Moving Files, Directories, and Permissions

[DanielK]

Here's the basic setup. Current file server is not doing the job, so are
moving to a better system. What is the best way to move all the files,
directories, as well as permissions to the new server?

I thought possibily restore from tape, but that's 2 long. I heard something
that XCopy might do this. I also want to leave the files intact on the old
server so it can be used as a backup for the new box (until we are sure it's
working fine). Given the amount of files (about 200GB), obviously I don't
wanna go reset permissions.

BTW, this will be win2K -> win2K transfer.

Thanks for any information/suggestions you can provide

 

[Richard McCall [MSFT]]

It makes a big difference if it is a DC or if you used local group\user to
assign permissions?

 

[DanielK]

it's a dc.... Actually a BDC for the domain...

Basically what's going on is the amount of drives in the server are just 2
much and we are getting 30-45 second delay's even pulling a directory
listing off the box. We have narrowed it down to the RAID itself, so got a
new box... I just don't feel like re-creating all those darn permissions
all over again.

SOOOO, the current thinking is I will move the files, rename the box the
same as the old one, put all the IP's from the old server on the new server.
That way, all login scripts should not need to be touched.

So, the short of it is yes, it's a domain controller.

It makes a big difference if it is a DC or if you used local group\user to
assign permissions?

--
Richard McCall [MSFT]

"This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights."

Here's the basic setup. Current file server is not doing the job, so are
moving to a better system. What is the best way to move all the files,
directories, as well as permissions to the new server?

I thought possibily restore from tape, but that's 2 long. I heard something
that XCopy might do this. I also want to leave the files intact on the old
server so it can be used as a backup for the new box (until we are sure it's
working fine). Given the amount of files (about 200GB), obviously I don't
wanna go reset permissions.

BTW, this will be win2K -> win2K transfer.

Thanks for any information/suggestions you can provide

 

[Richard McCall [MSFT]]

With it being a DC it will make it easier and more difficult. Any use of
domain local group will not be resolved until the server is promoted to a DC
at which point it cannot be renamed(you can in w2k3) You can run xcopy and
scopy or robocopy to copy the data with permissions however being a command
prompt if it fails at some point you will not know where unless you are
scripting directories individually. The easiest would be to backup the data
and restore. There are other 3rd party data migration utilities that will do
the job better that the limited command line ones.

--
Richard McCall [MSFT]

"This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights."

it's a dc.... Actually a BDC for the domain...

Basically what's going on is the amount of drives in the server are just 2
much and we are getting 30-45 second delay's even pulling a directory
listing off the box. We have narrowed it down to the RAID itself, so got a
new box... I just don't feel like re-creating all those darn permissions
all over again.

SOOOO, the current thinking is I will move the files, rename the box the
same as the old one, put all the IP's from the old server on the new server.
That way, all login scripts should not need to be touched.

So, the short of it is yes, it's a domain controller.

It makes a big difference if it is a DC or if you used local group\user to
assign permissions?

--
Richard McCall [MSFT]

"This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights."

Here's the basic setup. Current file server is not doing the job, so are
moving to a better system. What is the best way to move all the files,
directories, as well as permissions to the new server?

I thought possibily restore from tape, but that's 2 long. I heard something
that XCopy might do this. I also want to leave the files intact on

the
old

server so it can be used as a backup for the new box (until we are

sure
it's

working fine). Given the amount of files (about 200GB), obviously I don't
wanna go reset permissions.

BTW, this will be win2K -> win2K transfer.

Thanks for any information/suggestions you can provide

 

[DanielK]

I didn't see any command line switches to move the permissions w/ Xcopy...
Do you have any idea what they might be? What about the 3rd party apps?
Any suggestions?

I'm not to worried about the copy failing. The two servers will be linked
via a crossover, and the old server will be pulled from the network.

Now, being that the current box is a DC, any suggestions on processes for
the move since I want the new server to be named the same? Disco the old
server from the domain, and then name the new box it's name, join it to the
domain, then do the move?

With it being a DC it will make it easier and more difficult. Any use of
domain local group will not be resolved until the server is promoted to a DC
at which point it cannot be renamed(you can in w2k3) You can run xcopy and
scopy or robocopy to copy the data with permissions however being a command
prompt if it fails at some point you will not know where unless you are
scripting directories individually. The easiest would be to backup the data
and restore. There are other 3rd party data migration utilities that will do
the job better that the limited command line ones.

--
Richard McCall [MSFT]

"This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights."

it's a dc.... Actually a BDC for the domain...

Basically what's going on is the amount of drives in the server are just 2
much and we are getting 30-45 second delay's even pulling a directory
listing off the box. We have narrowed it down to the RAID itself, so

got

a
new box... I just don't feel like re-creating all those darn permissions
all over again.

SOOOO, the current thinking is I will move the files, rename the box the
same as the old one, put all the IP's from the old server on the new server.
That way, all login scripts should not need to be touched.

So, the short of it is yes, it's a domain controller.

group\user

to

assign permissions?

--
Richard McCall [MSFT]

"This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights."
Here's the basic setup. Current file server is not doing the job,

so
are

moving to a better system. What is the best way to move all the files,
directories, as well as permissions to the new server?

I thought possibily restore from tape, but that's 2 long. I heard
something
that XCopy might do this. I also want to leave the files intact on the
old
server so it can be used as a backup for the new box (until we are sure
it's
working fine). Given the amount of files (about 200GB), obviously I don't
wanna go reset permissions.

BTW, this will be win2K -> win2K transfer.

Thanks for any information/suggestions you can provide