My Processor Doesn't Work?

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snilloc

I've just put together my entire PC. On my first attempt at starting
it, it just beeped continuously. To troubleshoot it I started removing
things 1 by 1 to make sure they weren't causing. First I took out the
video card. Reset the PC and it continued to beep. Then I took out the
RAM. Reset the PC and it continued to beep. Finally I took out the
processor. Reset the PC and it did not beep. Is this valid--or are
there errors in my logic? I'm positive I had the processor installed
correctly since there was only one way it would fit in anyways. I don't
think it's my motherboard. Other things seem to function fine off of
it, like my DVD drive.
 
S

snilloc

After reading on the net for a bit, it seems that repeated long beeps
do in fact indicate a RAM problem. Is it really likely that 2 RAM
sticks would be defective?
 
R

Rod Speed

snilloc said:
I've just put together my entire PC. On my first
attempt at starting it, it just beeped continuously.
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Thats usually a memory problem.
To troubleshoot it I started removing things
1 by 1 to make sure they weren't causing.
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First I took out the video card. Reset the PC and it continued to beep.
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Then I took out the RAM. Reset the PC and it continued to beep.
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Finally I took out the processor. Reset the PC and it did
not beep. Is this valid--or are there errors in my logic?
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Yes, particularly that last bit, most motherboards cant beep without a CPU.
I'm positive I had the processor installed correctly since there was
only one way it would fit in anyways. I don't think it's my motherboard.
Other things seem to function fine off of it, like my DVD drive.
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After reading on the net for a bit, it seems that repeated
long beeps do in fact indicate a RAM problem.
Yep.

Is it really likely that 2 RAM sticks would be defective?
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No, but its more likely that the motherboard
doesnt like the ram rather than its defective.

You need to say exactly which motherboard and which ram,
there are some current motherboards which wont start properly
with some DDR2 ram, basically because the bios hasnt been
sorted out properly yet. You may just need to flash the latest
bios or use ram it does like. Not trivial to flash the bios tho of you
cant use an older cpu that the current bios is happy to POST with.
 
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snilloc

I what you said just made me realize the problem.
From the motherboard:
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Memory Standard DDR2 667
From the RAM:
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Speed DDR2 533

I was only concerned with getting the right pins and DDR2 that I guess
I overlooked the speed. That should be the issue right?
 
D

DaveW

It can only beep if the CPU is installed, so No, your CPU is not necessarily
bad. Read your motherboard's instruction manual to see what it says that
beep pattern specifies is wrong.
 
S

snilloc

I checked the motherboard manual and the RAM is not on the Qualified
Vendors List so I'll probably just wind up returning what I've got and
buying one from the list.
 
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snilloc

Ok so after even more researching, the RAM I have is dual-channel and
the motherboard does not support this dual-channel memory.

Here's my question: Can I just by 2 1GB modules of RAM (both
single-channel) and achieve the same types of results?
 
S

sbb78247

snilloc said:
Ok so after even more researching, the RAM I have is dual-channel and
the motherboard does not support this dual-channel memory.

Here's my question: Can I just by 2 1GB modules of RAM (both
single-channel) and achieve the same types of results?
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dual channel/single channel is a function of the motherboard.

what exactly did you buy/install


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L

Larry Roberts

Ok so after even more researching, the RAM I have is dual-channel and
the motherboard does not support this dual-channel memory.

Here's my question: Can I just by 2 1GB modules of RAM (both
single-channel) and achieve the same types of results?
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Dual channel, & Single channel DIMMs are actually the same
DIMMs. When you buy memory that's advertised as Dual channel kits, it
just means that the 2 sticks where tested by the manufacturer to boot
up in their test Dual channel supported mainboards as Dual channel
memory. They are of the same specs. They would work fine in Single
channel mainboards just fine. If your mainboard doesn't like the
sticks you have, it's something else about them.
 
J

Jeff

snilloc said:
I what you said just made me realize the problem.


Memory Standard DDR2 667


Speed DDR2 533

I was only concerned with getting the right pins and DDR2 that I guess
I overlooked the speed. That should be the issue right?
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533 should work fine in a board that will handle 667. The board just has the
specs for the maximum speed that it will handle. If you would put in 800, it
should still work, but simply run at 667 speeds. From what I gather, there
would be little difference between the 667 and 533 in performance. As others
have mentioned, it should be more about the manufacturer being compatible
with the MB rather than the speed. From what I've heard, the problems
dealing with the bios versions and ram tend to be with using DDR2 800 or
higher. Some of the boards claim to handle 800 or more, but the bios that
the board comes with won't handle most manufacturer's 800, so that you have
to flash the bios to a newer version. Everything I've read seems to imply
that this is a problem mainly with the faster ram, and probably isn't what
is going on with your setup. Also check out all of the power connections,
especially to the video card. I had a similar problem about 2 months ago on
a new build that I though was a ram problem and it ended up being a power
connection to the video card.

Jeff
 
B

Bob M

snilloc said:
I've just put together my entire PC. On my first attempt at starting
it, it just beeped continuously. To troubleshoot it I started removing
things 1 by 1 to make sure they weren't causing. First I took out the
video card. Reset the PC and it continued to beep. Then I took out the
RAM. Reset the PC and it continued to beep. Finally I took out the
processor. Reset the PC and it did not beep. Is this valid--or are
there errors in my logic? I'm positive I had the processor installed
correctly since there was only one way it would fit in anyways. I don't
think it's my motherboard. Other things seem to function fine off of
it, like my DVD drive.
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Have you tried resetting CMOS? Try that and see if your MB recognizes
your memory.

Bob
 
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sbb78247

snilloc said:
I reset the CMOS and nothing changed.

About the video card -- I've got a PCI-E power connector from my power
supply (6-pin), but I can't find anywhere that that would go on my
actual card. The card is:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121021

In the manual it says only specific cards need auxiliary power
connections so maybe this one doesn't need it.
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DING, DING, DING, DING!!!!!

oh my it does not need the aux connector, so what is your next guess skippy?

btw, how do you determine the rom works if the ****ing board will not boot?


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sbb78247

resident redneck alt.os.windows-vista
alt.os.windows-xp


you aint from around here, are ya' boy!
 
S

snilloc

How's is the thing going to beep like mad and have all the lights and
stuff working if it won't boot?
 
S

sbb78247

snilloc said:
How is the board going to beep like mad and light up and such if it
isn't booting?
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damaged board. just saw an a8n-e turn on everything but not post. replaced
the board and all was well. nothing was wrong with the cpu, ram, video,
etc. just the board was ****ed.

that's how.

now you did connect a speaker to hear the beep codes, right?



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alt.os.windows-xp


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