8));

I have been trying to add a sort value field but ive only covered a few
hundred records of a few thousand.

Thanks for any help
Barry

:

I looks like your values have a fixed length to the left of the numbers.
If
this is true, you can use the following in the Sorting and Grouping
dialog
expression:

=Left([PartNumbers],7)
=Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8))

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


:

I am looking for some help sorting a text field (PartNumbers)
alphabetically
but correctly depending on the value of the ending few charachters if
theyre
numbers..

Here is some sample data

an960pd10
an960pd300
an960pd6

i would like it sorted like this
an960pd6
an960pd10
an960pd300

any ideas?
Thanks
Barry
 
B

Barry A&P

john
Absolutely amazing it works great. and handles more data than i expected. I
was sure i would still have to work with the data after it was sorted..

SELECT T_PartNumbers.PartNumber, fStringNumberSort([partNumber]) AS SortValue
FROM T_PartNumbers
ORDER BY fStringNumberSort([partNumber]);

I do have a few oddballs that i can deffinately live with.. the data that
begins with alphabetical charachters is perfect but the numbers that start
with nomerical charachters arent quite as expected. if there is an easy fix
it would be even better...

here is a big chunk of sample data
notice how it revisits the first set of numbers would it be possible to
negate the first set numerical string if the code comes up with more than one
numerical string in its results??

PartNumber Sort Value
1-300-686-03 00000001-00000300-00000686-00000003
1-1282-65 00000001-00001282-00000065
1-225663-5 00000001-00225663-00000005
35C4908 00000035C00004908
35C4909 00000035C00004909
570-074-315-3 00000570-00000074-00000315-00000003
570-076-002-1 00000570-00000076-00000002-00000001
574-074-272-1 00000574-00000074-00000272-00000001
696-41960 00000696-00041960
839-00154 00000839-00000154
950-315 00000950-00000315
1001-4000-01 00001001-00004000-00000001
1086 00001086
1151 00001151
1190K37 00001190K00000037
1204K12 00001204K00000012
1220-2410-2 00001220-00002410-00000002
1242T431 00001242T00000431
1266T2 00001266T00000002
1268T3 00001268T00000003
1275K33 00001275K00000033
1277K24 00001277K00000024
1277K34 00001277K00000034

Thank you very much for your suggestion
i can deffinately get where i am going with this..

Barry




John Spencer said:
You can try the following VBA code and see if it works to give you a sort
string you can use. It seems to work in my limited testing.

Public Function fStringNumberSort(strIn) As Variant
Dim strReturn As String
Dim i As Long
Dim strNumbers As String
'Set the number of zeros to be used for the sort string
Const csZeroString As String = "00000000"

If Len(Trim(strIn & vbNullString)) = 0 Then
'return null or spaces or zero length string
fStringNumberSort = strIn

ElseIf strIn Like "*[0-9]*" = False Then
'No numbers so we are done
fStringNumberSort = strIn

Else 'Handle cases where there is one of more number characters
For i = 1 To Len(strIn)
If IsNumeric(Mid(strIn, i, 1)) = True Then
strNumbers = strNumbers & Mid(strIn, i, 1)

Else
'Add the number string
If Len(strNumbers) > 0 Then
strReturn = strReturn & Format(strNumbers, csZeroString)
strNumbers = vbNullString
End If

'Add the non-number characters
strReturn = strReturn & Mid(strIn, i, 1)

End If
Next i

If Len(strNumbers) > 0 Then
strReturn = strReturn & Format(strNumbers, csZeroString)
strNumbers = vbNullString
End If

fStringNumberSort = strReturn
End If
End Function



John Spencer
Access MVP 2002-2005, 2007-2010
The Hilltop Institute
University of Maryland Baltimore County
Duane
i do not have a "sort" expressions other than ORDER BY
T_PartNumbers.PartNumber;
here is more sample data sorted alphabetically..

AN5-12A
AN5-13A
AN525-10R8
AN526-832R6
AN5-35A
AN5-6A
AN960-6
AN960-616
AN960-616L
AN960-6L
AN960-716
AN960-716L
AN960-8
AN960-816
AN960-816L
AN960-8L
AN960-916
AN960-916L
CD-10
CD-12
CD-16
CD-3
CD-4
CD-6
CD-8
CR2249-4-01
CR2249-4-10
CR2249-4-5
CR2249-5-5
CR2249-6-3

here is the same data hand sorted..

AN5-6A
AN5-12A
AN5-13A
AN5-35A
AN525-10R8
AN526-832R6
AN960-6
AN960-6L
AN960-8
AN960-8L
AN960-616
AN960-616L
AN960-716
AN960-716L
AN960-816
AN960-816L
AN960-916
AN960-916L
CD-3
CD-4
CD-6
CD-8
CD-10
CD-12
CD-16
CR2249-4-01
CR2249-4-5
CR2249-4-10
CR2249-5-5
CR2249-6-3

I have been playing with VBA to do this.. and i can handle a few if
statements to see if there is a trailing [a-z] but what i cant figure out
how to do is some kind of loop that will get the numerical section until it
gets to the next [!0-9]
I subsituted the Partnumber value that would m
for example if right(PartNumber,1) like [0-9] then 'partnumber = CR2249-4-01
"start code to get digits until it hits the - so results would be strA =
CR2249-4- and strB = 01

elseif mid(PartNumber,len(PartNumber)-1,1) like [0-9] 'for Partnumber =
an960pd416L
"start code to get digits until it hits the "d" so results would be StrA =
an960pd and StrB = 416

else
strA = partnumber

I feel im so lost on this i am just making stupid comments now.
Hope you can make something of this.
Or shoot me down and put me out of this misery. if im nuts

Thanks
Barry

:


Again "Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers"
How about giving us at least 10 stored values and how they should be sorted?

