my systems won't talk to each other

S

see.cher

all systems are connected thru a router (some wireless).
Router has been reset to default.
Firewalls are off.
all systems can access inet.
all systems can ping one another
all systems have different identities.
all systems are in same workgroup
one system sees itself in the workgroup folder.
the other two see an empty workgroup folder.
I have been having issues with the registry on these two.
I believe all the services are set to default XP Pro SP2 startup start
values.
what else is there??????????
 
C

Chuck

all systems are connected thru a router (some wireless).
Router has been reset to default.
Firewalls are off.
all systems can access inet.
all systems can ping one another
all systems have different identities.
all systems are in same workgroup
one system sees itself in the workgroup folder.
the other two see an empty workgroup folder.
I have been having issues with the registry on these two.
I believe all the services are set to default XP Pro SP2 startup start
values.
what else is there??????????
Click to expand...

Check both computers for misconfigured / overlooked firewalls, and for the
restrictanonymous setting.
Misconfigured / overlooked firewalls:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
Registry setting restrictanonymous:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>

If no help, provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer,
and we'll diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>

Please let us know if any of these suggestions are of any help. What you learn
may help others in the future, and that's the purpose of these forums.
 
S

see.cher

Check both computers for misconfigured / overlooked firewalls, and for the
restrictanonymous setting.
Misconfigured / overlooked firewalls:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
Registry setting restrictanonymous:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>

If no help, provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer,
and we'll diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>

Please let us know if any of these suggestions are of any help. What you learn
may help others in the future, and that's the purpose of these forums.
Click to expand...

3rd party Firewall is off-windows firewall is off
--------------------------------------------------------------------
restrictanonymus =0
restrictanonymussam =1
-------------------------------------------------------------------
from wired desktop
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Flying-Low
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX Fast
Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : (address is valid)
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 16, 2005
2:33:37 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 23, 2005
2:33:37 PM

the other wireless which produced an empty folder under workgroup
lists the same thing (different addresses). the wireless that shows
itself under workgroup folder does not show netbios disabled line but
all have the same tc/ip configuration - first box checked re netbios
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Browstat produces a 0 byte file
but then the browser isn't an issue here. that works fine and all
systems can get to the internet.

i'm betting on netbios, but how do i get it enabled.
 
C

Chuck

3rd party Firewall is off-windows firewall is off
--------------------------------------------------------------------
restrictanonymus =0
restrictanonymussam =1
-------------------------------------------------------------------
from wired desktop
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Flying-Low
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX Fast
Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : (address is valid)
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 16, 2005
2:33:37 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 23, 2005
2:33:37 PM

the other wireless which produced an empty folder under workgroup
lists the same thing (different addresses). the wireless that shows
itself under workgroup folder does not show netbios disabled line but
all have the same tc/ip configuration - first box checked re netbios
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Browstat produces a 0 byte file
but then the browser isn't an issue here. that works fine and all
systems can get to the internet.

i'm betting on netbios, but how do i get it enabled.
Click to expand...

The browser is not a program related to Internet (web) surfing. Please read
this article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>

What's the third party firewall?

How about ipconfig for the other computer? Let's look at that, even if it seems
to "lists the same thing (different addresses)".

Check for components and services on both computers:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>
 
S

see.cher

The browser is not a program related to Internet (web) surfing. Please read
this article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
Click to expand...
"hidden" does not exist

"sc query browser" yeilds the same on desktop and laptop with it's
name in folder.
STATE = 4 running

laptop which shows netbios disabled (like desktop) shows;
STATE = 1 stopped
WIN_32_EXIT_CODE = 1460
SERVICE_EXIT CODE = 1460


What's the third party firewall?

How about ipconfig for the other computer? Let's look at that, even if it seems
to "lists the same thing (different addresses)".
Click to expand...

I CAN'T GET IT TO THIS COMPUTER - no connection

- it is consistent with the address and the one that shows itself
apparently has netbios enabled because it does not show as disabled.
Check for components and services on both computers:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>
Click to expand...


netbios over tcp/ip is enabled
LmHosts = 2 automatic
ALG = 3
lanmanserver = 2
shared access = 2
mnmsrvc = 4
 
S

see.cher

The browser is not a program related to Internet (web) surfing. Please read
this article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>

What's the third party firewall?

How about ipconfig for the other computer? Let's look at that, even if it seems
to "lists the same thing (different addresses)".

Check for components and services on both computers:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>
Click to expand...


I rebooted and they all have the same STATE = 4 running result.
 
