MS Scanner and Camera Wizard

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~ FreeSpirit ~

Can someone tell me how to get the MS Scanner and Camera Wizard to see my
camera's Flashstick when it's inserted into the flashstick drive after
installing a MS critical update?

This is from the MS camera.chm.lnk:

To link a program to a digital camera event
Right-click the camera, and then click Properties.

# We did that and it said "the properties for this camera are not
available." What now? All the software for this HP camera is installed
and updated. We never had a problem with it before. How do we get the MS
scanner and camera wizard to come up now when the flash stick is installed?

FS.........

On the Events tab, in Select an event, click the event for which you want to
initiate an action.
In Actions, click one of the following options:
Start this program: Select the program you want to start when the event
occurs.
Prompt for which program to run: Select to be prompted to choose a program
when the event occurs.
Take no action: When the selected event occurs, nothing will be started.
Save all pictures to this folder: All the pictures you select will be saved
to the folder you specify when the event occurs. To search for a specific
folder or drive, click Browse.
Click OK.
Notes

To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
Printers and Other Hardware, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
If the Events tab is not displayed, this feature is not available for the
selected device.
Some programs do not support linking to digital cameras. Linking is
available only with the programs that appear in Start this program.
You must have a camera installed and connected to your computer to view
properties.
 
S

Sharon F

Can someone tell me how to get the MS Scanner and Camera Wizard to see my
camera's Flashstick when it's inserted into the flashstick drive after
installing a MS critical update?

When the disk is inserted into a drive, it is read as a drive - not a
camera. Workaround: Check out Autoplay options in the drive's properties.
Perhaps one of those options would be workable for you.
 
F

~ FreeSpirit ~

Sharon F said:
When the disk is inserted into a drive, it is read as a drive - not a
camera. Workaround: Check out Autoplay options in the drive's properties.
Perhaps one of those options would be workable for you.

** Thanks Sharon. I did that (set to auto/pictures/copy pics to folder
using MS scanner and camera wizard - clicked apply and OK) and inserted the
flashcard - nothing happened. When I go back and check it it RESET ITSELF
to *&^%$#@ music!!!!! How do I get the wizard to work again??? This is
the flash drive. It doesn't play music!!!! It takes the flash card from my
camera and has worked for over a year without a problem. Why does it keep
resetting itself now to music? It will not stay set on "pictures." I
work with a lot of pics and am getting DESPERATE! Please.. there must be an
answer why it wont hold the scanner/camera setting.

Thanks

FS............
 
G

Guest

Why not just connect the camera to the pc with the USB cable that came with
it? The drivers should be on the CD that came with it. You usually don't need
to install the bogus Imaging software on the CD. Once recognized, the camera
will be viewed as a drive in Windows Explorer or My Computer. Or you will see
the camera in the list somewhere. From there you can copy the pictures to any
folder you want. I prefer not to use the AutoPlay option. Once you get the
hang of it, it's easy.
 
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Sharon F

** Thanks Sharon. I did that (set to auto/pictures/copy pics to folder
using MS scanner and camera wizard - clicked apply and OK) and inserted the
flashcard - nothing happened. When I go back and check it it RESET ITSELF
to *&^%$#@ music!!!!! How do I get the wizard to work again??? This is
the flash drive. It doesn't play music!!!! It takes the flash card from my
camera and has worked for over a year without a problem. Why does it keep
resetting itself now to music? It will not stay set on "pictures." I
work with a lot of pics and am getting DESPERATE! Please.. there must be an
answer why it wont hold the scanner/camera setting.

Did you know.... that you can just open the drive with Windows Explorer and
access the folders and files on it?

I never connect my camera and never use the scanner/camera wizard. I prefer
the options my graphics programs and scanner software to what XP offers.
For photos, I copy the images to the drive manually and then open them in
my graphics programs. What XP offers are very nice basic tools but since
they don't do everything that I need them to do, I just skip them.

You might want to check your card in Explorer to see if there is a music
file on the card. If someone else used it, they may have copied a music
file to it and its presence could explain why autoplay keeps identifying
music on the disk.

PS: Why do you always seem to get the oddball problems?

