move pagefile.sys to another location

G

George Valkov

:
| Kerry
|
| George is posting to Vista and Windows XP newsgroups. I am not sure
| whether you have noticed this? I didn't at first.
|
| It is possible for Vista and Windows XP to share a pagefile in a
| dedicated pagefile partition. This obviously saves disk space. I think
| saving disk space is George's objective but he has not so far said this.

There are 2 physical disks x320 (298 GB). I don't care how much space it
consumes on the disk. I care how much pixels it takes in the list of items
for my primary workspace folder. I also care if typing
"p<tab>" in Command Prompt will stop on pagefile.sys, when I need something
else.

Why do I use the <root> of a disk for workspace? It is two clicks away:
1 My Computer
2 S:\

That's all. I'm just trying to reduce the list of unwanted items in the
workspace.

|
| --
| Regards.
|
| Gerry
| ~~~~
| FCA
| Stourport, England
| Enquire, plan and execute
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
| Kerry Brown wrote:
| > | >> How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another
| >> location. For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
| >> C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
| >> C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
| > I haven't tested this in Vista so make sure you have a backup before
| > trying this.
| >
| > The following KB article outlines how to setup multiple page files in
| > different directories. You could modify this procedure to use whatever
| > directory you want.
| >
| > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740
| >
| > That said I think you're crazy to use a system directory.
|
|
 
G

Gerry

George

The System Volume Information folder in Windows XP contains more than
just System Restore. By all means turn it off if you have a viable
alternative restore strategy. Just leave the remaining contents of the
folder as they are. They occupy negligible disk space.

System Restore in Vista is a totally different ball game and having
forgotten most of what I learnt about it I will not presume to offer
advice.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

George Valkov

:
| | > Kerry
| >
| > George is posting to Vista and Windows XP newsgroups. I am not sure
| > whether you have noticed this? I didn't at first.
| >
| > It is possible for Vista and Windows XP to share a pagefile in a
dedicated
| > pagefile partition. This obviously saves disk space. I think saving disk
| > space is George's objective but he has not so far said this.
| >
|
|
| While it may be possible to set up a shared page file with this procedure
I
| wouldn't want to be around when the crap hits the fan.

I have used shared files between two installations of Windows 2003 server. I
had no problems with this.

| I have no idea what
| George is trying to do or why. I saw the cross posting and the other
threads
| he's started. It's obvious he has some objective in mind but the road to
his
| objective is a minefield. That's why I suggested a backup :)

And Your backup offer hapened to be the sweetest piece of cake :) Thanks!


| It is far better to let Windows manage it's own system files. Altering the
| way Windows deals with these files rarely accomplishes anything good and
| often causes many unforeseen problems. Dual booting XP and Vista causes
| enough problems without any meddling with system files.

There should be no problems, if You design it properly from the start.
The first partition on the disk should be for XP or Windows 2003 server.
It is set "active" (bootable) and windows is installed to it.

The second partition is formated and make active from the working OS. Then
these files are copied to it from the boot partition.
boot.ini
NTDETECT.COM
ntldr

The system is restarted from the second partition, but starts XP or 2003
from the first. Then You start Vista or Windows 2008 setup and choose to
install to the second partition. Drive letters are retained. No conflicts so
far.


Good Luck, Kerry!

| --
| Kerry Brown
| Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
| http://www.vistahelp.ca
|
|
 
G

George Valkov

| George
|
| The System Volume Information folder in Windows XP contains more than
| just System Restore. By all means turn it off if you have a viable
| alternative restore strategy. Just leave the remaining contents of the
| folder as they are. They occupy negligible disk space.

It makes no sence to remove 2 files consuming 167 bytes on a 200 GB
partition. After all the system will recreate them in a few minutes. So the
System Volume Information folder will stay there. I am granting full access
to me only to prevent the "Access Denied" error when I click it by mistake
and Explores tries to open it.


| System Restore in Vista is a totally different ball game and having
| forgotten most of what I learnt about it I will not presume to offer
| advice.

