msmpeng.exe-nodisk Message during full scan by MS Defender Beta 2


G

Guest

After completing a quick Scan with no obvious issues i changed the optionds
to perform a Full scan at the top of the hour.

During Fill scan the error message box 'msmpeng.exe-no disk" appeared and
gave the option buttons Cancel/try again/continue.

None of the cancel/try again/ continue options would close the file and
remove the message box.

I then tried to clse the file with Task Manager which didnt work either. I
then shut down the machine with the Start -Shut down, the message box still
would not close. After some coaxing and clicking/tickling the machine
evetualy shut down after briefly showing me glimpse of some strange message
boxes.

Does anybody know why defender causes this exe to run and how can i resolve
the issue.
 
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Steve Dodson [MSFT]

We are aware of this issue and working on a resolution.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

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G

Guest

my low tech workaraound was to put a blank foppy disk in drive a and let MS
Defender run. Obviously not a viable solution for MS but it vstopped the
error box from popping up and the program looping around. MS Defender did a
full scan with no problems.

Steve Dodson said:
We are aware of this issue and working on a resolution.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
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originated.
nick said:
After completing a quick Scan with no obvious issues i changed the
optionds
to perform a Full scan at the top of the hour.

During Fill scan the error message box 'msmpeng.exe-no disk" appeared and
gave the option buttons Cancel/try again/continue.

None of the cancel/try again/ continue options would close the file and
remove the message box.

I then tried to clse the file with Task Manager which didnt work either.
I
then shut down the machine with the Start -Shut down, the message box
still
would not close. After some coaxing and clicking/tickling the machine
evetualy shut down after briefly showing me glimpse of some strange
message
boxes.

Does anybody know why defender causes this exe to run and how can i
resolve
the issue.
 
B

Bill Sanderson

I'm not sure if this info is still current, since Steve didn't post it. I
have a machine with this issue, but wasn't able to get to it to try this out
today:
----
(Steve Dodson wrote)

Can you try this?


1) Uninstall WD thru Add and Remove Programs

2) Launch cmd prompt

3) MsiExec.exe /x {A5CC2A09-E9D3-49EC-923D-03874BBD4C2C}

4) Delete all contents of Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Definition Updates

5) Reinstall WD
--

nick said:
my low tech workaraound was to put a blank foppy disk in drive a and let
MS
Defender run. Obviously not a viable solution for MS but it vstopped the
error box from popping up and the program looping around. MS Defender did
a
full scan with no problems.

Steve Dodson said:
We are aware of this issue and working on a resolution.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses to this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
nick said:
After completing a quick Scan with no obvious issues i changed the
optionds
to perform a Full scan at the top of the hour.

During Fill scan the error message box 'msmpeng.exe-no disk" appeared
and
gave the option buttons Cancel/try again/continue.

None of the cancel/try again/ continue options would close the file and
remove the message box.

I then tried to clse the file with Task Manager which didnt work
either.
I
then shut down the machine with the Start -Shut down, the message box
still
would not close. After some coaxing and clicking/tickling the machine
evetualy shut down after briefly showing me glimpse of some strange
message
boxes.

Does anybody know why defender causes this exe to run and how can i
resolve
the issue.
 
G

Guest

I have not tried the Uninstall sugestion yet but i have just run MSDefender
Beta 2 update 1.13.1276.3 (KB392519).

The error message 'mempeng.exe-no disk' is still coming up, again i put in a
blank floppy disk in the a: drive and the MSDefender program completed with
no other obvious issues.

However i noticed my firewall asking for permission to connect
'mpcmdrun.exe' to the internet which i allowed, is this a MS program and what
is it doing?

Bill Sanderson said:
I'm not sure if this info is still current, since Steve didn't post it. I
have a machine with this issue, but wasn't able to get to it to try this out
today:
----
(Steve Dodson wrote)

Can you try this?


1) Uninstall WD thru Add and Remove Programs

2) Launch cmd prompt

3) MsiExec.exe /x {A5CC2A09-E9D3-49EC-923D-03874BBD4C2C}

4) Delete all contents of Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Definition Updates

5) Reinstall WD
--

nick said:
my low tech workaraound was to put a blank foppy disk in drive a and let
MS
Defender run. Obviously not a viable solution for MS but it vstopped the
error box from popping up and the program looping around. MS Defender did
a
full scan with no problems.

Steve Dodson said:
We are aware of this issue and working on a resolution.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses to this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
After completing a quick Scan with no obvious issues i changed the
optionds
to perform a Full scan at the top of the hour.

During Fill scan the error message box 'msmpeng.exe-no disk" appeared
and
gave the option buttons Cancel/try again/continue.

None of the cancel/try again/ continue options would close the file and
remove the message box.

