Moved HD and Windows won't see it at all...Help

[FayeC]

As I mentioned here before I was about to move my hd from my old
computer (Running windows XP Pro) to my new computer (running Windows
XP Pro).
The HD was a slave HD before so I didn't see any need to change the
jumpers.
I inserted the HD in the computer using the HD belt and noticed that
my master HD uses a different belt. It's red and thin.hadn't see it
before...
The new computer uses just a normal HD belt to the mobo.
The computer started normally using the master HD.
I went to the disk management tool but there's nothing there...
Do I need to scan for it or something of the kind?

Thanks in advance,

FayeC

 

[FayeC]

Forgot to add that the bios doesn't see it either.
Anything I can do to make it recognize the hd??
I am in so much trouble.I have things stored on that hd that I need to
retrieve asap and have formated the old computer (which is subject for
another thread)...
Any help is very appreciated,

FayeC

 

[Malke]

As I mentioned here before I was about to move my hd from my old
computer (Running windows XP Pro) to my new computer (running Windows
XP Pro).
The HD was a slave HD before so I didn't see any need to change the
jumpers.
I inserted the HD in the computer using the HD belt and noticed that
my master HD uses a different belt. It's red and thin.hadn't see it
before...
The new computer uses just a normal HD belt to the mobo.
The computer started normally using the master HD.
I went to the disk management tool but there's nothing there...
Do I need to scan for it or something of the kind?

I don't know what you "mentioned before" because if you posted before
you should have kept to the same thread. However, apparently your old
hard drive is IDE and your new drive is SATA. Unless you have a
SATA-to-IDE controller card/adapter, you cannot connect your old IDE
drive into the new computer. I have no idea how you "inserted it" but
whatever you did was wrong.

From your posts, it would seem that you are not used to working with
hardware. This is not meant to hurt your feelings, just a practical
observation. Take your old hard drive to a professional computer repair
shop and have them retrieve the data from your old hard drive. If you
like, they can install the old drive in the new computer for you with
the proper adapter/controller card.

Malke

 

[FayeC]

I know I did something wrong...that's why I am requesting help from
the pros here.
My first posting was before I moved the hd and just a question on if
there was something I shlould do prior to moving it.
Now I have moved it and the bios won't recognize the hd.
My mobo has 4 sata connectors (reading from mobo manual - ASUS P5LD2),
2 ITE EIDE connectors AND a primary IDE connector.
The DVDRW and the DVD drive are currently connected to the primary IDE
connector using the original HD cable that came with the mobo.
The master HD is connected to 1 of the master SATA connectors. That is
the original setting.
Now.I am trying to add my older IDE hd to the machine by connecting it
to the primary IDE connector.
I did install the ITE 8211 IDE driver as mentioned on the manual.
Now.my question is.should I revert the connection order? Should I
connect the slave hd to the primary IDE connector and the DVD drive to
the primary EIDE?
I hope this posting was more detailed than my first one and you can
give me some help on what to do .I am so lost.

Thank you in advance,

FayeC

 

[Tony]

As I mentioned here before I was about to move my hd from my old
computer (Running windows XP Pro) to my new computer (running Windows
XP Pro).
The HD was a slave HD before so I didn't see any need to change the
jumpers.
I inserted the HD in the computer using the HD belt and noticed that
my master HD uses a different belt. It's red and thin.hadn't see it
before...
The new computer uses just a normal HD belt to the mobo.
The computer started normally using the master HD.
I went to the disk management tool but there's nothing there...
Do I need to scan for it or something of the kind?

Thanks in advance,

FayeC

It depends on the motherboard. Some will accept both SATA and ATA hard
drives ans some will not. Is the old hard drive one the only device on the
cable (belt)? If so it should be set to master.

If the motherboard won't support both, you could get an external USB drive
case for it or find someone else with a PC who will extract the files for
you.