Don't worry. I don't need help about System Restore. I don't have System
Restore installed on my operating systems.



|
| Hope this helps.
|
| Gerry
| ~~~~
| FCA
| Stourport, England
| Enquire, plan and execute
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
|
| George Valkov wrote:
| > "Gerry" wrote:
| >> George
| >>
| >> Which operating system is this post meant to be about? Windows XP or
| >> Vista?
| >
| > Both! That's why it is on both of the newsgroups.
| >
| >
| >> "Oh and about "System Volume Information"... I've granted my self
| >> "Full control", so I can do whatever I want with it."
| >>
| >> Leave the contents alone or you will soon have major problems. The
| >> way to manage System Restore does not involve tinkering with the
| >> contents of this folder.
| >
| > Don't wory. There is no System Restore on my computer. I have a
| > backup of my computer. I know what not to mess with.
| >
| >
| >> Hope this helps.
| >>
| >> Gerry
| >> ~~~~
| >> FCA
| >> Stourport, England
| >> Enquire, plan and execute
| >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>
| >>
| >> George Valkov wrote:
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> Hello Gordon! Thanks for stopping by. Here is a reason:
| >>>
| >>> dir /a /b s:\
| >>> $Recycle.Bin
| >>> ATI MMC
| >>> RECYCLER
| >>> System Volume Information
| >>> pagefile.sys
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> How does it feel with so much system items? There are 5. This is a
| >>> large volume, that I have assigned as a primary workspace for my
| >>> work. How would You feel If someone puts a lot of garbage in your
| >>> workspace? And You have to delete it every now and then!
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> Oh and about "System Volume Information"... I've granted my self
| >>> "Full control", so I can do whatever I want with it.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> George Valkov
|
|
 
G

George Valkov

| Kerry Brown wrote:
| >
| > It is far better to let Windows manage it's own system files.
| > Altering the way Windows deals with these files rarely accomplishes
| > anything good and often causes many unforeseen problems. Dual booting
| > XP and Vista causes enough problems without any meddling with system
| > files.
|
| Agreed. I only mentioned sharing a pagefile because it did work for me
| for some time. However, dual booting is a minefield. It seems a good
| idea but you can get into one hell of a tangle with the likes of file
| paths and ownership issues. Vista is nothing like as easy to manage as
| Windows XP. A lot of unpleasant surprises and not too many times when
| you say that's a great improvement.

True! By the way Windows 2008 server is also Vista like. Yester day I needed
to access a file in the build-in Administrator's folder. Since I am already
in the Administrators groups and it asked me for credentials. I said to my
self: 'Hey, it will use my "Administrators" label and see I have access to
that folder without changing anything'. Instead it made me the owner of the
folder. On the next login as Build-in Administrator nothing worked anymore.

The partition restore operation fixed all of the problems. ;-)

Caution should be taken, every time the system asks for credentials to let
You access files... After that it usually does stupid things like tampering
with the standing security.

The entire design of Vista... It's somehow great, but much more problematic
so the great things cannot be seen behind all of the problems. That's what
ATI are doing from a long time ago - great hardware and software that is
supposed to have great features, which however cannot be seen behing all of
the pain their software and drivers cause.


| --
| Regards.
|
| Gerry
| ~~~~
| FCA
| Stourport, England
| Enquire, plan and execute
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
|
 
G

George Valkov

| Kerry Brown wrote:
| > | >> Kerry
| >>
| >> George is posting to Vista and Windows XP newsgroups. I am not sure
| >> whether you have noticed this? I didn't at first.
| >>
| >> It is possible for Vista and Windows XP to share a pagefile in a
| >> dedicated pagefile partition. This obviously saves disk space. I think
| >> saving disk space is George's objective but he has not so far said
this.
| >>
| >
| >
| > While it may be possible to set up a shared page file with this
| > procedure I wouldn't want to be around when the crap hits the fan. I
| > have no idea what George is trying to do or why. I saw the cross posting
| > and the other threads he's started. It's obvious he has some objective
| > in mind but the road to his objective is a minefield. That's why I
| > suggested a backup :)
| >
| > It is far better to let Windows manage it's own system files. Altering
| > the way Windows deals with these files rarely accomplishes anything good
| > and often causes many unforeseen problems. Dual booting XP and Vista
| > causes enough problems without any meddling with system files.
| >
|
|
| Agreed, I was going to say simply "Don't do it" because any problem is
| unlikely to show up right away, rather some distance down the road and
| then be much worse on a production machine.

