MSE on w2k

[Anonymous Bob]

I know...I know, but that just the way I am.

I'm running a patched WD now. Has anyone heard anything about the
feasibility of running MSE on w2k?

 

[Ǝиçεl]

Minimum system requirements for Microsoft Security Essentials Beta
Operating System: Windows XP (Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3); Windows
Vista; Windows 7 (Beta or Release Candidate)
For Windows XP, a Personal Computer with a:
CPU with clock speed of 500 MHz or higher
Memory: 256 MB RAM or higher
For Windows Vista and Windows 7, a Personal Computer with a:
CPU with clock speed of 1.0 GHz or higher
Memory: 1 GB RAM or higher
VGA (Display): 800 x 600 or higher
Storage: 140 MB of available hard-disk space
An Internet connection is required for installation and to download the
latest virus and spyware definitions for Microsoft Microsoft Security
Essentials.
Internet Browser:
Windows Internet Explorer 6.0 or later
Mozilla Firefox 2.0 or later

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Forefront used to run on w2k--not sure whether it does now or not. You can
try via the following blog post:

http://blogs.technet.com/quenguyen/...lone-agent-only-120-day-evaluation-guide.aspx

This is a small download--probably worth trying. It gets you down to the
MSI level--I'm trying to remember whether there are tricks to working with
the MSI to change compatibility settings?

 

[Anonymous Bob]

Forefront used to run on w2k--not sure whether it does now or not. You can
try via the following blog post:

http://blogs.technet.com/quenguyen/...lone-agent-only-120-day-evaluation-guide.aspx

This is a small download--probably worth trying. It gets you down to the
MSI level--I'm trying to remember whether there are tricks to working with
the MSI to change compatibility settings?

There was some editing to get WD to run:
***********
Download Orca and install.
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2004/07/12/180792.aspx

Open the WD msi with Orca.
Go to "Launch Condition".
On the right-hand side of the screen you'll see: "VersionNT > 500".
Right click on this value and choose CUT.
Now save the file, run it and allow to update.
************

I might have to hunt that down again.

 

[Stu]

My Dear Engel,

Is that all !!? 140MB or GB? Not that I`m suggesting MS develops resource
intensive HD consuming applications. Oh No!! Did you read that info before or
after visiting Spec Savers? Spec- tacular!!

Stu

 

[Ǝиçεl]

Hi Stu,

I have the 7.51 MB D/L on mi desktop.

Probably after unziping the exe we end having the 140MB.

Any way, I have 313 days left with NIS 2009, and so far I have the WD runing
with out complains fron either program. Why is WD runing hand by hand with
NIS? I don't have the answer. I notice the service for WD was on delay start
up, and I change to regular start, probably SUPERAntiSpyware did the change.
Now I don't see SAS in the task bar. So when I remember, y run SAS in demand
only.

Today I'm ready to start testing MSE, but who knows tomorrow.

Until then, take care my friend
-=-

 

[Ǝиçεl]

Hey Stu, I notice my D/L was for XP and I'm running Vista32.

Back to square one.

Let see if is not too late to D/L the correct.

Double check what really they give you.

Watch out
-=-

 

[Bill Sanderson]

I did see the support list for the Forefront client just last night, but my
mind is pretty fuzzy these days--I'm getting ready (45 minute to go!) to go
down to Blacksburg VA to be tech support for an annual conference of between
1000 and 1800 people--at any rate, I think that 2000 is still supported by
the forefront client.

 

[Stu]

Hi Engel,

That is an impressive D/L speed you have there buddy Mine is just the 1MB
but it copes with most MS applications - provided I take a day or so off work
<smile>

Almost snap! I wish I could answer your question with WD and NAV also. Maybe
it has something to do with the fact WD is not such a comprehensive AS
application. I wonder what MSE will bring us as its supposed to be all things
that WD is not and more besides. I`m running NAV 2009 with WD. It seems to
come with a heavy arsenal of protection that one would not expect from an
Average AV program. Which begs the question from a mere mortal such as myself
these days. At what point does an AV prog become an AS one and vice versa -
not to mention a firewall? There was a time when I knew the difference. NAV
even told me to uninstall ZA before continuing which I ignored. Anyways, they
all seem to work well together. My subs run out mid July for the def updates
and I`m wondering what charges will be involved at that point. A quick glance
at my account tells me I`m not going to be billed for the application upgrade
but we will see. I was prompted for a complete (seemingly free) update which
I went along with (after checking things out) in May.

