MSAS to be discontinued?

[Bill]

I attended a TS2 seminar last week and the presenter said
some legal issues were cropping up around MSAS and MSAS
was to be discontinued. As of yet, I've seen no mention
of it here and don't see how the presenter could be so
misinformed. So..... is there any truth to his TS2
revalation and are there any more details concerning this
issue?

 

[Bill Sanderson]

I think it is going to take Steve Dodson to field this one.

 

[D@annyBoy]

oh then perhaps I should uninstall MSAS and forget about it

btw I heard that MS is going to return all retained profits to the
shareholders, so better start buying MS's shares and then you better start
selling because MS is going broke very soon, but after selling you should
start buying because Bill is going to pump in a massive injection of
capital.

Until MS makes an official announcement, why listen to rumours? So what, if
MS drops MSAS?

--

D@nnyBoy
Have you tried posting your problems
not related to MS AntiSpyware to
news://msnews.microsoft.com

and please don't bother to send me private mail
because I don't check my mailbox regularly

 

[Steve Dodson [MSFT]]

I have not heard of this, and is untrue. Where was this stated at?

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[Bill Sanderson]

This is TS2:

http://www.technetbriefings.com/

but which, where, and what presenter, are the question, of course.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

I have not heard of this, and is untrue. Where was this stated at?

--
-steve

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PSS Security

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I attended a TS2 seminar last week and the presenter said
some legal issues were cropping up around MSAS and MSAS
was to be discontinued. As of yet, I've seen no mention
of it here and don't see how the presenter could be so
misinformed. So..... is there any truth to his TS2
revalation and are there any more details concerning this
issue?

 

[Bill]

Bill, Technet and TS2 are 2 different events.

This is the TS2 link:
http://www.ts2seminars.com/

The TS2 seminar was Tuesday, 04/05/05 in North
Charleston, SC.
The presenter was Indy Boteju. I don't have the exact
quote so I can only paraphrase, but it went something
like this:
Microsoft has run into some legal issues with the anti
spyware software similar to the issues with Windows Media
Player (I took it more to mean the IE/ Netscape
situation.... just my take on it), and would be
discontinued when the Beta test period expires. I then
approached him during a break to verify what he said, and
his reply to that query was the software would continue
to run but there would be no spyware definition updates
and thus would be pretty useless.

He seemed to know what he was talking about and I came
here looking for verification.

The seminar info is:

Event Code: 1032260330
Event Name: TS2 Channel Partner Briefing - Mobile
Computing, SBS SP1, Magellan and Media Center 2005

Location: Theater - Regal Charles Towne Square 18
Room:
City: North Charleston

Start Date: 04/05/2005
Start Time: 01:00 PM

End Date: 04/05/2005
End Time: 05:00 PM

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
This is TS2:

http://www.technetbriefings.com/

but which, where, and what presenter, are the question, of course.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

I have not heard of this, and is untrue. Where was this stated at?

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
MCSE, CISSP
PSS Security

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I attended a TS2 seminar last week and the presenter said
some legal issues were cropping up around MSAS and MSAS
was to be discontinued. As of yet, I've seen no mention
of it here and don't see how the presenter could be so
misinformed. So..... is there any truth to his TS2
revalation and are there any more details concerning this
issue?

.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Thanks--sorry for confusing the two series!
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Bill, Technet and TS2 are 2 different events.

This is the TS2 link:
http://www.ts2seminars.com/

The TS2 seminar was Tuesday, 04/05/05 in North
Charleston, SC.
The presenter was Indy Boteju. I don't have the exact
quote so I can only paraphrase, but it went something
like this:
Microsoft has run into some legal issues with the anti
spyware software similar to the issues with Windows Media
Player (I took it more to mean the IE/ Netscape
situation.... just my take on it), and would be
discontinued when the Beta test period expires. I then
approached him during a break to verify what he said, and
his reply to that query was the software would continue
to run but there would be no spyware definition updates
and thus would be pretty useless.