Relax Charlie!
Have You not heard about backups?
For whatever that may go wrong, there's the universal solution called "a
backup plan". That's by design.


George Valkov
 
C

Charlie Tame

George said:
| Kerry Brown wrote:
| > | >> Kerry
| >>
| >> George is posting to Vista and Windows XP newsgroups. I am not sure
| >> whether you have noticed this? I didn't at first.
| >>
| >> It is possible for Vista and Windows XP to share a pagefile in a
| >> dedicated pagefile partition. This obviously saves disk space. I think
| >> saving disk space is George's objective but he has not so far said
this.
| >>
| >
| >
| > While it may be possible to set up a shared page file with this
| > procedure I wouldn't want to be around when the crap hits the fan. I
| > have no idea what George is trying to do or why. I saw the cross posting
| > and the other threads he's started. It's obvious he has some objective
| > in mind but the road to his objective is a minefield. That's why I
| > suggested a backup :)
| >
| > It is far better to let Windows manage it's own system files. Altering
| > the way Windows deals with these files rarely accomplishes anything good
| > and often causes many unforeseen problems. Dual booting XP and Vista
| > causes enough problems without any meddling with system files.
| >
|
|
| Agreed, I was going to say simply "Don't do it" because any problem is
| unlikely to show up right away, rather some distance down the road and
| then be much worse on a production machine.

Relax Charlie!
Have You not heard about backups?
For whatever that may go wrong, there's the universal solution called "a
backup plan". That's by design.


George Valkov


Well no problem George but bear in mind some people who visit really
don't have much experience and ask questions based on something they've
read that "Seems like a good idea at the time" but has hidden side
effects. :) Was not clear what you aere asking for in the beginning... :)
 
G

George Valkov

| George Valkov wrote:
| > | > | Kerry Brown wrote:
| > | > | > | >> Kerry
| > | >>
| > | >> George is posting to Vista and Windows XP newsgroups. I am not sure
| > | >> whether you have noticed this? I didn't at first.
| > | >>
| > | >> It is possible for Vista and Windows XP to share a pagefile in a
| > | >> dedicated pagefile partition. This obviously saves disk space. I
think
| > | >> saving disk space is George's objective but he has not so far said
| > this.
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > While it may be possible to set up a shared page file with this
| > | > procedure I wouldn't want to be around when the crap hits the fan. I
| > | > have no idea what George is trying to do or why. I saw the cross
posting
| > | > and the other threads he's started. It's obvious he has some
objective
| > | > in mind but the road to his objective is a minefield. That's why I
| > | > suggested a backup :)
| > | >
| > | > It is far better to let Windows manage it's own system files.
Altering
| > | > the way Windows deals with these files rarely accomplishes anything
good
| > | > and often causes many unforeseen problems. Dual booting XP and Vista
| > | > causes enough problems without any meddling with system files.
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > | Agreed, I was going to say simply "Don't do it" because any problem is
| > | unlikely to show up right away, rather some distance down the road and
| > | then be much worse on a production machine.
| >
| > Relax Charlie!
| > Have You not heard about backups?
| > For whatever that may go wrong, there's the universal solution called "a
| > backup plan". That's by design.
| >
| >
| > George Valkov
|
|
| Well no problem George but bear in mind some people who visit really
| don't have much experience and ask questions based on something they've
| read that "Seems like a good idea at the time" but has hidden side
| effects. :) Was not clear what you aere asking for in the beginning... :)

Yes, I understand that. Vista and XP news groups are for the average users.
So people here explain like for the average user to understand it. On the
other hand there are a lot of people visiting these groups and a good chance
to find an answer.

