need a PIM for Windows 3.1 or DOS mode

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a friends requested me to find a PIM for Windows or DOS (windows
preferred) that'll work with Windows 3x and do basically the same
functions as Essential PIM.
 
PIM for Windows or DOS

Here are few to look at.

OddJob
http://files.chatnfiles.com/Cream of the Crop 6/WINDOWS/
http://files.chatnfiles.com/Cream of the Crop 6/WINDOWS/ODDJOB.ZIP
OddJob, personal info. Manager w/ file finder, other tools.

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Free appointment schedulers for DOS are rare, but these two old PCMag
programs (c.1990) are probably sufficient for basic needs. Both
programs share a similar interface, but Journal expands on
Schedule's features by including an account expenses page. Both
programs require about 23K RAM when loaded as TSR's. Hot key combo
can be modified and the TSR can be uninstalled. Appointments are
automatically archived to a text file.

Journal
http://files.chatnfiles.com/RBBS in a Box/V2EG/
http://files.chatnfiles.com/RBBS in a Box/V2EG/V10N03.ZIP

Schedule
http://files.chatnfiles.com/RBBS in a Box/VOL6/
http://files.chatnfiles.com/RBBS in a Box/VOL6/V9N06.ZIP

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*ProteanThread* said:
a friends requested me to find a PIM for Windows or DOS (windows
preferred) that'll work with Windows 3x and do basically the same
functions as Essential PIM.

Give ECCO a try. I believe that it was always in that crossover period
between Windows 3.1 and Windows 95. I'm positive that the "lite" version
of it, ECCO Simplicity, ran under 3.1 because I used it myself perfectly
under Windows 3.11 and DOS 6.1.

ECCO Simplicity is very powerful, too. As I recall, the main difference
is that ES is limited to 10 separate outlines (something like that), and
won't synchronize the meeting schedule for all 38 of your international
offices and your staff of 21.

As I said earlier today, ECCO Pro is available free off the Netmanage
web site, but you've got to know exectly where, which I never recall.
Others here do. (Chime in, folks).

Richard
 
Richard said:
*ProteanThread* wrote:
As I said earlier today, ECCO Pro is available free off the Netmanage
web site, but you've got to know exectly where, which I never recall.
Others here do. (Chime in, folks).

Program: EccoPro
Author: (Raymond Yee)
http://www.compusol.org/cs/ecco/

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Give ECCO a try. I believe that it was always in that crossover period
between Windows 3.1 and Windows 95. I'm positive that the "lite" version
of it, ECCO Simplicity, ran under 3.1 because I used it myself perfectly
under Windows 3.11 and DOS 6.1.

ECCO Simplicity is very powerful, too. As I recall, the main difference
is that ES is limited to 10 separate outlines (something like that), and
won't synchronize the meeting schedule for all 38 of your international
offices and your staff of 21.

As I said earlier today, ECCO Pro is available free off the Netmanage
web site, but you've got to know exectly where, which I never recall.
Others here do. (Chime in, folks).

Richard


I downloaded Ecco Pro last night. It's really great! Just what I was
looking for, with one little exception, but I can work around it.

I've exported my data from Day Timer (it really has to go!) and seems to
work just fine after import into Ecco. There are so many little corners
to the program, and I'm still working out some of the wrinkles. I do
recommend folks give it a try.
 
can't download unless you register / pay $10


You can download it for free at the site given in another post, the
Netmanage site. And there's a yahoo group that supports the product.
 
Jeff said:
I downloaded Ecco Pro last night. It's really great! Just what I was
looking for, with one little exception, but I can work around it.

I've exported my data from Day Timer (it really has to go!) and seems
to work just fine after import into Ecco. There are so many little
corners to the program, and I'm still working out some of the
wrinkles. I do recommend folks give it a try.

Yup.
It's one of those onion-like programs with layers under layers. I've
been using it steadily for ten years, and there are still features that
I haven't learned (I was just jogged here to get into a new function I
hadn't used before -- calling up IrfanView directly from inside ECCO.