You might want to check out Kelly's site or Ramesh's to see what they have
available to fix the wizard:
Kelly: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp.htm
Ramesh: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/
 
F

~ FreeSpirit ~

Sharon F said:
Did you know.... that you can just open the drive with Windows Explorer
and
access the folders and files on it?

## Yes, I can and that takes several times the time it takes with the
wizard. Also, the wizard allows me to name and date the whole batch of
files per stick (65 pictures) - something I have to do one at a time, by
hand using WE.
I never connect my camera and never use the scanner/camera wizard. I
prefer
the options my graphics programs and scanner software to what XP offers.

## I have nothing even close to the wizard. My graphics programs have
nothing to do with downloading the pics from the flashcard.
For photos, I copy the images to the drive manually and then open them in
my graphics programs. What XP offers are very nice basic tools but since
they don't do everything that I need them to do, I just skip them.

## Thanks Sharon but I want to wizard to download from the sticks so I can
date and name them as the wizard puts them in the proper folders.
You might want to check your card in Explorer to see if there is a music
file on the card.

## How do I check it in Explorer? How can there be a music file on a
camera flash card? This camera doesn't play music. ??!?!?!?!!!??

If someone else used it, they may have copied a music
file to it and its presence could explain why autoplay keeps identifying
music on the disk.

## No one uses my camera and my camera doesn't not play music. I don't
understand how a camera can play music. This is a digital camera. You're
kidding me right?
PS: Why do you always seem to get the oddball problems?

## Id they weren't oddball I could handle them myself. :) I've had a PC
since 1996 - do you see any of my posts asking for help w/W95 and W98 &
W98SE on those MS NGs?
You might want to check out Kelly's site or Ramesh's to see what they have
available to fix the wizard:
Kelly: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp.htm
Ramesh: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/

## I'll check it out.

FS....
 
F

~ FreeSpirit ~

uggabugga said:
Why not just connect the camera to the pc with the USB cable that came
with
it?

## I explained that in the post above.

The drivers should be on the CD that came with it. You usually don't need
to install the bogus Imaging software on the CD. Once recognized, the
camera
will be viewed as a drive in Windows Explorer or My Computer.

## See my post above. The Wizard saves me a lot of time!!!!! It's supposed
to work and did since 8/03, almost 2 years. I looked up the sales date. As
component's fails in WXP are we to just look for some other way, even if
it's extremely inconvenient?

Or you will see
the camera in the list somewhere. From there you can copy the pictures to
any
folder you want. I prefer not to use the AutoPlay option. Once you get the
hang of it, it's easy.

## Sorry, no it isn't as it takes much, much longer doing it that way.
That's just like my opinion, Man........

## I would like the wizard to work as it's supposed to work. I work with
many pictures and doing each by hand is a pain in the ass.

FS.......
 
F

~ FreeSpirit ~

You might want to check out Kelly's site or Ramesh's to see what they have
available to fix the wizard:
Kelly: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp.htm

** He's got a lot of techie info there... what do I look for since nothing
was changed before the problem started? I don't see anything mentioned
about the camera and scanner wizard.

Also as an example of the MS sites his page sends you to: Many times I
can't follow the information because my version of W-XP-Home does *not* have
the item. I don't have *Performance & Maintenance* on/in Control Panel.
So the information is useless to me. Where and how would *Performance &
Maintenance* be found on my version of XP-Home-Sp2 ?

Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
2.Click Performance and Maintenance, and then click System.
3.Click the Hardware tab, and then click Device Manager.

** Nothing here about trouble shooting or fixing the MS wizard. Of all the
information I've read in book and magazines on XP I never saw anything
pertaining to this wizard.

FS.......
 
S

Sharon F

## No one uses my camera and my camera doesn't not play music. I don't
understand how a camera can play music. This is a digital camera. You're
kidding me right?

Flash cards are disks. They can hold any kinds of data. However, if the
disk is not used with any device other than your computer - then it should
not have music on it. No kids here now but when they were still teens - all
kinds of odd things happened with my "stuff" and no one could remember
doing it ;)
 
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Sharon F

## Yes, I can and that takes several times the time it takes with the
wizard. Also, the wizard allows me to name and date the whole batch of
files per stick (65 pictures) - something I have to do one at a time, by
hand using WE.

Try something like IrfanView that can do batch renames similar to the
camera wizard.