Thanks for Your time!


George Valkov


PS:
Kerry Brown told me how to move the pagefile.sys to custom location.

I guess I'll go to
microsoft.public.windows.server.general
and ask the professionals "how to move \$RECYCLE.BIN to a sub-folder or
merge it with \RECYCLER".
 
G

George Valkov

| George Valkov wrote:
| > | > | | > | > | > | >> How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another
| > location.
| > | >> For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
| > | >> C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
| > | >> C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Why on earth would you want to put the page file within either your
| > | > Windows folder or the restore folder?
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > | Sorry it's not the system restore folder - but I think you'll find
it's
| > | inaccessible, anyway.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| >
| > Hello Gordon! Thanks for stopping by. Here is a reason:
| >
| > dir /a /b s:\
| > $Recycle.Bin
| > ATI MMC
| > RECYCLER
| > System Volume Information
| > pagefile.sys
| >
| >
| >
| > How does it feel with so much system items? There are 5. This is a large
| > volume, that I have assigned as a primary workspace for my work. How
would
| > You feel If someone puts a lot of garbage in your workspace? And You
have to
| > delete it every now and then!
| >
| >
| > Oh and about "System Volume Information"... I've granted my self "Full
| > control", so I can do whatever I want with it.
| >
| >
| > George Valkov
|
| Are you running on XP or on Vista? Or are you asking for both operating
| systems?

I am asking about both. Just imagine they are installed on the same computer
and each has it's own volume.

| On the DIR command don't you mean dir /a:s /b?

Ha ha ha ha!
No John, You got me wrong.

It is "S:\" and this is not the system volume.
dir /a -- means "all files and folders"
includding hiden, system, everything.

It is
dir /a /b s:\

| As for "If someone puts a lot of garbage in your workspace..." there is
| an ATI file that probably should not be there or that could probably be
| removed, as for the remainder there is a grand total of 4 system files,
| with all due respect I find your complaint to be a bit overboard!

[S:\ATI MMC\Administrator]
is the temporary folder for video captures.
I access the "ATI MMC" folder frequently and I have made it an usefull part
from my workspace. It will stay there.



| Also, as far as Windows operating systems are concerned it has always
| been, and still is, an extremely bad idea to use the root of the System
| drive for your workspace!

A temporary workspace...

|
| John
 
J

John John

George said:
It is "S:\" and this is not the system volume.
[S:\ATI MMC\Administrator]

And you didn't think it relevant to include this information in your
original post? It would have saved an awful lot of confusion and waste
of time from all the respondents if you would have posted these details
in your initial post! Instead of making your intentions clear and known
right from the start we've had to pull it from you in bits and pieces!

You can remove any and all files on non system or non boot volumes, it
isn't difficult at all to do. The information you seek is common
knowledge and is easily found in numerous places on the internet.

John
 
G

George Valkov

| George Valkov wrote:
|
| > It is "S:\" and this is not the system volume.
| > [S:\ATI MMC\Administrator]
|
| And you didn't think it relevant to include this information in your
| original post? It would have saved an awful lot of confusion and waste
| of time from all the respondents if you would have posted these details
| in your initial post! Instead of making your intentions clear and known
| right from the start we've had to pull it from you in bits and pieces!

Thanks for that suggestion! I'll keep that in mind for the future.

|
| You can remove any and all files on non system or non boot volumes, it
| isn't difficult at all to do. The information you seek is common
| knowledge and is easily found in numerous places on the internet.