He seemed to know what he was talking about and I came
here looking for verification.

The seminar info is:

Event Code: 1032260330
Event Name: TS2 Channel Partner Briefing - Mobile
Computing, SBS SP1, Magellan and Media Center 2005

Location: Theater - Regal Charles Towne Square 18
Room:
City: North Charleston

Start Date: 04/05/2005
Start Time: 01:00 PM

End Date: 04/05/2005
End Time: 05:00 PM

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
This is TS2:

http://www.technetbriefings.com/

but which, where, and what presenter, are the question, of course.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

I have not heard of this, and is untrue. Where was this stated at?

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
MCSE, CISSP
PSS Security

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I attended a TS2 seminar last week and the presenter said
some legal issues were cropping up around MSAS and MSAS
was to be discontinued. As of yet, I've seen no mention
of it here and don't see how the presenter could be so
misinformed. So..... is there any truth to his TS2
revalation and are there any more details concerning this
issue?

.

 

[Bill]

Why so negative D@nnyboy?

I'm a technician who has run this software for some time
now with excellent results. In fact I am so pleased with
it, I am installing it on my clients' PCs. And, so far, I
haven't received the first complaint. MSAS actually works
for the end user. It will remove or block some of the
nastiest spyware I've run into and reset a hijacked home
page without needing 3 or 4 different tools to actually
clean the machine. I've had much better results with MSAS
than AdAware or Spybot and am extremely pleased that
Microsoft has entered the battle!(Now if MS would
introduce a working spam blocker and an awsome
antivirus... well, the virtual world would be a much
cleaner safer place wouldn't it????) I for one appreciate
high quality software that actually does what it's billed
to do without hosing your system. If you can't appreciate
that, maybe you should remove MSAS and go download a
whole heapin' helpin' of Newdotnet and a side of CoolWeb.
Good luck to ya! :spit:

 

[Bill]

TS2 is a technical seminar designed for IT Professionals,
sponsored by Microsoft, and presented by trained
Microsoft professionals. The information presented is
usually extremely accurate and can be considered the
final word on an issue or product. I would never
categorize information disseminated during a TS2 seminar
as a "rumour".

 

[D@annyBoy]

apparently you missed my point

this is the Internet
Until MS makes an official statement, forget about all the hearsay

I am just a computer user who likes testing software and have a kick when I
break my system.
And then I simply send my bug reports to MS

--

D@nnyBoy
Have you tried posting your problems
not related to MS AntiSpyware to
news://msnews.microsoft.com

and please don't bother to send me private mail
because I don't check my mailbox regularly

 

[plun]

Thanks--sorry for confusing the two series!

Well, in US you have Stella and who knows about
MSAS.........

http://www.stellaawards.com/2004.html

 

[Bill Sanderson]

I hear you. The city I live in has something of a reputation. Folks go to
some lengths to avoid the situation of being able to be sued in
Philadelphia.

My wife was on a jury here for what seemed to her to be an open and shut
case--no testimony by the defense, good evidence by the prosecution. Other
jurors didn't see it that way initially--"reasonable doubt" became "is there
any way we can imagine that it might have happened that he wasn't guilty?"
In the end, they were able to agree, but she was quite startled--thought at
one point they'd have a hung jury (i.e. not be able to reach a decision.)

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Having meditated some on this thread, (and stirred up the waters some,
too!)--here's my suspicion of what may have been going on.

I suspect that in this dialog between the Microsoft presenter and you, there
was confusion between a third-party product also based on Giant's
technology, and Microsoft's product based on the same technology--and that
the information that you came away with, as a consequence, was misleading to
say the least.

I'm not going to suggest which of you was confused about which product was
being talked about--except that I would say that your posts have seemed
quite clear on the subject.

If I'm correct, this might be a pretty sensitive issue, so I'm trying to
take some care in describing it.

In today's public chat with Security management at Microsoft, it was clearly
stated that this information is incorrect, and that the program is moving
forward as planned.

