Multiple user groups and permissions

J

johnsuth

Advice in this forum talks about adding program shortcuts to the All
Users desktop so that all users can execute the program, not just the
admin user who installed it.

This overlooks the fact that many application programs write "cookies"
to .ini, .log or .tmp files in the program folder. Limited users do not
automatically have change permission to program folders, therefore
cannot write the changes, so the program fails.

The whole point of security and permissions is to prevent idiots from
stuffing up a perfectly good environment, so administrators don't want
to hand out change permissions to limited users.

I will be pleased to read your thoughts on this dilemma.
 
M

Mike D

go to the folder the exe is in and give them write permission, maybe full
control permission then hide the folder.
Mike
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Advice in this forum talks about adding program shortcuts to the All
Users desktop so that all users can execute the program, not just
the
admin user who installed it.

This overlooks the fact that many application programs write
"cookies"
to .ini, .log or .tmp files in the program folder. Limited users do
not automatically have change permission to program folders,
therefore
cannot write the changes, so the program fails.

The whole point of security and permissions is to prevent idiots
from
stuffing up a perfectly good environment, so administrators don't
want
to hand out change permissions to limited users.

I will be pleased to read your thoughts on this dilemma.


This is quite common if the software was designed for Win9x/Me, or
if it was intended for WinNT/2K/XP, but was improperly designed. Quite
simply, the installation routine for this application doesn't "know"
how to handle individual user profiles, or the application tries to
make changes to "off-limits" sections of the registry. Quite often,
you can make this software available to other users by _copying_ the
Start Menu folder and Desktop folder shortcuts from the user profile
from which the software was installed in the corresponding folders in
the user profile(s) in which you'd like the software to be accessible.
If the application is something that can/should be made available to
all current and future users, copying the shortcuts into the
corresponding locations of the All Users profile will do the trick.

NOTE: This may not work if the software requires access to parts
of the hard drive and/or registry that are not normally accessible to
regular users. (This won't occur if the application was properly
written.) If this does prove to be the case, however, you're left
with two options: Either grant the necessary users appropriate higher
access privileges (either as Power Users or local administrators), or
replace the application with one that was properly designed
specifically for WinNT/2K/XP.

Some Programs Do Not Work If You Log On from Limited Account
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q307091

Additionally, here are a couple of tips suggested, in a reply to a
different post, by MS-MVP Kent W. England:

"If your game or application works with admin accounts, but not with
limited accounts, you can fix it to allow limited users to access the
program files folder with "change" capability rather than "read" which
is the default.

C:\>cacls "Program Files\appfolder" /e /t /p users:c

where "appfolder" is the folder where the application is installed.

If you wish to undo these changes, then run

C:\>cacls "Program Files\appfolder" /e /t /p users:r

If you still have a problem with running the program or saving
settings on limited accounts, you may need to change permissions on
the registry keys. Run regedit.exe and go to HKLM\Software\vendor\app,
where "vendor\app" is the key that the software vendor used for your
specific program. Change the permissions on this key to allow Users
full control."

--

Bruce Chambers

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