Shure I can delete these items, but windows will recreate them. What I want
is to configure windows to recreate the items in a custom sub-folder (not in
the root of the partition)... Or at least to select another name for the
"$RECYCLE.BIN" folder - it gets first in the list (details view).



|
| John
 
G

Gerry

George

Your strategy is flawed as regards Windows XP. Two places for a
pagefile. Either in the system volume or in a dedicated partition at the
beginning of the second drive. Mixing a pagefile with working data files
will cause rapid file fragmentation, unless you can create and retain a
contiguous pagefile. That can be extremely difficult to achieve with a
volume that is already populated.

Knowing how to relocate the pagefile is no big deal as another user has
pointed out to you.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

George Valkov

| George
|
| Your strategy is flawed as regards Windows XP. Two places for a
| pagefile. Either in the system volume or in a dedicated partition at the
| beginning of the second drive.

Quote:
"If you have a second physical drive, it is in principle better to put the
file there, because it is then less likely that the heads will have moved
away from it"

DISK0\S:\ is another physical disk, so it should be fine there. On the other
hand moving it to
DISK0\P:\ would probably be beter (this is where the programs are
installed). Reads are very often; Changes are very rare. Thank You for
making me think on this!

DISK0\\S:\ - MAINBOARD IDE\primary\master [72 MB/s]
DISK1\\C:\WINDOWS - PCI IDE controller\primary\master [50 MB/s]

Perhaps I should move the system disk to MAINBOARD IDE\secondary\master
this will speed access to the system disk, but then I will have to make the
DVD burner a slave device (it cannot be attached to the PCI controller).

| Mixing a pagefile with working data files
| will cause rapid file fragmentation, unless you can create and retain a
| contiguous pagefile. That can be extremely difficult to achieve with a
| volume that is already populated.

The page file never has to expand. The computer has 1 GB RAM, which is
rarely exeeded. Anyway I have added 1 GB page file on the system partition
and another 1 GB on another physical disk - S:. I have a plenty of disk
space.


| Knowing how to relocate the pagefile is no big deal as another user has
| pointed out to you.

Yes, thanks, defrag.exe is also easy to use.


George Valkov



| --
|
|
|
| Hope this helps.
|
| Gerry
| ~~~~
| FCA
| Stourport, England
| Enquire, plan and execute
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
| George Valkov wrote:
| > | >> George
| >>
| >> Why would you put the pagefile in the System Volume Information
| >> folder?
| >
| >
| > Hello Gerry!
| > To put it away from my sight.
| >
| >> Why does the path concern you?
| >
| >
| > S:\ is the largest volume on my computer. It is on a physical disk
| > other than the system. It is a perfect place for a page file. On the
| > other hand, the S:\<root> is designed to be my prymary workspace
| > folder, so the less items to distract me, the better. Show all files
| > is enabled for better security.
| >
| > I also have a page file on the system volume.
| >
| >
| >> The Article in this link contains a very detailed explanation of
| >> Virtual Memory:
| >> http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm
| >
| > I just finished reading it. I learned a lot!
| >
| >
| >> On most computers the Windows Operating System is placed on the C
| >> drive along with the pagefile. You can however, place the page file
| >> on another drive, or if you wish have a page file on all or some
| >> other hard drives or partitions of a drive. To ascertain where your
| >> pagefile is located select right click on your My Computer icon on
| >> your Desktop and select Properties, Advanced, Performance Settings,
| >> Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change. The first partition on a second
| >> drive is a favoured location. Howver, you need to keep a minimum 50
| >> mb partition on C. A dedicated pagefile partition without other
| >> folders and files intermingled is the best solution.
| >>
| >> Separate pagefiles are a controversial topic so be prepared for
| >> others to chip in with differing views.
| >
| > 1 GB RAM is never enough these days. Windows is hungry for more and
| > more after every service pack!
| >
| >
| >> Hope this helps.
| >
| > Yes!
| > You replay is suited better for an average user, but I found new
| > knowledge too!
| > The link lead me to a very good topic!
| >
| > Thank You Gery!
| >
| > PS:
| > Oh, by the way Kerry Brown showed me how to move the page file to
| > custom path:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740
| >
| >
| >>
| >> Gerry
| >> ~~~~
| >> FCA
| >> Stourport, England
| >> Enquire, plan and execute
| >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >> George Valkov wrote:
| >>> How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another
| >>> location. For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
| >>> C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
| >>> C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
|
|
 
G

Gerry

George

Don Quixote would be an more appropriate name for you than George!