I then tried to clse the file with Task Manager which didnt work
either.
I
then shut down the machine with the Start -Shut down, the message box
still
would not close. After some coaxing and clicking/tickling the machine
evetualy shut down after briefly showing me glimpse of some strange
message
boxes.

Does anybody know why defender causes this exe to run and how can i
resolve
the issue.
 
B

Bill Sanderson

That is the command line executable which, in fact, is what does the scan.
If you are set to ask for updates before scanning, that firewall prompt
would be caused by that .exe going for the definitions.

You can find this executable in the \program filews\windows defender folder,
and you can script or schedule it to your tastes--it has parameters for
signature updates or full or limited scans, run by admin or limited users.

--

nick said:
I have not tried the Uninstall sugestion yet but i have just run MSDefender
Beta 2 update 1.13.1276.3 (KB392519).

The error message 'mempeng.exe-no disk' is still coming up, again i put in
a
blank floppy disk in the a: drive and the MSDefender program completed
with
no other obvious issues.

However i noticed my firewall asking for permission to connect
'mpcmdrun.exe' to the internet which i allowed, is this a MS program and
what
is it doing?

Bill Sanderson said:
I'm not sure if this info is still current, since Steve didn't post it.
I
have a machine with this issue, but wasn't able to get to it to try this
out
today:
----
(Steve Dodson wrote)

Can you try this?


1) Uninstall WD thru Add and Remove Programs

2) Launch cmd prompt

3) MsiExec.exe /x {A5CC2A09-E9D3-49EC-923D-03874BBD4C2C}

4) Delete all contents of Directory of C:\Documents and
Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Definition Updates

5) Reinstall WD
--

nick said:
my low tech workaraound was to put a blank foppy disk in drive a and
let
MS
Defender run. Obviously not a viable solution for MS but it vstopped
the
error box from popping up and the program looping around. MS Defender
did
a
full scan with no problems.

:

We are aware of this issue and working on a resolution.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses to
this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
After completing a quick Scan with no obvious issues i changed the
optionds
to perform a Full scan at the top of the hour.

During Fill scan the error message box 'msmpeng.exe-no disk"
appeared
and
gave the option buttons Cancel/try again/continue.

None of the cancel/try again/ continue options would close the file
and
remove the message box.

I then tried to clse the file with Task Manager which didnt work
either.
I
then shut down the machine with the Start -Shut down, the message
box
still
would not close. After some coaxing and clicking/tickling the
machine
evetualy shut down after briefly showing me glimpse of some strange
message
boxes.

Does anybody know why defender causes this exe to run and how can i
resolve
the issue.
 
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G

Guest

Thanks Bill,

I think it asked for internet connction permission at the end of the scan
which is a bit late for updates I would have thought. Anyhow i was feeling
adventurous so i let it through.

Bill Sanderson said:
That is the command line executable which, in fact, is what does the scan.
If you are set to ask for updates before scanning, that firewall prompt
would be caused by that .exe going for the definitions.

You can find this executable in the \program filews\windows defender folder,
and you can script or schedule it to your tastes--it has parameters for
signature updates or full or limited scans, run by admin or limited users.

--

nick said:
I have not tried the Uninstall sugestion yet but i have just run MSDefender
Beta 2 update 1.13.1276.3 (KB392519).

The error message 'mempeng.exe-no disk' is still coming up, again i put in
a
blank floppy disk in the a: drive and the MSDefender program completed
with
no other obvious issues.

However i noticed my firewall asking for permission to connect
'mpcmdrun.exe' to the internet which i allowed, is this a MS program and
what
is it doing?

Bill Sanderson said:
I'm not sure if this info is still current, since Steve didn't post it.
I
have a machine with this issue, but wasn't able to get to it to try this
out
today:
----
(Steve Dodson wrote)

Can you try this?


1) Uninstall WD thru Add and Remove Programs

2) Launch cmd prompt

3) MsiExec.exe /x {A5CC2A09-E9D3-49EC-923D-03874BBD4C2C}

4) Delete all contents of Directory of C:\Documents and
Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Definition Updates

5) Reinstall WD
--

my low tech workaraound was to put a blank foppy disk in drive a and
let
MS
Defender run. Obviously not a viable solution for MS but it vstopped
the
error box from popping up and the program looping around. MS Defender
did
a
full scan with no problems.

:

We are aware of this issue and working on a resolution.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses to
this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
After completing a quick Scan with no obvious issues i changed the
optionds
to perform a Full scan at the top of the hour.

During Fill scan the error message box 'msmpeng.exe-no disk"
appeared
and
gave the option buttons Cancel/try again/continue.

None of the cancel/try again/ continue options would close the file
and
remove the message box.

I then tried to clse the file with Task Manager which didnt work
either.
I
then shut down the machine with the Start -Shut down, the message
box
still
would not close. After some coaxing and clicking/tickling the
machine
evetualy shut down after briefly showing me glimpse of some strange
message
boxes.