I've done all the stirring I'm gonna do--this is settled to my
satisfaction--and I hope to yours, too! I failed to capture the transcript
of todays chat--but when it is published I can put the excerpt up here.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Bill, Technet and TS2 are 2 different events.

This is the TS2 link:
http://www.ts2seminars.com/

The TS2 seminar was Tuesday, 04/05/05 in North
Charleston, SC.
The presenter was Indy Boteju. I don't have the exact
quote so I can only paraphrase, but it went something
like this:
Microsoft has run into some legal issues with the anti
spyware software similar to the issues with Windows Media
Player (I took it more to mean the IE/ Netscape
situation.... just my take on it), and would be
discontinued when the Beta test period expires. I then
approached him during a break to verify what he said, and
his reply to that query was the software would continue
to run but there would be no spyware definition updates
and thus would be pretty useless.

He seemed to know what he was talking about and I came
here looking for verification.

The seminar info is:

Event Code: 1032260330
Event Name: TS2 Channel Partner Briefing - Mobile
Computing, SBS SP1, Magellan and Media Center 2005

Location: Theater - Regal Charles Towne Square 18
Room:
City: North Charleston

Start Date: 04/05/2005
Start Time: 01:00 PM

End Date: 04/05/2005
End Time: 05:00 PM

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
This is TS2:

http://www.technetbriefings.com/

but which, where, and what presenter, are the question, of course.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

I have not heard of this, and is untrue. Where was this stated at?

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
MCSE, CISSP
PSS Security

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I attended a TS2 seminar last week and the presenter said
some legal issues were cropping up around MSAS and MSAS
was to be discontinued. As of yet, I've seen no mention
of it here and don't see how the presenter could be so
misinformed. So..... is there any truth to his TS2
revalation and are there any more details concerning this
issue?

.

 

[Bill]

Thank you for the follow up. I assure you there was
substantial give and take on the issue with the entire
audience and I approached the presenter during a break to
check the status of the software.... ie: would it return
to Giant and still be available, was this the end of the
line, ect.? Then I was told there would be no future
definition updates though the software would still
function. (Useless but functional??) I also understand
the potential sensitivity of the issue and will not post
to this thread again. Once more, thank you for the follow
up.
Bill

-----Original Message-----
Having meditated some on this thread, (and stirred up the waters some,
too!)--here's my suspicion of what may have been going on.

I suspect that in this dialog between the Microsoft presenter and you, there
was confusion between a third-party product also based on Giant's
technology, and Microsoft's product based on the same technology--and that
the information that you came away with, as a consequence, was misleading to
say the least.

I'm not going to suggest which of you was confused about which product was
being talked about--except that I would say that your posts have seemed
quite clear on the subject.

If I'm correct, this might be a pretty sensitive issue, so I'm trying to
take some care in describing it.

In today's public chat with Security management at Microsoft, it was clearly
stated that this information is incorrect, and that the program is moving
forward as planned.

I've done all the stirring I'm gonna do--this is settled to my
satisfaction--and I hope to yours, too! I failed to capture the transcript
of todays chat--but when it is published I can put the excerpt up here.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Bill, Technet and TS2 are 2 different events.

This is the TS2 link:
http://www.ts2seminars.com/

The TS2 seminar was Tuesday, 04/05/05 in North
Charleston, SC.
The presenter was Indy Boteju. I don't have the exact
quote so I can only paraphrase, but it went something
like this:
Microsoft has run into some legal issues with the anti
spyware software similar to the issues with Windows Media
Player (I took it more to mean the IE/ Netscape
situation.... just my take on it), and would be
discontinued when the Beta test period expires. I then
approached him during a break to verify what he said, and
his reply to that query was the software would continue
to run but there would be no spyware definition updates
and thus would be pretty useless.

He seemed to know what he was talking about and I came
here looking for verification.