What setting are you using for each pagefile? Is each pagefile presently
contiguous? Whether it is will be apparent if you look at the graphical
representation in Disk Defragmenter and the Report indicates the number
of how many fragments the pagefile has. If it is one it is contiguous.

http://aumha.org/a/parts.htm

"The computer has 1 GB RAM, which is rarely exeeded." Perhaps not now
but watch this space. Try using an undo feature when editing
photographic images! Programmes progressively being designed to use more
RAM For Vista 1 gb is minimal.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gerry said:
George

Your strategy is flawed as regards Windows XP. Two places for a
pagefile. Either in the system volume or in a dedicated partition at
the beginning of the second drive.

Quote:
"If you have a second physical drive, it is in principle better to
put the file there, because it is then less likely that the heads
will have moved away from it"

DISK0\S:\ is another physical disk, so it should be fine there. On
the other hand moving it to
DISK0\P:\ would probably be beter (this is where the programs are
installed). Reads are very often; Changes are very rare. Thank You for
making me think on this!

DISK0\\S:\ - MAINBOARD IDE\primary\master [72 MB/s]
DISK1\\C:\WINDOWS - PCI IDE controller\primary\master [50 MB/s]

Perhaps I should move the system disk to MAINBOARD
IDE\secondary\master this will speed access to the system disk, but
then I will have to make the DVD burner a slave device (it cannot be
attached to the PCI controller).
Mixing a pagefile with working data files
will cause rapid file fragmentation, unless you can create and
retain a contiguous pagefile. That can be extremely difficult to
achieve with a volume that is already populated.

The page file never has to expand. The computer has 1 GB RAM, which is
rarely exeeded. Anyway I have added 1 GB page file on the system
partition and another 1 GB on another physical disk - S:. I have a
plenty of disk space.

Knowing how to relocate the pagefile is no big deal as another user
has pointed out to you.

Yes, thanks, defrag.exe is also easy to use.


George Valkov


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
L

Lil' Dave

George Valkov said:
:
| George
|
| Which operating system is this post meant to be about? Windows XP or
| Vista?

Both! That's why it is on both of the newsgroups.

You lost my interest here...

This NOT a Vista/XP newsgroup.

--
Dave
Profound is we're here due to a chance arrangement
of chemicals in the ocean billions of years ago.
More profound is we made it to the top of the food
chain per our reasoning abilities.
Most profound is the denial of why we may
be on the way out.
 
G

George Valkov

Thank You, Gerry!

There is a command line tool:
linkd.exe
I think it is in the Windows 2003 resource kit. If You do arrange you
computer, like I read on the link you just sent to me, then you will love it
for shure.

