XP Wireless/Wired won't talk

[John]

I have 3 XP boxes. 2 with Linksys Wireless G NICs and 1
wired into my Linksys Wireless G router. I also have a
Linksys Wireless G/USB print server hooked up.

My problem is I can't get them to join the same workgroup
and in turn file share. The 2 wireless boxes join the same
workgroup (Family is the name of the workgroup) and I can
see all the shares on both / from both in My Network
Places. I can xfer files between them. However I can't see
the 3rd box, which is wired into the router, from either.
Also, I can't see the 2 wireless boxes from the wired box
which is also in a workgroup called Family.

When I call up all the DHCP clients in the router all 3
boxes and the wireless print server show up with IP's. I
can ping all boxes from all boxes. I tried disabling the
firewall on all boxes and the router. No fix. I also
tried "Adding a Network Place" but that didn't work either.

I'm stumped. Do I have 2 workgroups called Family that
don't know each other are there or do I have a single
workgroup that needs to be configured to accept both
wireless and wired connections and in turn start talking
to each other.......and how do I do it?

I'm a few clicks away...I can feel it!

Any help would be awesome. Thanks.

 

[John]

Just wanted to add that all my boxes can get the the
Internet.

 

[Ovidiu Popa]

All boxes (wired or wireless) must be in the same workgroup. Whatever the
connection type is, boxes belonging to different workgroups won't be
available for file (or other resources) sharing. There isn't anything you
could do to somehow bind the connection type to a particular workgroup. Just
make sure that you insert the same workgroup name in the My Computer
properties.

Ovidiu Popa
MVP

 

[Guest]

They all have the same name

-----Original Message-----
All boxes (wired or wireless) must be in the same workgroup. Whatever the
connection type is, boxes belonging to different workgroups won't be
available for file (or other resources) sharing. There isn't anything you
could do to somehow bind the connection type to a particular workgroup. Just
make sure that you insert the same workgroup name in the My Computer
properties.

Ovidiu Popa
MVP




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[Michael_L]

Are you absolutely certain that Windows XP Internet
Connection Firewall is turned off on the wired box and the
two wireless boxes?

Is there a shared folder on the wired box?

Are you logging on the wireless box with a username and
password that exists on the wired box. And visa versa for
the wired box?
Michael

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

All boxes (wired or wireless) must be in the same workgroup. Whatever the
connection type is, boxes belonging to different workgroups won't be
available for file (or other resources) sharing. There isn't anything you
could do to somehow bind the connection type to a particular workgroup. Just
make sure that you insert the same workgroup name in the My Computer
properties.

Ovidiu Popa
MVP

I don't think that's right, Ovidiu. In my experience, Windows
networking supports multiple workgroups, and computers in any
workgroup can access computers in any other workgroup.

To access another computer, regardless of what workgroup it's in, type
its name in the Start | Run box in this format:

\\computer

To see all of the workgroups on a network:

1. Open My Network Places.
2. Click "View workgroup computers".
3. Press the Backspace key.
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[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I have 3 XP boxes. 2 with Linksys Wireless G NICs and 1
wired into my Linksys Wireless G router. I also have a
Linksys Wireless G/USB print server hooked up.

My problem is I can't get them to join the same workgroup
and in turn file share. The 2 wireless boxes join the same
workgroup (Family is the name of the workgroup) and I can
see all the shares on both / from both in My Network
Places. I can xfer files between them. However I can't see
the 3rd box, which is wired into the router, from either.
Also, I can't see the 2 wireless boxes from the wired box
which is also in a workgroup called Family.

When I call up all the DHCP clients in the router all 3
boxes and the wireless print server show up with IP's. I
can ping all boxes from all boxes. I tried disabling the
firewall on all boxes and the router. No fix. I also
tried "Adding a Network Place" but that didn't work either.

I'm stumped. Do I have 2 workgroups called Family that
don't know each other are there or do I have a single
workgroup that needs to be configured to accept both
wireless and wired connections and in turn start talking
to each other.......and how do I do it?

I'm a few clicks away...I can feel it!

Any help would be awesome. Thanks.

I don't think that workgroups are the problem, John, because:

1. It isn't possible to have two of them with the same name.

2. Computers don't have to be in the same workgroup to access each
other.

3. There's no distinction between wired and wireless network
connections.

These tips should help you solve the problem:

1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on
local area network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem
connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all other
firewalls while troubleshooting. Details here:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
3.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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[Guest]

All Firewalls are off.

There is a shared folder on all boxes.

I am logging on to all boxes in an admin account all with
the same name and password.

In continuing my research I've come across a few thing to
try (unfortunately I'm not at home right now so I can't
try them for a few hours. Here they are. Maybe you can let
me know if I'm going down the wrong path:

1) Enable Netbios over TCP/IP. I'm not sure if this is
enabled or not. If it's the default, then it is, because I
DID NOT disable it. If in fact I do need to change this
setting should it be changed on all boxes?

2) Edit the LMHOST file and manually add the IP and
Computer names. If this is the case do I need to edit the
file on all boxes?


Thanks again for your help.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

2) Edit the LMHOST file and manually add the IP and
Computer names. If this is the case do I need to edit the
file on all boxes?

There's no need for an LMHOSTS file in a typical Windows peer-to-peer
network. It's only needed if your network has multiple segments on
different subnets.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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[Guest]

I am experiencing the exact same problem with XP and Linksys router and wireless connections. I will following the posting here carefully. I have disabled firewalls, but I will try to premanately disable them too as well as try other suggestions before changing registry.

I can ping all boxes from each succesfully by name and number. I also have sucesful Internet connection.

 

[Guest]

I am having same problem as John. I have followed all your suggestions to the point of Node Type which in my system is showing as hybrid. Box A still does not show on Network. Attached below are the ipconfig results from my 2 XP boxes. I can ping each of them from the other ok.

Box A
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : d4yv3041
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-73-E1-BE
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.103
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.34.76.6
68.34.76.5
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:09:16 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 05, 2004 4:09:16 PM


Box B
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : g3n8p0
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapt
er
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-DB-53-10
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.34.76.6
68.34.76.5
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 05, 2004 10:58:17 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:58:17 P

I notice difference in node type between Box A and Box B. Box show on network and Box A does not. Box A is ethernet to linksys wireless g router and box b is USB G wireless Linksys adapter.

 

[Guest]

Enabling Netbios over TCPIP on the wired box fixed this.
On the wired box is is not the default and needs to set.
The wired boxes are that way by default.

Thanks much for all the help!

 

[John]

Rick,

I fixed my problem by enabling Netbios over TCPIP on my
wired box. Open up Network Connections. Right click on the
connection you use to access your network and open
properties. Highlite TCPIP and click properties. Click the
Advanced tab at the bottom and then clck the WINS tab at
the top. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCPIP radio button.
Click OK, OK, OK. You may need to restart. That should fix
the problem. It did for me.

Also, it is a very, very bad idea to give out things like
the MAC address for your NIC's and all your IP addresses
on a newsgroup. You may want to contact Microsoft and see
if they can remove that post. Sharks swim here looking for
such things........beware!

-----Original Message-----
I am having same problem as John. I have followed all

your suggestions to the point of Node Type which in my
system is showing as hybrid. Box A still does not show on
Network. Attached below are the ipconfig results from my
2 XP boxes. I can ping each of them from the other ok.

I notice difference in node type between Box A and Box

B. Box show on network and Box A does not. Box A is
ethernet to linksys wireless g router and box b is USB G
wireless Linksys adapter.