One thing I should mention, a problem: It is difficult to figure out how
to control printing defaults. This wasn't properly covered in the
manual, and it isn't as logical as it should have been. And I've yet to
be able to change the default document print format to what I want.
Print Preview is a function inside the main print routine (the program
was put together before firm Windows protocols were widely accepted). I
can always get what I want to come out of the printer; it used to be a
slog for me.

My only caution would be that if you think you might want to transfer
your data out of ECCO into a different program, don't get deeply into
the outlining ability (ECCO permits almost unlimited outline levels in
_any_ of its modes, not just the official "outline" modes.

There is a de-facto file size limit. It's pretty big. I haven't hit it yet.

And finally, I have no idea what ECCO stands for. I once asked someone
at Netmanage, when the program was "live." They didn't know. And they'd
bought it -- when the publisher doesn't know the name of their own
product, who does?

Richard
 
Yup.
It's one of those onion-like programs with layers under layers. I've
been using it steadily for ten years, and there are still features that
I haven't learned (I was just jogged here to get into a new function I
hadn't used before -- calling up IrfanView directly from inside ECCO.

One thing I should mention, a problem: It is difficult to figure out how
to control printing defaults. This wasn't properly covered in the
manual, and it isn't as logical as it should have been. And I've yet to
be able to change the default document print format to what I want.
Print Preview is a function inside the main print routine (the program
was put together before firm Windows protocols were widely accepted). I
can always get what I want to come out of the printer; it used to be a
slog for me.

My only caution would be that if you think you might want to transfer
your data out of ECCO into a different program, don't get deeply into
the outlining ability (ECCO permits almost unlimited outline levels in
_any_ of its modes, not just the official "outline" modes.

There is a de-facto file size limit. It's pretty big. I haven't hit it
yet.

And finally, I have no idea what ECCO stands for. I once asked someone
at Netmanage, when the program was "live." They didn't know. And they'd
bought it -- when the publisher doesn't know the name of their own
product, who does?

Richard


Well, *someone* must know what it stands for...<grin>

I rarely go more than one level deep in the outlining, so it won't be too
much of a problem for me. If anyone ever gets working on developing the
project further, it would be great to have the ability to print an
envelope directly from ECCO. As it is, there's a very good "copy"
function that copies the name and address, properly formatted, so that you
can then paste it into your word processor for envelope printing. I can
live with that.
 
it would be great to have the ability to print an
envelope directly from ECCO. As it is, there's a very good "copy"
function that copies the name and address, properly formatted, so
that you
can then paste it into your word processor for envelope printing. I
can
live with that.

Folks ...

I hope Woodzy who started this thread could afford the small
membership fee and got the EccoPro copy for his friend from our
site. If "retro guys" reach that far back to the days of Win 3.1 or
DOS - WordPerfect 6 or Word 97 are fully compatible with Ecoo's mail
merge functions. Both programs will run on XP. Just make sure after
the installation of the older programs to reinstall the newer/later
versions and configure the Ecco "Mail Merge" Correspondance Manager
per Phone Book -> Mail Merge -> Setup to the location of the
old programs. If you don't trust this solution, Jeff Sonnabend at
the Yahoo EccoPro User Group and sysop at the Ecco Open Forum wrote
an updated Correspondence Manager. Write him a note.

Friedhelm
"http://www.compusol.org/ecco"

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Folks ...

I hope Woodzy who started this thread could afford the small membership
fee and got the EccoPro copy for his friend from our site. If "retro
guys" reach that far back to the days of Win 3.1 or DOS - WordPerfect 6
or Word 97 are fully compatible with Ecoo's mail merge functions. Both
programs will run on XP. Just make sure after the installation of the
older programs to reinstall the newer/later versions and configure the
Ecco "Mail Merge" Correspondance Manager per Phone Book -> Mail Merge
-> Setup to the location of the old programs. If you don't trust this
solution, Jeff Sonnabend at the Yahoo EccoPro User Group and sysop at
the Ecco Open Forum wrote an updated Correspondence Manager. Write him
a note.

Friedhelm
"http://www.compusol.org/ecco"
 
you're welcome susan. actually, after playing around with it (copying
necessary dll files to the directory where ecco is stored, you can run
it off a usb or other portable drive. (you can probably do this with
most windows apps i presume)
 
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