I realize that what you really want is the wizard working again. But other
than trying the obvious things like reinstalling camera, I don't know what
to suggest.

The camera has to communicate its presence to the wizard (this happens when
the camera's INF file is installed) and is successful if the camera uses
WIA drivers. Your camera did this fine before SP2 so reinstalling anything
camera related would be the first things to try.
 
F

~ FreeSpirit ~

Sharon F said:
Flash cards are disks. They can hold any kinds of data. However, if the
disk is not used with any device other than your computer - then it should
not have music on it.

$$ I assure you there is no music on my digital camera's flashcard.

No kids here now but when they were still teens - all
kinds of odd things happened with my "stuff" and no one could remember
doing it ;)

$$ LOL!!! I know what you mean. I raised a son. :) It's only me and
my husband these days, and he doesn't use this computer at all, for months
now. He has his own which he's planning to replace with a Dell soon. He
only uses this one if there's a problem with the network connections,
usually caused by an ZoneAlarm update.

FS........
 
F

~ FreeSpirit ~

Sharon F said:
Try something like IrfanView that can do batch renames similar to the
camera wizard.

$$ My husband uses that but it has no wizard and is little better than
using WE. With the wizard I can unload pics in minutes and have them ready
to work on. Without the wizard it's a *&^%$#@ all evening job.
I realize that what you really want is the wizard working again. But other
than trying the obvious things like reinstalling camera, I don't know what
to suggest.

$$ Add & Remove All Programs seems to have a problem as well since it
doesn't allow me to uninstall the camera. I just reinstalled the software
and looked for an update - however, it's not the cameras drivers that run
the wizard.
The camera has to communicate its presence to the wizard (this happens
when
the camera's INF file is installed)

$$ Which it is for the camera to have worked flawlessly all these months of
heavy usage.

and is successful if the camera uses
WIA drivers. Your camera did this fine before SP2 so reinstalling anything
camera related would be the first things to try.

$$ The problem started after a critical update before I installed SP2.
But I don't know which update since I didn't work with pictures for those 2
weeks. I'm afraid to turn on my scanner to find another hopeless problem.
I don't believe using the system-restore would work since it only worked
ONCE on this PC, and the next time we had to do a complete reinstall of
everything. (We'd get an error that System-Restore didn't successfully
restore the system. Yes it's turned on even though it seems pretty useless.)
It was several days before all my software was reinstalled and working as
usual...... I feel a super migraine coming on.

Is there any way I can get the other setting to STAY since installing SP2?
Those endless po-ups telling me updates and fire wall are turned off is
driving me batty! I shouldn't have to turn them on every morning or after
every re-boot.

FS.......
 
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Sharon F

Is there any way I can get the other setting to STAY since installing SP2?
Those endless po-ups telling me updates and fire wall are turned off is
driving me batty! I shouldn't have to turn them on every morning or after
every re-boot.

Well, given the history of trouble with the camera and if it gets to this
point... Reinstall Windows and SP2. Do not install the camera and its
"stuff" until AFTER SP2 is installed and running. I *do* hope that you find
a different solution before having to go that route though.

Have you checked at the camera's website for sp2 related updates or sp2
documentation yet?
 
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Sharon F

Well, given the history of trouble with the camera and if it gets to this
point... Reinstall Windows and SP2. Do not install the camera and its
"stuff" until AFTER SP2 is installed and running. I *do* hope that you find
a different solution before having to go that route though.

Have you checked at the camera's website for sp2 related updates or sp2
documentation yet?

Would also check with them for an uninstall tool for their software that is
currently "stuck" and not uninstalling.

References illustrating the interdependency of camera drivers and ID to the
wizard:

Plug and Play Devices Do Not Appear in the Add Scanner and Camera Wizard
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;293457

Some Programs May Not Work with a Scanner or a Camera When You Upgrade to
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;300462
 
F

~ FreeSpirit ~

Well, given the history of trouble with the camera and if it gets to this
point... Reinstall Windows and SP2.

## The cameras history was 23 months of working flawlessly with the MS
wizard. The trouble started after a few critical updates but I don't know
which ones. Wont reinstalling windows mess up all my other programs?

Do not install the camera and its
"stuff" until AFTER SP2 is installed and running. I *do* hope that you
find
a different solution before having to go that route though.

