MS-DOS Start-up DVD-RW Possible?

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Alfred Kaufmann

A couple of days ago I had to open up my case an install a floppy
drive to create an MS-DOS startup disc that I needed to flash a bios.
I had tried unsuccessfully to create a bootable USB drive. Right
now I am formatting a DVD-RW and I have to wonder why I cannot tell it
to create an MS-DOS start-up DVD?

Al
 
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the wharf rat

now I am formatting a DVD-RW and I have to wonder why I cannot tell it
to create an MS-DOS start-up DVD?

Well, you can. Google "el torito".


'Course, it's easier in linux. FYI.

lol :)
 
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Mick Murphy

I used Nero 6.6(in an XP machine) to make a MS-DOS CD.

I had already made it on a floppy, and the trick is how you copy it to CD.
When you want to add with Nero, copy the whole of the floppy drive,
including what is on the floppy(MS-DOS).
I hope you get my drift!

It works!
 
M

Mrs. Putzke

Mick Murphy said:
I used Nero 6.6(in an XP machine) to make a MS-DOS CD.

I had already made it on a floppy, and the trick is how you copy it to CD.
When you want to add with Nero, copy the whole of the floppy drive,
including what is on the floppy(MS-DOS).
I hope you get my drift!

Hey, you're the guy who loves COCKHEAD!!!! Just FYI
 
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SG

Alfred,

Unless your systems Motherboard is pretty old there should be a Windows
Flash version for it. What board do you have?
 
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Gary Mount

Newer motherboards can flash from a usb flash drive straight from the bios
menu. No need to boot up from any device at all, just boot into the bios.
You need third party tools to create a bootable CD or DVD.
 
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Gary Mount

When CD drives first came out, they required drivers before they could be
seen. You had to boot from a floppy first and load the CD drive driver. That
may be one reason that the formatting of CD and DVD disks does not include
the option to make them bootable.
 
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Mick Murphy

Gary, I know why he wants a bootable MS-DOS CD.

We use it to isolate where the prob is on a laptop by 50%, which does NOT
have a readible available floppy like a desktop!

Nothing to do with flash bios!!!
Compris????
 
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Mick Murphy

Gary, I know what you are writing about.
I am 59yo, and been in I.T, for decades.

I am giving him the info to make a bootable MS-DOS CD, which is what he
WANTS from his FIRST AND ONLY POST

You have gone off on a different tangent, and you are NOT answering HIS
question.
 
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Alfred Kaufmann

Yes there is a windows flash version and even a flash program right in
the bios, however the manufacturer ASUS created a new bios to support
new processors and quite frankly created a lot of problems. In
addition to that, they wrote it so that you could not "downgrade" to
the prior bios. They call going back to a bios that works a
"downgrade". The only way to flash the old bios was to create a
bootable drive, either floppy, cd or usb and then use the option to
force the flash. Even then all that flash did was erase the eprom and
then hang, you hit reset to corrupt the bios and then it rebooted and
found the bios on your floppy and flashed it automatically. Very very
scary but my system works properly again.

Al
 
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Alfred Kaufmann

You are right that is how I would flash the bios, but when those
methods do not work you need the floppy. I did try some third party
tools to create a bootable usb drive unsuccessfully - the system would
find the USB drive, start it and get stuck leaving me with a blank
screen. I suspect it is part of the problem caused by this bios
because other bootable CDs that I had and worked before no longer
worked. They boot fine now with the older bios installed.

Why should I need third party tools to create a bootable CD or DVD? It
should be part of the format program.

Al
 
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Alfred Kaufmann

I remember those days. :) However the format program is not written
in stone, there is nothing to stop Microsoft from improving it.

Al
 
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Alfred Kaufmann

Wrong, I do not own a laptop. This is a system I built myself and I
decided I did not need a floppy drive. I was wrong. I now have a
floppy drive pushed back into the drive bay, totally hidden by the
front bezel and will be able to use it for emergencies like this.

Al
 

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