My favorite newsreader

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

You, yes you Bill Turner, are one of the ones to kick the shit out of
anyone who mentions non-freeware ..... so why the f**k this post ?

I used to think your opinion was sometimes well reasoned, but now ....

Plonk

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You have me confused with someone else, possibly with the same name. I have
never "kicked the shit" out of anyone for mentioning non-freeware. I've
never even commented on it. I couldn't care less.

Bill T.

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

If you didn't pay for it, watch out for Microsoft's "anti-piracy"

efforts.

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I paid for WinXP, gladly, but I consider OE a freebie just tossed in. I
would never pay real money for OE, trust me.

Bill T.

 

[Bill Turner]

You say you like it, but you say nothing about why you like it.
Maybe you're just looking to take a dig at the alleged "Microsoft
haters"?

Correct. I always dig at Microsoft haters. Irrational people are such easy
targets and I just can't resist. It's a personality defect.

ISTM it handles news pretty much the say way it handles e-mail. What
do you think it does better with news than with e-mail?

You're right about that, so I should clarify. What it does is tolerable for
Usenet but not for email and that's why I prefer Eudora (paid version). For
instance, Eudora has Bayesean filters for spam, OE doesn't. Works really
well. Eudora has a built in toolbar which allows one to add smileys, OE
doesn't, unless you purchase one separately. Setting up mailbox filters is
much easier in Eudora than OE. When replying to a message, Eudora allows you
to higlight text and have only that text appear in the reply. OE doesn't.

There are other things but those are the ones which come to mind.

I'm not really bashing OE, it works but like a number of MS products it
could be better.

Bill T.

 

[Gabriele Neukam]

On that special day, Bill Turner, ([email protected]) said...

Microsoft haters are reaching for their delete key so fast they might injure
themselves, but too bad for them. I would agree OE sucks for email (I use
Eudora) but for Usenet it does the job perfectly and the price is right.

http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/ is by no means worse.


Gabriele Neukam

(e-mail address removed)

 

[mike]

»Q« wrote

Usenet and its customs predate Linux by over ten years.

I think it was meant to be a joke.... :~)

 

[mike]

badgolferman wrote

There are updates constantly and two forums where the author
participates in. In addition, some of the forum members are allowed to
help in the project.

I just tried it, and I'm afraid I don't think it's anywhere near Xnews.

(I'm not very techinical, I only use a newsreader for reading, so if you
need XYZ function, and Xnews won't do it, I defer).

But Xnews has a wonderful open 2 panel view, which *still* tells you which
server and group you're on.

The excellent central control bar where a single mouse click will open the
next unread (with ctrl next read or unread); skip quoted text, a boon when
scissors seem to have been forgotten; Post a reply or new post; word wrap,
and show headers.

F8, then Shift F8, will catch up and then go to the next group.

Very much a lazy man's/ladies newsreader - suits me!

 

[mike]

mike wrote

I fergot to mention the single click in the subject field fetches the body,
while the single click anywhere else in the header moves the focus to the
header pane there so the mouse wheel will scroll, and F12 will fullscreen
it to make it easier to navigate. Nice.

And I bet there's a load more I haven't found yet

 

[badgolferman]

mike wrote

I fergot to mention the single click in the subject field fetches the
body, while the single click anywhere else in the header moves the
focus to the header pane there so the mouse wheel will scroll, and
F12 will fullscreen it to make it easier to navigate. Nice.

And I bet there's a load more I haven't found yet

I don't deny XNews is a great newsreader, but it was not intuitive for
me and the options were miniscule. I know you can edit some sort of
..ini file for it but that was too complicated for me. Scoring is an
option I don't like, and I couldn't figure out how to make colored
threads/conversations. Those are some of the features that were
lacking for me. But that's the beauty of software, we have so many
choices and eventually you will find what suits you.

 

[mike]

badgolferman wrote

I don't deny XNews is a great newsreader, but it was not intuitive for
me

Me neither, I found them all by accident

I know you can edit some sort of

.ini file for it but that was too complicated for me.

Me, too
Scoring is an

option I don't like,

Me, too, but I use it to watch threads, one click takes it to +9999

and I couldn't figure out how to make colored

threads/conversations.

You can set various colours for levels of quote in setup.

But that's the beauty of software, we have so many

choices and eventually you will find what suits you.

Certainly - Treepad, Xnews and Birthday Reminder seem to be my alltime
keepers

 

[Toad]

I love OE. It did everything I wanted except allow me to run from my
USB Flash Drive. I also couldn't decode yEnc, but there are plenty of
apps to do that now. I am using Portable Thunderbird right now, it's
kind of hard to make stationery, but has kind of the same interface and
I can get my Email and Usenet from any participating Internet connection.

http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/portable_thunderbird/

Go get this - it works.

http://www.mutexed.com/code/OeyEnc/

And isn't a proxy server.