Does anybody know why defender causes this exe to run and how can i
resolve
the issue.
 
B

Bill Sanderson

End of the scan would presumably be reporting results to spynet, assuming
you opted into spynet reporting?

--

nick said:
Thanks Bill,

I think it asked for internet connction permission at the end of the scan
which is a bit late for updates I would have thought. Anyhow i was
feeling
adventurous so i let it through.

Bill Sanderson said:
That is the command line executable which, in fact, is what does the
scan.
If you are set to ask for updates before scanning, that firewall prompt
would be caused by that .exe going for the definitions.

You can find this executable in the \program filews\windows defender
folder,
and you can script or schedule it to your tastes--it has parameters for
signature updates or full or limited scans, run by admin or limited
users.

--

nick said:
I have not tried the Uninstall sugestion yet but i have just run
MSDefender
Beta 2 update 1.13.1276.3 (KB392519).

The error message 'mempeng.exe-no disk' is still coming up, again i put
in
a
blank floppy disk in the a: drive and the MSDefender program completed
with
no other obvious issues.

However i noticed my firewall asking for permission to connect
'mpcmdrun.exe' to the internet which i allowed, is this a MS program
and
what
is it doing?

:

I'm not sure if this info is still current, since Steve didn't post
it.
I
have a machine with this issue, but wasn't able to get to it to try
this
out
today:
----
(Steve Dodson wrote)

Can you try this?


1) Uninstall WD thru Add and Remove Programs

2) Launch cmd prompt

3) MsiExec.exe /x {A5CC2A09-E9D3-49EC-923D-03874BBD4C2C}

4) Delete all contents of Directory of C:\Documents and
Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Definition Updates

5) Reinstall WD
--

my low tech workaraound was to put a blank foppy disk in drive a and
let
MS
Defender run. Obviously not a viable solution for MS but it
vstopped
the
error box from popping up and the program looping around. MS
Defender
did
a
full scan with no problems.

:

We are aware of this issue and working on a resolution.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified
at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses to
this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
After completing a quick Scan with no obvious issues i changed
the
optionds
to perform a Full scan at the top of the hour.

During Fill scan the error message box 'msmpeng.exe-no disk"
appeared
and
gave the option buttons Cancel/try again/continue.

None of the cancel/try again/ continue options would close the
file
and
remove the message box.

I then tried to clse the file with Task Manager which didnt work
either.
I
then shut down the machine with the Start -Shut down, the
message
box
still
would not close. After some coaxing and clicking/tickling the
machine
evetualy shut down after briefly showing me glimpse of some
strange
message
boxes.

Does anybody know why defender causes this exe to run and how can
i
resolve
the issue.
 
G

Guest

Thanks Bill. That was my hunch aswell.

My problem list is growing.

My AVG Antivirus checker performance has diimproved quite markedly from
taking 45 minutess to now taking over 2 hours. The file list being scanned
seems to have balooned

IE6 is also misbehaving with non response lock ups.

Are these known features with Defender Beta 2 and will later releases tidy
these issues uo or do we have to remove this rubbish ourselves (by rubbish i
mean the mushrooming file list).

The uninstall option mentioned earlier is not very appetising as i remember
reading somewhere that Defender Beta 2 wont reinstall until the next release
is available published.





BillSanderson said:
End of the scan would presumably be reporting results to spynet, assuming
you opted into spynet reporting?

--

nick said:
Thanks Bill,

I think it asked for internet connction permission at the end of the scan
which is a bit late for updates I would have thought. Anyhow i was
feeling
adventurous so i let it through.

Bill Sanderson said:
That is the command line executable which, in fact, is what does the
scan.
If you are set to ask for updates before scanning, that firewall prompt
would be caused by that .exe going for the definitions.

You can find this executable in the \program filews\windows defender
folder,
and you can script or schedule it to your tastes--it has parameters for
signature updates or full or limited scans, run by admin or limited
users.

--

I have not tried the Uninstall sugestion yet but i have just run
MSDefender
Beta 2 update 1.13.1276.3 (KB392519).

The error message 'mempeng.exe-no disk' is still coming up, again i put
in
a
blank floppy disk in the a: drive and the MSDefender program completed
with
no other obvious issues.

However i noticed my firewall asking for permission to connect
'mpcmdrun.exe' to the internet which i allowed, is this a MS program
and
what
is it doing?

:

I'm not sure if this info is still current, since Steve didn't post
it.
I
have a machine with this issue, but wasn't able to get to it to try
this
out
today:
----
(Steve Dodson wrote)

Can you try this?


