my two routers how do I connect to them

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Jason

Actually I know how to connect directly to them via the pc's that are
connected to them but I'm not sure how to get from the pc on one router to
the pc on the other router.

It goes like this

my upstairs network is running a netgear 4 port router. I took one network
cable and ran it to my basement where I have my old router (SMC 7008 or
something) and another pc. I'm wondering how I can traverse the routers and
get netmeeting working to connect my other pc down in the basement. Both
networks are working fine and all pcs can connect to the internet but I'm
not sure how to connect each other.

I guess it's a basic question but it's beyond my networking knowledge. I'm
guessing I have to tell the basement router to allow connections from a
range of ip addresses which are from the upstairs router.
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Jason said:
Actually I know how to connect directly to them via the pc's that are
connected to them but I'm not sure how to get from the pc on one
router to the pc on the other router.

It goes like this

my upstairs network is running a netgear 4 port router. I took one
network cable and ran it to my basement where I have my old router
(SMC 7008 or something) and another pc. I'm wondering how I can
traverse the routers and get netmeeting working to connect my other
pc down in the basement. Both networks are working fine and all pcs
can connect to the internet but I'm not sure how to connect each
other.

I guess it's a basic question but it's beyond my networking
knowledge. I'm guessing I have to tell the basement router to allow
connections from a range of ip addresses which are from the upstairs
router.

Not sure why you needed two routers at all - if you have a cable going from
the NetGear down to the basement, why can't you just use the uplink port on
a hub/switch & connect your computer(s) there to the same hub/switch? That
way there's only one network....
 
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Jeff Cochran

Actually I know how to connect directly to them via the pc's that are
connected to them but I'm not sure how to get from the pc on one router to
the pc on the other router.

It goes like this

my upstairs network is running a netgear 4 port router. I took one network
cable and ran it to my basement where I have my old router (SMC 7008 or
something) and another pc. I'm wondering how I can traverse the routers and
get netmeeting working to connect my other pc down in the basement. Both
networks are working fine and all pcs can connect to the internet but I'm
not sure how to connect each other.

I guess it's a basic question but it's beyond my networking knowledge. I'm
guessing I have to tell the basement router to allow connections from a
range of ip addresses which are from the upstairs router.

You set the external/WAN port on each router to an IP/Subnet that can
communicate with each other. You enter routes and default gateways in
your clients to match the router they connect through. You may need
to edit routing in the routers if they don't have any auto-discovery,
but that's dependent on the routers.

Jeff
 
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Jason

Actually that's what I did. I connected via the uplink port and wa la all is
well.

I am mostly just curious now as to how it would work if I didn't choose the
uplink method but I think the other poster answered it.

Thanks for your time though


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Jason said:
Actually that's what I did. I connected via the uplink port and wa la
all is well.

I am mostly just curious now as to how it would work if I didn't
choose the uplink method but I think the other poster answered it.

Yep - I just don't like doing things the hard way unless absolutely
necessary.
Thanks for your time though

You're welcome!
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
Not sure why you needed two routers at all - if you have a cable
going from
the NetGear down to the basement, why can't you just use the uplink
port on
a hub/switch & connect your computer(s) there to the same
hub/switch? That way there's only one network....
 
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Phillip Windell

Jason said:
Actually that's what I did. I connected via the uplink port and wa la all is
well.

I am mostly just curious now as to how it would work if I didn't choose the
uplink method but I think the other poster answered it.

This is where the dictionary gets butchered. This is all caused by the fact
that what you call "routers" are not real routers but are really "NAT
Boxes". The marketing departments for some reason have been allowed to
rewrite the technical dictionary to suit themselves. Had these been "real"
routers like a traditional LAN router with distinct subnets on each side you
would never had a problem.

What you have done with the Uplink Port is connect the system up at the
Layer2 level with all being on one subnet. You would be only using the NAT
features of the "NAT box" closest to the Internet connection. These boxes
have built in Switches and you are simply using the second one as a Switch
only. You could accomplish the same thing with one NAT Box and one cheap
Switch.
 

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