C

Chuck

"hidden" does not exist

"sc query browser" yeilds the same on desktop and laptop with it's
name in folder.
STATE = 4 running

laptop which shows netbios disabled (like desktop) shows;
STATE = 1 stopped
WIN_32_EXIT_CODE = 1460
SERVICE_EXIT CODE = 1460




I CAN'T GET IT TO THIS COMPUTER - no connection

- it is consistent with the address and the one that shows itself
apparently has netbios enabled because it does not show as disabled.


netbios over tcp/ip is enabled
LmHosts = 2 automatic
ALG = 3
lanmanserver = 2
shared access = 2
mnmsrvc = 4
Click to expand...

I'm sorry that your computers don't allow you to share files thru the network,
if they did you wouldn't be here would you? But you need to supply the
complete, unedited contents of "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from both
computers, for us to continue most easily. Please read these articles, and
linked articles, to see how useful all of the information is.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>

Or, if you like, read this article from the beginning. You have to solve all
lower level problems first, before you can solve higher level ones.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html>

And pay particular attention to these:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>

I'll try to answer your questions, and give you alternatives, but I need you to
help me to help you. Don't ignore my instructions simply because they're too
hard for you to provide what I ask for. It's a lot easier in the long run, if
you try what I recommend.
 
S

see.cher

OK

desktop

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Flying-Low
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX Fast
Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-5A-6D-38-FC
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 16, 2005
4:16:42 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 23, 2005
4:16:42 PM


NO OUTPUT FROM BROWSTAT STATUS

==============================================================================================
LAPTOP 6210

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ruggb-6210
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900-Based PCI Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-F8-30-AA
Ethernet adapter Internal Wireless:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 802.11g MiniPCI Wireless
Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-09-0B-78-66
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.101
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 16, 2005
4:17:37 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 23, 2005
4:17:37 PM


NO OUTPUT FROM BROWSTAT STATUS

==========================================================================================

laptop B >>> laptop which shows itself in workgroup folder

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ruggb-8200
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast
Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-B9-AF-1F
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : U.S. Robotics 802.11g
Wireless Turbo Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-49-D7-42-DD
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.102
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 16, 2005
4:25:00 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, August 23, 2005
4:25:00 PM


BROWSTAT STATUS

Status for domain NEW BALLS on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BA4FFA2E-6A62-44DB-AFA9-A46AC862037A}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: RUGGB-8200
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master RUGGB-8200
\\RUGGB-8200
There are 1 servers in domain NEW BALLS on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BA4FFA2E-6A62-44DB-AFA9-A46AC862037A}
There are 1 domains in domain NEW BALLS on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BA4FFA2E-6A62-44DB-AFA9-A46AC862037A}
 
C

Chuck

OK
Click to expand...

<SNIP>

Thanks, this is a good start.
# All 3 computers have connectivity with the router / DHCP server, and are
getting settings, subnet 192.168.123/24.
# All 3 computers have acceptable Node Type (all Unknown).
# No computer shows IPV6.
# Ruggb-8200 has elected itself the master browser, and sees only itself.
# Both Flying-Low and Ruggb-6210 show "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . :
Disabled".

So start by checking components and services (get NBT enabled), then look for
misconfigured / overlooked firewalls, and check registry setting
restrictanonymous:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>
 
S

see.cher

<SNIP>

Thanks, this is a good start.
# All 3 computers have connectivity with the router / DHCP server, and are
getting settings, subnet 192.168.123/24.
# All 3 computers have acceptable Node Type (all Unknown).
# No computer shows IPV6.
# Ruggb-8200 has elected itself the master browser, and sees only itself.
# Both Flying-Low and Ruggb-6210 show "NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . :
Disabled".

So start by checking components and services (get NBT enabled), then look for
misconfigured / overlooked firewalls, and check registry setting
restrictanonymous:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>
Click to expand...

if i knew how to get nbt enabled, i think i would have the problem
solved.

all the services are the same as the one that seems to be ok.
restrict... is the same as before
no firewalls running

i read someone else blog and he basically jumped right into installing
netbeui and not solving the problem.

do i have to reinstall xp to get this fixed????????
 
C

Chuck

if i knew how to get nbt enabled, i think i would have the problem
solved.

all the services are the same as the one that seems to be ok.
restrict... is the same as before
no firewalls running

i read someone else blog and he basically jumped right into installing
netbeui and not solving the problem.

do i have to reinstall xp to get this fixed????????
Click to expand...

No, just read the articles, and links in them!
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>

Getting NBT working will be just as easy as installing NetBEUI, you do have to
RTFM though. In this case RTFA.
 

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