1) Uninstall WD thru Add and Remove Programs

2) Launch cmd prompt

3) MsiExec.exe /x {A5CC2A09-E9D3-49EC-923D-03874BBD4C2C}

4) Delete all contents of Directory of C:\Documents and
Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Definition Updates

5) Reinstall WD
--

my low tech workaraound was to put a blank foppy disk in drive a and
let
MS
Defender run. Obviously not a viable solution for MS but it
vstopped
the
error box from popping up and the program looping around. MS
Defender
did
a
full scan with no problems.

:

We are aware of this issue and working on a resolution.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified
at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses to
this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
originated.
After completing a quick Scan with no obvious issues i changed
the
optionds
to perform a Full scan at the top of the hour.

During Fill scan the error message box 'msmpeng.exe-no disk"
appeared
and
gave the option buttons Cancel/try again/continue.

None of the cancel/try again/ continue options would close the
file
and
remove the message box.

I then tried to clse the file with Task Manager which didnt work
either.
I
then shut down the machine with the Start -Shut down, the
message
box
still
would not close. After some coaxing and clicking/tickling the
machine
evetualy shut down after briefly showing me glimpse of some
strange
message
boxes.

Does anybody know why defender causes this exe to run and how can
i
resolve
the issue.
 
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B

Bill Sanderson

There's a bug involving updates which comes into play if you uninstall and
then reinstall. There's a published KB article on how to work around this:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;915105

I don't have ideas about the balooning file numbers--another post I've just
read talks about stopping a scan when it hit over 400,000 objects, which the
user felt was clearly over the top....I don't have any useful thoughts about
what might be going on, I'm afraid.

--

nick said:
Thanks Bill. That was my hunch aswell.

My problem list is growing.

My AVG Antivirus checker performance has diimproved quite markedly from
taking 45 minutess to now taking over 2 hours. The file list being
scanned
seems to have balooned

IE6 is also misbehaving with non response lock ups.

Are these known features with Defender Beta 2 and will later releases
tidy
these issues uo or do we have to remove this rubbish ourselves (by rubbish
i
mean the mushrooming file list).

The uninstall option mentioned earlier is not very appetising as i
remember
reading somewhere that Defender Beta 2 wont reinstall until the next
release
is available published.





BillSanderson said:
End of the scan would presumably be reporting results to spynet, assuming
you opted into spynet reporting?

--

nick said:
Thanks Bill,

I think it asked for internet connction permission at the end of the
scan
which is a bit late for updates I would have thought. Anyhow i was
feeling
adventurous so i let it through.

:

That is the command line executable which, in fact, is what does the
scan.
If you are set to ask for updates before scanning, that firewall
prompt
would be caused by that .exe going for the definitions.

You can find this executable in the \program filews\windows defender
folder,
and you can script or schedule it to your tastes--it has parameters
for
signature updates or full or limited scans, run by admin or limited
users.

--

I have not tried the Uninstall sugestion yet but i have just run
MSDefender
Beta 2 update 1.13.1276.3 (KB392519).

The error message 'mempeng.exe-no disk' is still coming up, again i
put
in
a
blank floppy disk in the a: drive and the MSDefender program
completed
with
no other obvious issues.

However i noticed my firewall asking for permission to connect
'mpcmdrun.exe' to the internet which i allowed, is this a MS program
and
what
is it doing?

:

I'm not sure if this info is still current, since Steve didn't post
it.
I
have a machine with this issue, but wasn't able to get to it to try
this
out
today:
----
(Steve Dodson wrote)

Can you try this?


1) Uninstall WD thru Add and Remove Programs

2) Launch cmd prompt

3) MsiExec.exe /x {A5CC2A09-E9D3-49EC-923D-03874BBD4C2C}

4) Delete all contents of Directory of C:\Documents and
Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Definition
Updates

5) Reinstall WD
--

my low tech workaraound was to put a blank foppy disk in drive a
and
let
MS
Defender run. Obviously not a viable solution for MS but it
vstopped
the
error box from popping up and the program looping around. MS
Defender
did
a
full scan with no problems.

:

We are aware of this issue and working on a resolution.

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
Windows Defender Beta Lead
MCSE, CISSP
http://blogs.technet.com/stevedod
--

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no
rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms
specified
at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses
to
this
message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which
they
originated.
After completing a quick Scan with no obvious issues i changed
the
optionds
to perform a Full scan at the top of the hour.

During Fill scan the error message box 'msmpeng.exe-no disk"
appeared
and
gave the option buttons Cancel/try again/continue.

None of the cancel/try again/ continue options would close the
file
and
remove the message box.

I then tried to clse the file with Task Manager which didnt
work
either.
I
then shut down the machine with the Start -Shut down, the
message
box
still
would not close. After some coaxing and clicking/tickling the
machine
evetualy shut down after briefly showing me glimpse of some
strange
message
boxes.

Does anybody know why defender causes this exe to run and how
can
i
resolve
the issue.
 

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