The seminar info is:

Event Code: 1032260330
Event Name: TS2 Channel Partner Briefing - Mobile
Computing, SBS SP1, Magellan and Media Center 2005

Location: Theater - Regal Charles Towne Square 18
Room:
City: North Charleston

Start Date: 04/05/2005
Start Time: 01:00 PM

End Date: 04/05/2005
End Time: 05:00 PM

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
This is TS2:

http://www.technetbriefings.com/

but which, where, and what presenter, are the question, of course.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

news:[email protected]

t.
com...

I have not heard of this, and is untrue. Where was

this
stated at?

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
MCSE, CISSP
PSS Security

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from
which they

originated.
I attended a TS2 seminar last week and the presenter said
some legal issues were cropping up around MSAS and MSAS
was to be discontinued. As of yet, I've seen no mention
of it here and don't see how the presenter could be so
misinformed. So..... is there any truth to his TS2
revalation and are there any more details concerning this
issue?




.

.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

If you want to drop me an email--chop the last two terms off my address, I'd
be glad to fill you in a bit more--I know that I wasn't doing justice to
your experience of the meeting!
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Thank you for the follow up. I assure you there was
substantial give and take on the issue with the entire
audience and I approached the presenter during a break to
check the status of the software.... ie: would it return
to Giant and still be available, was this the end of the
line, ect.? Then I was told there would be no future
definition updates though the software would still
function. (Useless but functional??) I also understand
the potential sensitivity of the issue and will not post
to this thread again. Once more, thank you for the follow
up.
Bill

-----Original Message-----
Having meditated some on this thread, (and stirred up the waters some,
too!)--here's my suspicion of what may have been going on.

I suspect that in this dialog between the Microsoft presenter and you, there
was confusion between a third-party product also based on Giant's
technology, and Microsoft's product based on the same technology--and that
the information that you came away with, as a consequence, was misleading to
say the least.

I'm not going to suggest which of you was confused about which product was
being talked about--except that I would say that your posts have seemed
quite clear on the subject.

If I'm correct, this might be a pretty sensitive issue, so I'm trying to
take some care in describing it.

In today's public chat with Security management at Microsoft, it was clearly
stated that this information is incorrect, and that the program is moving
forward as planned.

I've done all the stirring I'm gonna do--this is settled to my
satisfaction--and I hope to yours, too! I failed to capture the transcript
of todays chat--but when it is published I can put the excerpt up here.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Bill, Technet and TS2 are 2 different events.

This is the TS2 link:
http://www.ts2seminars.com/

The TS2 seminar was Tuesday, 04/05/05 in North
Charleston, SC.
The presenter was Indy Boteju. I don't have the exact
quote so I can only paraphrase, but it went something
like this:
Microsoft has run into some legal issues with the anti
spyware software similar to the issues with Windows Media
Player (I took it more to mean the IE/ Netscape
situation.... just my take on it), and would be
discontinued when the Beta test period expires. I then
approached him during a break to verify what he said, and
his reply to that query was the software would continue
to run but there would be no spyware definition updates
and thus would be pretty useless.

He seemed to know what he was talking about and I came
here looking for verification.

The seminar info is:

Event Code: 1032260330
Event Name: TS2 Channel Partner Briefing - Mobile
Computing, SBS SP1, Magellan and Media Center 2005

Location: Theater - Regal Charles Towne Square 18
Room:
City: North Charleston

Start Date: 04/05/2005
Start Time: 01:00 PM

End Date: 04/05/2005
End Time: 05:00 PM

Thanks!



-----Original Message-----
This is TS2:

http://www.technetbriefings.com/

but which, where, and what presenter, are the question,
of course.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Steve Dodson [MSFT]" <[email protected]>
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t.
com...
I have not heard of this, and is untrue. Where was this
stated at?

--
-steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
MCSE, CISSP
PSS Security

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message
I attended a TS2 seminar last week and the presenter
said
some legal issues were cropping up around MSAS and
MSAS
was to be discontinued. As of yet, I've seen no
mention
of it here and don't see how the presenter could be so
misinformed. So..... is there any truth to his TS2
revalation and are there any more details concerning
this
issue?




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