 

[Tony]

I don't know what you "mentioned before" because if you posted before
you should have kept to the same thread. However, apparently your old
hard drive is IDE and your new drive is SATA. Unless you have a
SATA-to-IDE controller card/adapter, you cannot connect your old IDE
drive into the new computer. I have no idea how you "inserted it" but
whatever you did was wrong.

<SNIP>

SATA motherboards still have IDE connectors - its where you plug in the
CD/DVD drives.

 

[Chris Priede]

Hi,

Now.I am trying to add my older IDE hd to the machine by
connecting it to the primary IDE connector.

Does this mean you have temporarily disconnected the CD and DVD drives?
That is the route I would suggest as well (at least we know that IDE
interface is enabled and working).

I think you said at some point that the hard drive in the old computer it
was in was set up as slave -- if so, you should move the jumpers on it.
Usually, master/single setting is the same, and would be what you want.
Note, however, that for Western Digital drives, the single drive jumper
setting is different (no jumper installed) and the master setting will fail
without a slave present. This should be shown on the drive label.

The stripe on one side of the IDE cable indicates pin 1 and should face
toward the power connector on hard drives.

 

[FayeC]

No...the mobo has 2 EIDE connectors and one primary IDE connector.

The slave is currently connected to the Primary EIDE connector and the
DVDRW and DVD drives are connected to the primary IDE connector.
If I have 1 SATA HD connected by the SATA cable to the mobo, do I need
to set the slave hooked up to the EIDE connector as master as well???
I tried to hook up the slave to the primary IDE connector and the
optical drives to the EIDE connector but that caused the DVD drive to
disappear from the BIOS and still the HD wasn't showing .is it due to
the jumpers being set as slave?
The master is a SATA WD2500JS Western Digital Caviar(250GB) and the
slave is an Ultra ATA ST3120026A Seagate Barracuda (120GB).
The jumper settings on the master (as per the online manual) is
correct (no jumper) and the same happens for the slave (no jumpers
sets it to slave). The problem is recognizing the slave (seagate). The
master WD is being recognized without problems. The whole size shows
and it is partitioned without issues.
The cable I am using to connect the slave to the mobo is an original
ASUS (my mobo is a P5LD2) as well and it says to use the grey
connector for a slave drive. I did..and to hook up the blue one to the
board.which I did as well...
I am scratching my head...

FayeC

 

[FayeC]

So even if there is another hard drive set as master (the SATA one) I
can set the IDE hd as master because it's the single hd on the
belt/cable?

 

[Anna]

I know I did something wrong...that's why I am requesting help from
the pros here.
My first posting was before I moved the hd and just a question on if
there was something I shlould do prior to moving it.
Now I have moved it and the bios won't recognize the hd.
My mobo has 4 sata connectors (reading from mobo manual - ASUS P5LD2),
2 ITE EIDE connectors AND a primary IDE connector.
The DVDRW and the DVD drive are currently connected to the primary IDE
connector using the original HD cable that came with the mobo.
The master HD is connected to 1 of the master SATA connectors. That is
the original setting.
Now.I am trying to add my older IDE hd to the machine by connecting it
to the primary IDE connector.
I did install the ITE 8211 IDE driver as mentioned on the manual.
Now.my question is.should I revert the connection order? Should I
connect the slave hd to the primary IDE connector and the DVD drive to
the primary EIDE?
I hope this posting was more detailed than my first one and you can
give me some help on what to do .I am so lost.

Thank you in advance,

FayeC

Faye:
If I correctly understand you, your "problem" HD is a PATA (*not* a SATA)
HD. I'm assuming you're planning to use that drive as a storage device,
i.e., a non-bootable HD. If my assumption is incorrect, please let me know
because if you are planning to use that HD as a boot device, the following
info is wrong.

Your booting drive is a SATA HD. I'm assuming you can boot to that drive and
it is functional without any problems.