George Valkov



:
| George
|
| Don Quixote would be an more appropriate name for you than George!
|
| What setting are you using for each pagefile? Is each pagefile presently
| contiguous? Whether it is will be apparent if you look at the graphical
| representation in Disk Defragmenter and the Report indicates the number
| of how many fragments the pagefile has. If it is one it is contiguous.
|
| http://aumha.org/a/parts.htm
|
| "The computer has 1 GB RAM, which is rarely exeeded." Perhaps not now
| but watch this space. Try using an undo feature when editing
| photographic images! Programmes progressively being designed to use more
| RAM For Vista 1 gb is minimal.
|
| --
|
|
|
| Hope this helps.
|
| Gerry
| ~~~~
| FCA
| Stourport, England
| Enquire, plan and execute
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
| Valkov wrote:
| > | >> George
| >>
| >> Your strategy is flawed as regards Windows XP. Two places for a
| >> pagefile. Either in the system volume or in a dedicated partition at
| >> the beginning of the second drive.
| >
| > Quote:
| > "If you have a second physical drive, it is in principle better to
| > put the file there, because it is then less likely that the heads
| > will have moved away from it"
| >
| > DISK0\S:\ is another physical disk, so it should be fine there. On
| > the other hand moving it to
| > DISK0\P:\ would probably be beter (this is where the programs are
| > installed). Reads are very often; Changes are very rare. Thank You for
| > making me think on this!
| >
| > DISK0\\S:\ - MAINBOARD IDE\primary\master [72 MB/s]
| > DISK1\\C:\WINDOWS - PCI IDE controller\primary\master [50 MB/s]
| >
| > Perhaps I should move the system disk to MAINBOARD
| > IDE\secondary\master this will speed access to the system disk, but
| > then I will have to make the DVD burner a slave device (it cannot be
| > attached to the PCI controller).
| >
| >> Mixing a pagefile with working data files
| >> will cause rapid file fragmentation, unless you can create and
| >> retain a contiguous pagefile. That can be extremely difficult to
| >> achieve with a volume that is already populated.
| >
| > The page file never has to expand. The computer has 1 GB RAM, which is
| > rarely exeeded. Anyway I have added 1 GB page file on the system
| > partition and another 1 GB on another physical disk - S:. I have a
| > plenty of disk space.
| >
| >
| >> Knowing how to relocate the pagefile is no big deal as another user
| >> has pointed out to you.
| >
| > Yes, thanks, defrag.exe is also easy to use.
| >
| >
| > George Valkov
| >
| >
| >
| >> --
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> Hope this helps.
| >>
| >> Gerry
| >> ~~~~
| >> FCA
| >> Stourport, England
| >> Enquire, plan and execute
| >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>
| >>
| >> George Valkov wrote:
| >>> | >>>> George
| >>>>
| >>>> Why would you put the pagefile in the System Volume Information
| >>>> folder?
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> Hello Gerry!
| >>> To put it away from my sight.
| >>>
| >>>> Why does the path concern you?
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> S:\ is the largest volume on my computer. It is on a physical disk
| >>> other than the system. It is a perfect place for a page file. On the
| >>> other hand, the S:\<root> is designed to be my prymary workspace
| >>> folder, so the less items to distract me, the better. Show all files
| >>> is enabled for better security.
| >>>
| >>> I also have a page file on the system volume.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>> The Article in this link contains a very detailed explanation of
| >>>> Virtual Memory:
| >>>> http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm
| >>>
| >>> I just finished reading it. I learned a lot!
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>> On most computers the Windows Operating System is placed on the C
| >>>> drive along with the pagefile. You can however, place the page file
| >>>> on another drive, or if you wish have a page file on all or some
| >>>> other hard drives or partitions of a drive. To ascertain where
| >>>> your pagefile is located select right click on your My Computer
| >>>> icon on your Desktop and select Properties, Advanced, Performance
| >>>> Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change. The first partition on
| >>>> a second drive is a favoured location. Howver, you need to keep a
| >>>> minimum 50 mb partition on C. A dedicated pagefile partition
| >>>> without other folders and files intermingled is the best solution.
| >>>>
| >>>> Separate pagefiles are a controversial topic so be prepared for
| >>>> others to chip in with differing views.
| >>>
| >>> 1 GB RAM is never enough these days. Windows is hungry for more and
| >>> more after every service pack!
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>> Hope this helps.
| >>>
| >>> Yes!
| >>> You replay is suited better for an average user, but I found new
| >>> knowledge too!
| >>> The link lead me to a very good topic!
| >>>
| >>> Thank You Gery!
| >>>
| >>> PS:
| >>> Oh, by the way Kerry Brown showed me how to move the page file to
| >>> custom path:
| >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>>
| >>>> Gerry
| >>>> ~~~~
| >>>> FCA
| >>>> Stourport, England
| >>>> Enquire, plan and execute
| >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>>> George Valkov wrote:
| >>>>> How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another
| >>>>> location. For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
| >>>>> C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
| >>>>> C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
|
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