I guess you will be checking out MSE as we speak? I`ve been reading Mary
Jo`s comments with interest.

Stu

 

[Anonymous Bob]

There was some editing to get WD to run:
***********
Download Orca and install.
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2004/07/12/180792.aspx

Open the WD msi with Orca.
Go to "Launch Condition".
On the right-hand side of the screen you'll see: "VersionNT > 500".
Right click on this value and choose CUT.
Now save the file, run it and allow to update.
************

I might have to hunt that down again.

Orca isn't much help with MSE. The installation package isn't an MSI. When I
tried to install it on w2k the last thing I saw flash in the install window
was "setup" then it told me it wasn't a 32 bit program. The same binary
loaded without a problem on XP.

First quick scan on a very lightly loaded XP system took about 10 minutes.
Second quick scan took about 20 seconds. I then did a custom scan of my d
and e drives, Xp and w2k respectively, which took well over an hour. I do
wish they would add a pause button. Although you can continue using the
machine during the scan it's very slow.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Hmm - Did you use my link? It is a bit off-color--but it is a Microsoft
staff blog. The download it links to is a RAR archive, of all things. It
requires a command prompt install using an executable with a /nomom switch,
but: You can also simply install MP_ambits.msi which is the meat of the
package.

You can also download the full beta of Sterling(sp?) and get entered in a
prize contest to boot--it's very large, but expand the ISO using your
favorite ISO mounting tool, find mp_ambits.msi and run it.

You should be good for 120 days, anyway. This will be a fairly similar
experience to MSE, I think. Fewer UI bugs, and lots more manageability
which I've never investigated much--but the same underlying engine, and,
last I checked, identical definitions.

 

[Anonymous Bob]

Hmm - Did you use my link? It is a bit off-color--but it is a Microsoft
staff blog. The download it links to is a RAR archive, of all things. It
requires a command prompt install using an executable with a /nomom switch,
but: You can also simply install MP_ambits.msi which is the meat of the
package.

You can also download the full beta of Sterling(sp?) and get entered in a
prize contest to boot--it's very large, but expand the ISO using your
favorite ISO mounting tool, find mp_ambits.msi and run it.

You should be good for 120 days, anyway. This will be a fairly similar
experience to MSE, I think. Fewer UI bugs, and lots more manageability
which I've never investigated much--but the same underlying engine, and,
last I checked, identical definitions.

I appreciate your bringing that to my attention.

I looked at it and I was intimidated. If it were a long term solution I
might have given it a try, but I getting old and I'm not quite as
adventuresome as I once was. I think it has something to do with a shorter
attention span and decreased powers on concentration. (perhaps macular
degeneration has something to do with that as well).
;-)

For now WD still runs. Should WD go away at some point, Avast! and Outlook
(there is an AS component) offer some protection. I'm planning on going into
a long period of depression when w2k is no longer a viable option. Hee hee.

I'm not too concerned about it in reality. I have XP and PCLinuxOS on the
same machine. I'm still of a mind that w2k is my favorite (and default)
system.

Old man...old machine...old OS. It all makes perfect sense to me.

Thanks again,
Bob

 

[Anonymous Bob]

For now WD still runs. Should WD go away at some point, Avast! and Outlook
(there is an AS component) offer some protection. I'm planning on going into
a long period of depression when w2k is no longer a viable option. Hee

hee.

Correction...Make that Avast! and Outpost.

I wouldn't want to confuse you.

Bob

 

[Bill Sanderson]

I still have fond memories of command-line Microsoft OS/2.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

I'm certainly using Outlook as an anti-spam tool--I have a silly tendency to
open the obvious phishes early in the morning and report them if live to the
safety thingy.

The time between alarm events in my office is getting longer--it had been a
couple of years I think when we hit an infected legit web site a month or so
back. I don't want to tell anyone that antivirus is unnecessary, but for
the prudent person, the events that would prove that necessity are less
frequent than they used to be.