To the best of my knowledge re that ASUS motherboard, you should connect
your PATA (non-bootable) drive to one of the two EIDE connectors (NOT THE
PRIMARY IDE connector - your two optical drives are correctly connected to
the Primary IDE connector, at least I *think* they are judging from your
comment re their connections. In this case the PATA drive should be
connected to the Primary EIDE connector since that PATA drive is the only
PATA HD you're connecting in the system. I assume there are no other devices
aside from the PATA HD that are, or will be, connected to the EIDE
connectors. Jumper that drive as Master and connect it to the end connector
of an 80-wire data (signal) cable (the wide ribbon cable).

Try the preceding and see if it works.
Anna

 

[Tony]

So even if there is another hard drive set as master (the SATA one) I
can set the IDE hd as master because it's the single hd on the
belt/cable?

That is correct. On each channel you have one master and a slave but you
can't have a slave without a master.

 

[FayeC]

That is correct. On each channel you have one master and a slave but you
can't have a slave without a master.

Tried that.......not working either....
It is now set as a master (jumper set according to the HD
specifications), connected to the EIDE connector.
Still won't recognize it.
BIOS sees the master SATA HD, the two optical drives no problem.
Any other tips>????

Thank you in advance for your time,

FayeC

 

[FayeC]

You got the situation totally right.
I did try what you told me to do but it still can't be recognized by
the bios.
The drive was functioning perfectly last night on my older computer.
What would be the chances that it fried? No signs of any frying
though...no noise or smell coming from the case and when I took it out
it felt warm but not hot.
I am losing my mind........

FayeC

 

[Tony]

Tried that.......not working either....
It is now set as a master (jumper set according to the HD
specifications), connected to the EIDE connector.
Still won't recognize it.
BIOS sees the master SATA HD, the two optical drives no problem.
Any other tips>????

Thank you in advance for your time,

FayeC

Have you tried taking the cable out of the DVD drive and plug into the PATA
drive.. Reset the jumper on the PATA hard drive to slave if the DVD was
slave. See if the bios now finds it.

 

[Anna]

You got the situation totally right.
I did try what you told me to do but it still can't be recognized by
the bios.
The drive was functioning perfectly last night on my older computer.
What would be the chances that it fried? No signs of any frying
though...no noise or smell coming from the case and when I took it out
it felt warm but not hot.
I am losing my mind........

FayeC

FayeC:
First of all, as frustrating as this all is, believe me when I tell you it's
nothing to lose your mind over...

In a previous posting you indicated the problem drive is a Seagate. It would
be a good idea to download Seagate's HD diagnostic utility to check out the
drive - http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/

I realize you've stated the drive is not recognized in the BIOS, but see if
the diagnostic check will yield anything pertinent.

I believe you also previously stated you configured that drive as a Slave
when you connected it to the EIDE connector. Did you, as I suggested above,
configure that drive as Master? And the data (signal) cable connections are
secure both on the motherboard's EIDE connector and the drive, right? You've
double-checked the connections, yes?
Anna

P.S.
I will be offline during the next week or so beginning tomorrow (Sat), so I
may not be able to respond to your posting(s). Hopefully, others perusing
this newsgroup will be able to help you. The problem is not, repeat not,
insurmountable. Good luck.

P.P.S.
In order for others to help you, you *must* give sufficient background
information about your problem and detail whatever actions you've taken to
solve the problem WHENEVER you post your comments/responses. ALWAYS include
sufficient info along these lines whenever you post your comments. Don't
think of this, or any other newsgroup, as some "chatline" between two or
three persons who follow the thread in some orderly & systematic fashion so
that you need not provide pertinent background info concerning your problem.
It's fine to summarize the situation; you need not include every word of
your previous postings or those of others who have responded. But provide
sufficient information so that ANYONE perusing this thread at ANY point has
enough background on the problem so that he or she might assist you.

 

[Andy]

Forgot to add that the bios doesn't see it either.

ASUS P5LD2 4-29

ITE8211F Controller [IDE Mode]
Allows you to enable or disable the onboard ITE® 8211F IDE controller.
Configuration options: [Disabled] [IDE Mode]

Do you have this set to IDE mode (Advanced tab in BIOS Setup)?