My problem in pcitures!

[OVS]

Just for my benefit(to prove I'm not going MAD!) and also to hopefully
come across someone who has managed to sort this problem out, I have
decided to take photo's of the problem I am experiencing with my monitor
output.

The relevant parts of the PC are

Iiyama E431S TFT
Sapphire 9800 Pro
MSI K8N Neo

The problem is the image output on non-native resolutions. Everything is
fine and smoothing/scaling works wonderfully with *no* ATI drivers. As
soon as I install the required ATI driver, output is a mess.

This first picture is with no graphics driver installed(uninstalled all
instances of the ATI driver)
http://img71.exs.cx/img71/7591/nonATI2.jpg

Maybe not crystal clear as native. But still a surprisingly excellent
result.

This next photo is when I install an ATI driver (in this case Catalyst
4.9). I have tried different variations of these drivers with same results.
http://img71.exs.cx/img71/9900/ATI4.jpg

The photo doesn't do it justice, in actuality its completely unusable.

It doesn't make sense to me. How can the Windows XP default VGA adaptor
driver be able to output better than the ATI driver. You'd think ATI
would be able to implement a feature found on the most basic of drivers.

Anyway, thats the end of my story!

Thanks

 

[John David Carter]

Just for my benefit(to prove I'm not going MAD!) and also to hopefully
come across someone who has managed to sort this problem out, I have
decided to take photo's of the problem I am experiencing with my monitor
output.

The relevant parts of the PC are

Iiyama E431S TFT
Sapphire 9800 Pro
MSI K8N Neo

The problem is the image output on non-native resolutions. Everything is
fine and smoothing/scaling works wonderfully with *no* ATI drivers. As
soon as I install the required ATI driver, output is a mess.

If it is a new? card then it looks like you have bad video memory/gpu...
Irregardless, that is what it looks like, especially if this has been
happening from the first time that you used it and goes away when you
uninstall the ATI drivers. The "Default Driver" is the VESA 2D no
acceleration ( very simple functions ), whereas the ATI drivers even
accelerate the 2D functions.

So, TAKE IT BACK AND GET A NEW ONE!

Hopefully you can, if not... Sigh... I did that to one of my ATI cards by
accident late one night... A beautiful 9800pro that I killed some memory
on... Anyway, I am saving up for a X800XT.

 

[OVS]

So, TAKE IT BACK AND GET A NEW ONE!

Hopefully you can, if not... Sigh... I did that to one of my ATI cards by
accident late one night... A beautiful 9800pro that I killed some memory
on... Anyway, I am saving up for a X800XT.

Thanks for the reply, John. I've had the card for a month now, so hope its
not too late to send it back. Its strange how performance including 2D and
3D is fine in native resolution of Monitor, but any other rez's and the
corrupt graphics occur. Anyway, I'm off to see if they'll swap the card.

Thanks again John, its very much appreciated.

 

[fish]

did you set the refresh rates for each driver?

 

[fish]

did you set the refresh rates for each driver?

 

[OVS]

did you set the refresh rates for each driver?

yep, tried all the different refresh rates available.

 

[First of One]

Are you using the DVI or or VGA? With the ATi drivers, under the

Display Properties -> Advanced -> Options tab,

there are two DVI-related checkboxes. Have you tried them?

 

[OVS]

Are you using the DVI or or VGA? With the ATi drivers, under the

Display Properties -> Advanced -> Options tab,

there are two DVI-related checkboxes. Have you tried them?

Using DVI. Yep, I've tried them both. Makes no difference, checked or not
unfortunatly.
I've also tested with VGA. I don't think I'm ever going to sort this
problem out!

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Geoff]

Just for my benefit(to prove I'm not going MAD!) and also to hopefully
come across someone who has managed to sort this problem out, I have
decided to take photo's of the problem I am experiencing with my
monitor output.

The relevant parts of the PC are

Iiyama E431S TFT
Sapphire 9800 Pro
MSI K8N Neo

The problem is the image output on non-native resolutions. Everything
is fine and smoothing/scaling works wonderfully with *no* ATI
drivers. As soon as I install the required ATI driver, output is a
mess.

nothing wrong with your output really, just play with the settings, although
mainly:

set it to it's native res of 1280x1024

 

[OVS]

nothing wrong with your output really, just play with the settings, although
mainly:

oh yeah? which settings? Go ahead....

set it to it's native res of 1280x1024

For gods sake! Give me strength. There are times when dropping down a
resolution is useful, especially for games (some games don't even work
at 1280x1024). Is that clear? Seriously what am I wording wrong?


Before you steam in with - 'LCDS are only meant to be used in native'.
Thats plainly wrong. The output from my monitor is excellent on lower
resolutions without the ATI driver. Maybe not as pin sharp as native,
but still *very* good. I've installed an old Nvidia card with Nvidia
drivers and this also works how its designed to.

My question and only question is 'why are the ATI drivers/hardware not
able to support resolutions less than native on a LCD'.

.... let me second guess a future condescending quip from yourslef - I
didn't buy a CRT because I use the screen mainly for text output. I've
seen both in action and an LCD screen, in my opinion is better. Add that
to the fact that the output on lower resolutions on decent LCDS are more
than acceptable when everything's working as it should be... well..
....this leads on to my original post.

 

[Geoff]

oh yeah? which settings? Go ahead....



For gods sake! Give me strength. There are times when dropping down a
resolution is useful, especially for games (some games don't even work
at 1280x1024). Is that clear? Seriously what am I wording wrong?


Before you steam in with - 'LCDS are only meant to be used in native'.
Thats plainly wrong. The output from my monitor is excellent on lower
resolutions without the ATI driver. Maybe not as pin sharp as native,
but still *very* good. I've installed an old Nvidia card with Nvidia
drivers and this also works how its designed to.

My question and only question is 'why are the ATI drivers/hardware not
able to support resolutions less than native on a LCD'.

... let me second guess a future condescending quip from yourslef - I
didn't buy a CRT because I use the screen mainly for text output. I've
seen both in action and an LCD screen, in my opinion is better. Add
that to the fact that the output on lower resolutions on decent LCDS are
more than acceptable when everything's working as it should be...
well.. ...this leads on to my original post.

i suspect the crappy output is do to smooth screen fonts + tft res
stretching = your mess, like i said have a play with your settings
display properties > appearence > effects
in there as well as the ati parts

you are best using native res for windows, if you want bigger fonts, and
change the font size and such, it'll look better, for games and such, it
doesn't matter

and no, i don't have a TFT myself, i can't afford (nor do they make any good
big tft's) to replace my CRT

 

[OVS]

i suspect the crappy output is do to smooth screen fonts + tft res
stretching = your mess, like i said have a play with your settings
display properties > appearence > effects
in there as well as the ati parts

There is not much to play with, either off or on basically. With it off
it looks the same corrupt graphics, with smoothing off!


Its not just the Text which is corrupt. Its the whole screen, although
obviously its not as noticeable. But if I look at the edges of a photo,
it corrupted like the text is in the screenshot I posted.

It seems like with the ATI drivers, scalling is not accomplished.

you are best using native res for windows, if you want bigger fonts, and
change the font size and such, it'll look better, for games and such, it
doesn't matter

The native Rez is perfect for me when in windows. Its only when I *need*
to go into a smaller rez that its more of a problem than it should be.

and no, i don't have a TFT myself, i can't afford (nor do they make any good
big tft's) to replace my CRT

Thanks for the reply Geoff.