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


:

Duane
I was looking at my data and i am beginning to fear the sort is too complex,
or atleast too many variables to look at..

The field structure im afraid is correct. as they are manufacturers part
numbers and i am trying to sort the nuts bolts and screws by physical size
instead of alphabetically by partnumber.

I would like to refine my question to these..
if my PartNumber ends with a single Alphabetical charachter how can i get
that value and move it to another field..
so i would remove the "R" from ms234-20R
but would not touch ms35266SS because there are 2 trailing ahpha charachters


Then in the next step how could i move all of the trailing Numerical
charachters to a new field?
so i could then remove the "20" from ms234-20
or 2445 from M83248-1-A2445

I think if i could somehow create a sub that could count the number of
charachters in the part number then use if right(partnumber,1) = alpha and
right(partnumber,2,1) <> alpha
then new field = right(partnumber,1)

and do the same for numbers but keep all the numbers till i get <> Numberchar

but not sure how to test if its a number or a letter or if thats even
possible if its all in a text field..

Thanks
Barry

:

Please provide the "sort" expressions from multiple actual part numbers.
If I were you, I would immediately change the structure so a field stores a
single value/item.


--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


Duane

Thanks for looking at my post.. Im sorry but i gave a pretty poor example
of my sample data as they are not fixed length PartNumbers and i forgot
some
have a trailing alpha.

i tried out your suggestion in a query and although my results (because of
the non fixed length) are a little goofy you have me heading in the right
direction.

Unless maybe my data is too complex and needs a little VBA code??

here is what a hardware p/n consists of
an960pd416L
an960 is the style
pd is the material
416 is the size
L is a revision attribute

Here is another sample
an960-416
an960 is the style
- is added in because material is not specified
416 is the size
and there is no revision

additional samples
ms28778-1-034A
ms28778-1-066A
ms28778-1-4

so my sort needs to (starting from the end of the partNumber) first split
off a trailing alpha charachter (if Present)

Next get value of all numeric charachters to the next Alpha (hopefully
this
includes - /#)

Now sort first by whats left of the leading part numbers
then by the value of the extracted numerical section
and lastly by the trailing alpha if present

here is the query where i tried your earlier suggestion

SELECT T_PartNumbers.PartNumber
FROM T_PartNumbers
ORDER BY Left([PartNumbers],7), Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8));

I have been trying to add a sort value field but ive only covered a few
hundred records of a few thousand.

Thanks for any help
Barry

:

I looks like your values have a fixed length to the left of the numbers.
If
this is true, you can use the following in the Sorting and Grouping
dialog
expression:

=Left([PartNumbers],7)
=Val(Mid([PartNumbers],8))

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


:

I am looking for some help sorting a text field (PartNumbers)
alphabetically
but correctly depending on the value of the ending few charachters if
theyre
numbers..

Here is some sample data

an960pd10
an960pd300
an960pd6

i would like it sorted like this
an960pd6
an960pd10
an960pd300

any ideas?
Thanks
Barry
 
J

John Spencer

This may not be what you want, but here is an attempt at what I understand you
want. If you want the first number string to not be formatted no matter what
then you will need to add a variable to track if the number string is the
first one. And increment the variable every time you add a number string to
the return string.

Public Function fStringNumberSort(strIn) As Variant
Dim strReturn As String
Dim i As Long
Dim strNumbers As String
'Set the number of zeros to be used for the sort string
Const csZeroString As String = "00000000"

If Len(Trim(strIn & vbNullString)) = 0 Then
'return null or spaces or zero length string
fStringNumberSort = strIn

ElseIf strIn Like "*[0-9]*" = False Then
'No numbers so we are done
fStringNumberSort = strIn

Else 'Handle cases where there is one of more number characters
For i = 1 To Len(strIn)
If IsNumeric(Mid(strIn, i, 1)) = True Then
strNumbers = strNumbers & Mid(strIn, i, 1)

Else
'Add the number string
If Len(strNumbers) > 0 Then
'================ Modification to Not format number if it is the first
'thing to be added to the string
'=====================================================================
If Len(strReturn) > 0 then
strReturn = strReturn & Format(strNumbers, csZeroString)
Else
strReturn = strReturn & strNumbers
End IF
strNumbers = vbNullString
End If

'Add the non-number characters
strReturn = strReturn & Mid(strIn, i, 1)

End If
Next i

If Len(strNumbers) > 0 Then
strReturn = strReturn & Format(strNumbers, csZeroString)
strNumbers = vbNullString
End If

fStringNumberSort = strReturn
End If
End Function

John Spencer
Access MVP 2002-2005, 2007-2010
The Hilltop Institute
University of Maryland Baltimore County
 

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