Toad

 

[Toad]

I've had OE decode and decipher yEnc and I've had it choke on it!
Overall, based on my experience, I cannot rely on OE to decode yEnc.
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Whether that unreliability
is with OE or the sender's idiosyncrasies is unknown.

Helen

Hi Helen,

I don't think I've ever had it y-decode/encode.

But, give this a try - it seems to work and is freeware

http://www.mutexed.com/code/OeyEnc/

Toad

 

[Helen]

Hi Helen,

I don't think I've ever had it y-decode/encode.

But, give this a try - it seems to work and is freeware

http://www.mutexed.com/code/OeyEnc/

Toad

Thanks, I'll check it out later tomorrow afternoon.

Helen
--
It has always been the policy of the
advocates of error, when unable to
sustain themselves by sophistry, specious
reasoning and false logic, to stigmatize
the advocates of truth.

 

[Bob Adkins]

I've NEVER had this occur! Other problems, yes, but not this!

Maybe I need to try the latest release. Maybe they fixed it. Maybe they
added "download new headers in current group", "download new headers in all
subscribed groups", and maybe they now have better grouping and sorting.

All I can remember about Outlook Express is every body in a large news group
suddenly starting to come down without my having triggered that action. I
had no choice but to exit the program (for 3 years), and still haven't
opened the news reading part since then.

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Maybe I need to try the latest release. Maybe they fixed it. Maybe they
added "download new headers in current group", "download new headers in
all
subscribed groups", and maybe they now have better grouping and sorting.

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You can set each group's download properties independent of the other groups
using the right-click menu. I set all my groups to download headers only,
then added the "Sync All" icon to the toolbar. One click on the icon and all
headers are downloaded. Works perfectly for me.

IMO the "Sync All" icon should be on the toolbar by default. I have no idea
why it isn't.

Bill T.

 

[old jon]

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You can set each group's download properties independent of the other
groups using the right-click menu. I set all my groups to download headers
only, then added the "Sync All" icon to the toolbar. One click on the icon
and all headers are downloaded. Works perfectly for me.

IMO the "Sync All" icon should be on the toolbar by default. I have no
idea why it isn't.

Bill T.

Mine is now. Thanks Bill <g>.
bw..OJ

 

[H-Man]

Don't laugh, now. I've tried a bunch of newsreaders including Agent, XNews,
and others I can't remember, but you know which one I like the best?

Drum roll.... Outlook Express.

I used to think you were right.
Now I use 40tude Dialog and wouldn't go back. It's far from perfect but
fits what I need far better than OE. The biggest thing for me was to get
used to it. Once I got comfortable with it, going back seemed senseless.

 

[SeaMaiden]

On that special day, Bill Turner, ([email protected]) said...


http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/ is by no means worse.

Gabriele Neukam
(e-mail address removed)

Thunderbird is slightly better than OE for mail but sucks for news. You
can't delete news threads or news messages unless you use the aging feature,
but then you could lose mail you want as well. Thunderbird has no Keep
feature like Agent Newsreader. I wish the free version of agent had more
features, but they make you pay for the shareware version to get the
features you need.

 

[S.O. Meone]

Thunderbird is slightly better than OE for mail but sucks for news.

I had a look at Thinderbird, as I like to further the cause of open
source software. It turned out to be memory hog like no other software
on my pc, using a whopping 40 Mb. So I quickly uninstalled it again.
I prefer separate programmes for usenet, e-mail and rss anyway.

S.O. Meone

 

[mbmack]

I had a look at Thinderbird, as I like to further the cause of open
source software. It turned out to be memory hog like no other software
on my pc, using a whopping 40 Mb. So I quickly uninstalled it again.
I prefer separate programmes for usenet, e-mail and rss anyway.

S.O. Meone

I use the portable version its like 7mb. i put it on my computer and
sync it with my thumb drive.

 

[dszady]

@enews2.newsguy.com:




And WTF has Outlook Express got to do with FREEWARE ?

You, yes you Bill Turner, are one of the ones to kick the shit out of
anyone who mentions non-freeware ..... so why the f**k this post ?

I used to think your opinion was sometimes well reasoned, but now ....

Plonk

Hey Doc,
Ah. My first plonk with Thunderbird.
You don't have anything useful to say anyway.
Consider yourself plonked.
What's that noise? Oh ya. Ploink!!!
Hitting the toilet.