## So do I as the wizard saves me so much time you wouldn't believe
it.......
Have you checked at the camera's website for sp2 related updates or sp2
documentation yet?

## Yes, and didn't see any there - the problem with the scanner and camera
wizard started BEFORE I installed SP2.

FS ......
 
F

~ FreeSpirit ~

## Yes and saw no mention of SP2/cameras - besides the problem with the
wizard started BEFORE I installed SP2.
Would also check with them for an uninstall tool for their software that
is
currently "stuck" and not uninstalling.

## There is nothing on the HP website about uninstallers for their cameras
if Add/Remove programs can't remove them.
References illustrating the interdependency of camera drivers and ID to
the
wizard:

Plug and Play Devices Do Not Appear in the Add Scanner and Camera Wizard
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;293457

Plug and Play Devices Do Not Appear in the Add Scanner and Camera Wizard
View products that this article applies to.
Article ID:293457
Last Review:October 18, 2001
Revision:1.0

This article was previously published under Q293457
SUMMARY
If you use the Add Scanner and Camera Wizard to determine whether Windows XP
has a driver for a Plug and Play scanner or camera, no devices are listed.
Only non-Plug and Play devices are listed in the Scanner and Camera Wizard.
MORE INFORMATION
The Plug and Play device information is stored in .inf files, and these
drivers are installed automatically when Plug and Play detects them. If you
do not see your device in the list, check with the manufacturer for the
availability of a WIA driver.

## I don't see what this has to do with it since it worked for 23 months
without a problem. The wizard came up and asked what do with the pictures -
it didn't ask about adding a camera or scanner.
Some Programs May Not Work with a Scanner or a Camera When You Upgrade to
Windows XP

## This PC has always had XP-Home on it.

## HP only had hardware drivers to install but I don't understand how this
will make a difference - and it can screw up my expensive camera (making it
unworkable) if I do it wrong. There is no guarantee it will bring the
wizard up again either. These MS critical updates cause more problems and
waste more of our time than if some scum-ware invaded our PCs......

FS.....
 
G

Guest

Hi Sharon F & Freespirit. I have same prob with adding my digi cam, Sony
DSC W7. No probs loading onto 98 and 2000PRO.
It matters not how I go about instal/adding, as soon as I plug in the cam
the screen freezes and so does the cursor. The disc will download OK though
but doing that first makes no diff.
I have posted in Digital Cameras in WinXP General.
There is quite a lot there re cameras etc.
Watch that space as well, Freespirit. May get another angle.
Good luck
Antioch
'You cant educate pork'
 
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Sharon F

## I don't see what this has to do with it since it worked for 23 months
without a problem. The wizard came up and asked what do with the pictures -
it didn't ask about adding a camera or scanner.

If you don't see it, sorry. I've run out of ways of trying to explain it.
 
S

Sharon F

Hi Sharon F & Freespirit. I have same prob with adding my digi cam, Sony
DSC W7. No probs loading onto 98 and 2000PRO.
It matters not how I go about instal/adding, as soon as I plug in the cam
the screen freezes and so does the cursor. The disc will download OK though
but doing that first makes no diff.
I have posted in Digital Cameras in WinXP General.
There is quite a lot there re cameras etc.
Watch that space as well, Freespirit. May get another angle.
Good luck
Antioch
'You cant educate pork'
I hope there's more insight there and possibly a solution for Freespirit.
Once the camera/scanner and the wizard stop talking to each other there is
not much a user can do to fix it. These fixes, if they're going to be
available at all, usually come from the hardware manufacturers and those
that write the device drivers.
 
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Sharon F

## The cameras history was 23 months of working flawlessly with the MS
wizard. The trouble started after a few critical updates but I don't know
which ones. Wont reinstalling windows mess up all my other programs?

Yes, reinstalling would mess up your other programs. They would have to all
be reinstalled again. This route is a lot of work and there are no
guarantees that the camera/wizard combo would work when you were done.

You know that this particular camera/wizard combo breaks if it's installed
at SP1 level and then updated to SP2. You don't know how the camera and the
wizard will behave if it's not added until after XP has been updated to SP2
level. It's a lot of work to go through. Great rewards if the camera/wizard
work when you're done. *But* will "stink" if it ends up that it changes
nothing.
 

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