NAV setting to prevent virus stopping all incoming mail delivery?

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There seems to be a general denial of service attack going on at the moment
consisting of billions of unlikely-looking virus laden emails being
delivered supposedly from the CIA or FBI

I am receiving about twelve to twenty a day to various mail boxes

Is there a way within NAV of having it simply dump all of them (or all virus
laden emails) in my deleted items folder in Outlook (my junk mail rule
telling it to do this by identifying "your IP is being logged" in the header
does this about 60% of the time already) without stopping all my mail
delivery to tell me how clever it is and how it has detected it? There
doesn't seem to be a rule within Outlook telling it to direct all virus
laden mail to the deleted items folder and for some reason you certainly
cant do this and immediately permanently delete them.
 
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Duane Arnold

There seems to be a general denial of service attack going on at the
moment consisting of billions of unlikely-looking virus laden emails
being delivered supposedly from the CIA or FBI

I am receiving about twelve to twenty a day to various mail boxes

Is there a way within NAV of having it simply dump all of them (or all
virus laden emails) in my deleted items folder in Outlook (my junk
mail rule telling it to do this by identifying "your IP is being
logged" in the header does this about 60% of the time already) without
stopping all my mail delivery to tell me how clever it is and how it
has detected it? There doesn't seem to be a rule within Outlook
telling it to direct all virus laden mail to the deleted items folder
and for some reason you certainly cant do this and immediately
permanently delete them.

You can use Mailwasher to look at the emails at the POP3 server, it has
virus detection and you can delete the emails at the POP3 server before
you pull them (the good ones) to Outlook, which you can start Outlook
through MailWasher.

So you don't want to start Outlook, you want to configure Outlook to not
send or receive emails at start-up or on a timed basis automatically and
by disabling the auto send/recv emails, it means the you have to use the
Send/Recv button to send emails from the Outbox that was put there by the
Send button and you'll use the Send/Revc button to pull emails from the
POP server that you have filtered with Mailwasher that remain to the
Inbox.

You do that and take the control; the bad emails will never reach the
machine and Outlook so that you have to deal with them with Outlook.

Duane :)
 
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Duane Arnold said:
You can use Mailwasher to look at the emails at the POP3 server, it has
virus detection and you can delete the emails at the POP3 server before
you pull them (the good ones) to Outlook, which you can start Outlook
through MailWasher.

So you don't want to start Outlook, you want to configure Outlook to not
send or receive emails at start-up or on a timed basis automatically and
by disabling the auto send/recv emails, it means the you have to use the
Send/Recv button to send emails from the Outbox that was put there by the
Send button and you'll use the Send/Revc button to pull emails from the
POP server that you have filtered with Mailwasher that remain to the
Inbox.

You do that and take the control; the bad emails will never reach the
machine and Outlook so that you have to deal with them with Outlook.

Duane :)

But that way (stopping whatever I am doing and manually pressing RECEIVE
every few minutes) it is MORE difficult to delete all of them by not
receiving them than by simply highlighting them in outlook and deleting them
en masse once an hour or so. I was looking for a way of configuring outlook
or NAV to delete them automatically or at least dump them into my deleted
items folder automatically?

And installing a separate program which mandates manual use of the receive
function might tend to sorta encourage you to become neurotic about pressing
RECEIVE every few minutes when that can be done automatically when connected
with broadband service. Having the bad emails get to my machine isn't the
worst part, the worst part is when there is this denial of service attack,
having to delete them en masse every hour or so AND having my email stop
while NAV annoys me by trying to tell me how clever it is.
 
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Duane Arnold

But that way (stopping whatever I am doing and manually pressing
RECEIVE every few minutes) it is MORE difficult to delete all of them
by not receiving them than by simply highlighting them in outlook and
deleting them en masse once an hour or so. I was looking for a way of
configuring outlook or NAV to delete them automatically or at least
dump them into my deleted items folder automatically?

You put Mailwasher in the automatic mode and it will go to the POP3
server and show you the emails that are sitting there every 30 seconds, 1
minute or 30 minutes.
And installing a separate program which mandates manual use of the
receive function might tend to sorta encourage you to become neurotic
about pressing RECEIVE every few minutes when that can be done
automatically when connected with broadband service.

I never had that problem so I don't think so and I was sure not setting
there pushing the Send/Recv button like you think, because Mailwasher was
notifying me about new emails with its icon sitting in the job trey. I
click the notication icon MW shows its main screen of the emails setting
at the POP3, I can view the email, mark it or them for deleteion, push
the Process button delete everything, Outlook starts up and Send/Recv
what's left.
Having the bad
emails get to my machine isn't the worst part, the worst part is when
there is this denial of service attack, having to delete them en masse
every hour or so AND having my email stop while NAV annoys me by
trying to tell me how clever it is.

I had 100's upon 1,000's of emails when there was that email crisis back
a couple of years ago sitting at the POP3 server and I never and no DOS
attack and went on about my business like nothing was even happening as
Mailwasher filtered everything and knocked it down. And NOD32 never went
off either because the emails never reach the machine for NOD32 to go off
as they were deleted at the POP3 server by Mailwasher.

Some very powerful rules can be set to filter the emails. The thing is
don't let them reach the machine where you have to use Outlook or NAV to
deal with it.

You should check out the full trial version and test drive.

It can't hurt you may like it. I have not had a email virus reach any of
my machines using MW in years.

Duane :)
 
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Roy Starrin

There seems to be a general denial of service attack going on at the moment
consisting of billions of unlikely-looking virus laden emails being
delivered supposedly from the CIA or FBI
Snip

Is there a way within NAV of having it simply dump all of them (or all virus
laden emails) in my deleted items folder in Outlook

I don't/won't use Outlook and haven't seen one of the emails, but
isn't there a way you can set a filter on Outlook that would
automatically do this, based on the Subj (if there is a common word or
words you could filter), or even if the text contains FBI and/or CIA
(unless you get lots of mail concerning either)
Time to change email client????
Just a thought, YMMV
 
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isn't there a way you can set a filter on Outlook that would
automatically do this, based on the Subj (if there is a common word or
words you could filter), or even if the text contains FBI and/or CIA
(unless you get lots of mail concerning either)
Time to change email client????


Yes, there is and my post was put out there to ascertain if there is some
way of making it work properly, which it doesn't or of getting NAV to stop
trying to tell you how impressive it is every few minutes which is
unbelievably annoying. I mentioned in OP that I had put "Your IP is logged"
into a rule to delete and it did delete them for a few days but now it only
deletes about 70% of them.

Network administrators are reporting the same problem all around the country
and no one seems to be able to do anything about it or figure out how the
virus-spammers are getting around this Outlook rule (it isn't by putting an
extra space somewhere or by replacing some innocent looking letter I with a
number 1). In a few weeks, even the news channels will pick up on it!

From Duane's posting, sounds like MailWasher is the only way if it can
handle my dozen or so mailboxes automatically and delete all of the viruses
before they ever get into its inbox
 

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